I don't think this wing is meant to compete directly with something like Singular's GT250 package. Singular's rear wing is tried and true setup, it's the go-to piece for a rear wing on a NA/NB for 99% of it's intended users that want to win. To me this seems like an inexpensive option for a rear wing, not an alternative solution to a high-end(for miatas) rear wing package.

I suspect there will be more data collected on this foil and will even be shared! Because that's what we do in this nice little community of ours. I have a feeling it might even end up on a PTE-trim car for science. :party:

Agreed ^

That's kind of what I'm thinking. This isn't for the person who's trying to optimize their setup to 100%. This is for the person who wants an affordable and slightly DIY option for a track car or budget series. I think Singular got thrown into the converation because the mounts used during "testing" were similar and people assumed they were going to be getting something to compete with those kits. To be honest, I was like most people and didn't know the difference between the GT250 and GT200's until today. So I could see where it quickly got confusing.

Ryan - I have several Singulär products and they are all excellent. I'm not considering this a competitor to your wing. I simply cannot justify/afford your wing at my income level, and my driving level. My previous option for aero was "I can't afford a wing". Hopefully no hard feelings for posting this up.

Will there be any wing stands that 9 Lives Racing will provide in the future to sell a complete wing ready to bolt on? Also if we could get some real world results on a miata that might help the product a bit.

I too also have been very happy with all my singular products.

Why haven't Chump Racers embraced the 3-D printed wings? light, very strong, cheap, easy to modify design. I think an entire print wold be like 60 bucks worth of filament.

As I said before, that is an option

I was about to pull the trigger on a printer this week, when I saw this.

Aero isn't something that has been fully explored in ChampCar yet, but like any series, speed creep is real, and aero will be the next avenue.

I have been messing with printers for a while now. Hands down, the PRUSA MK3 is the best bang-for-the-buck printer. Mine sits in a closet making parts and generates income..

If I sold stands and endplates for something that would make people eventually graduate up to my fancy wangs I would be pleased.

Do these help?

https://www.rtheorymotorsports.com/s...gt-wing-stands

Designed to work with the 9 lives racing wing.

I'm trying to understand the business reason behind not selling the stands.

I would need a 4" front splitter to balance out this wing, right?

Actual cost of printing them would be my guess. I don't know of anyone with a printer that can do a full wing in one print. I would be hesitant to trust gluing together a wing and expecting it to hold up. But I am no expert.

Allthread through the middle and epoxy sections together. Idea stolen from Madjak. I will be working on one very soon. printer is making money ATM.

That may work. The other cool chumpcar aero cheat is using a NA headlight motor to make the wing active and come down when you hit the brakes,

We have an old APR aluminum wing from a friends Miata we are going to test on our ChAmp Car in a few weeks and compare it to a spoiler. If it works, we'll probably pony up for an 9LR element.

That was my thought with this. With all of the COT wings snapped up, there's no decent entry level wing that you can start with before graduating up to the big boy wang.

Nice find! I was worried about the cutouts affecting drag, but they also sell them without the cutouts.

I thought he used aluminum tubing and threaded the ends, not allthread. Lighter and stiffer than allthread.

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That sure is a pretty wang you got there.