Base Tune
 

I should be getting my adaptronic today. (picking up from post office) and depending on how much time i have, i might begin putting it in.

I saw that stein has a base tune that is supposed to be very good.. does someone have this uploaded somewhere? if someone can email it to me at Serper3@sbcglobal.net, or post it somehow, it would be awesome!
i am going to be running the stock injectors for now and it would be nice to get the tune with the ait already calibrated and the idle set etc.
Thanks!
Henry

Travis has mine and built up a little package of files and documents to send out via email to all owners. I believe he posted it as well. I'm out of state and don't have it handy.

Thanks,
I appreciate it. anyone else recieve the files and wants to forward them to me please? thanks guys

Adaptronic Miata Plug and Play Standalone e420c

Hey, the ECU Install Zip link is it! Enjoy!

cool! so the map in that file is the recent one that stein was running? how much boost boost was that for/how much is safe on stock injectors on 91 piss octane gas?

unfortunately i am having issues currently with my lc1. everyone says its always ground problems but i am not sure..
my lc1 calibrates everytime the ignition goes on..

I believe max you can run on stockers is 8psi and that is already pushing it. If you need the LATEST map I can email it to you, but the one travis provides is good enough to start with. Make sure you dial up the dwell to 5k I think, since stein has his set at like 2k. Also the idle valve settings might need some adjusting to get it to idle right.

MAKE SURE your lc1 is up and running right before you attempt to run the car though. Without it you will have a hard time.

if you could send me the most recent most "auto tuned" map that would be great. that way, i also wont have to do the ait calibration right?

done

Sweet!

...but i didnt get it yet lol..
you sent it to serper3@sbcglobal.net?
btw do u ever come down to the south bay?

I sent it to the correct address, i just checked.

and no I dont really go down there but if you are ever in the area let me know:)

thanks i just got it. for sure, and you too. it seems like i have been cursed with ems and this wideband etc lol...
when the lc1 is connected to the adaptronic serially, is the terminator plug supposed to be plugged in? or no...

I was running 8 psi on 91 octane on stock injectors. Zero issues with knock.

Just installed Deatschwerks 600's so more boost in my near future. Didn't have time to start it before I left town, but it will be running this weekend.

The dwell time on the Stein map came set at 4500us. Does it need to be set to 5000us for the oem ignition?

https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/t11744/

education there!

Thanks - I don't see anything in the Adpatronic menus that modifies dwell time as function of voltage. Assuming 12v is nominal, then 5ms might be too long?

Here's the dwell curve for the '00 coils:

EDIT: the old graph was wrong:
To reach 5.5A:
10V: 5.9 mS
11V: 5 mS
12V: 4.25mS
13V: 3.75mS
14V: 3.3mS
15V: 2.9mS

i'd aim closer to mid 13V and put in 3.5ish.

or best yet, check your batt voltage while you're driving. a datalog is a good idea.

you can use between 3 and 4mS until you find out for sure what your avg voltage is.

My datalogs show the voltage averaging ~14.5v. I'll reset the dwell closer to 3ms.

I just put in what Travis suggested as I had no clue. I'm normally around 14.3v. Should I dial it back from 4.5? It ran fine at 2 or 2.5 for a couple of days when he suggested changing it. No noticeable difference between 2.5 and 4.5.

Have you played with the adaptive ignition timing yet? That timing map in there from what I could tell is pretty conservative at mid to high loads (as it should be for a base map). In fact I was thinking about transposing my old MS spark map, retarded 1-2 degs, as a starting point, especially since I have slightly less compression in the new motor.

+1. I'm kind of curious about Travis' take on this. I run with 2.5 in my AEM without any "noticeable" issues.

Running a little bit too much dwell isn't a bad thing. I was a little surprised about how it didn't have a dwell vs voltage map, but to tell you the truth, just set it for a little higher then what your average voltage accounts for and be done with it. The toyota cops were being over driven by twice their spec so that was a problem. But 5 percent too much isn't going to hurt anything.

still not sure what to do about the lc1... if i cant figure out whats going on, i might just get a aem uego... what do u guys think about this. the basic uego with the gauge also has serial and will work with the settings in the adaptronic right?
anyone has recommendations for were to get the uego?

No, as I knew I was going bigger on injectors right away and it would be kind of pointless. As soon as I retune with the 600's that I just installed and bump boost to 10 I will be playing with it. EBC should be at home by now. I'm home tomorrow.

ebay has then for 230 shipped I believe. I'm having some wiring problems with my uego right now though, so I dont think you'll have any better luck with it.

from what i have read in the manual i think mine might be ok actually. i am going to hook my laptop to it to see whats actually going on..

Didn't you tell me you had the LC-1 installed without having a it powered up? I thought I had read that unpowered oxygen sensors are damaged if they are not powered up but exposed to exhaust gases?

no... i knew that having the sensor in their will mess it up if its not powered.. the sensor always had power everytime..
from the lc1 manual:
1. Blinking steady about 2 times/second: Warming up
2. Blinking steady at about 4 times/second: Heater calibration
so the light IS supposed to blink when it warms up. it recalibrates when the led is off...

Mine normally blinks for about 15 seconds maybe when It just first starts up. It then stops and stays solid red. The meter reads fine. Sorry I misunderstood how you had it hooked up.

Yeah that is the normal warmup routine. Mine does the same thing. In fact you can configure it to output a particular fixed voltage while this is going on.

Cool. I will recalilbrate, hook it up to my laptop and all should be good. :)

Another question: when u hook up the lc1 to the adaptronic serially, do u need the terminator plug plugged in to the other connection port?

Seems like I did, but I can't exactly remember. Its gotta be in the manual somewhere.

Guess we will know the truth in a week or so when I get my LC1 back from warranty. its been unpowered for like 4 days now.

I believe its all bullshit.

Yep, I believe that is how you HAVE to do it for the serial interface to work; That is how I did it. It was literally plug in, configure the Adaptronic, and play.

Sweet! Sounds excellent. I love when things just work!