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Old 01-19-2018, 03:12 PM
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You're right. I should have lead off with this.
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^^ See, she is capable of learning.

OP, now you can edit your first post and put that picture there.
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Originally Posted by Bell Tuning & Performance View Post
Good question. I can't see product development continuing if initial testing was not better than stock. Otherwise, the part would have died with the supercharger kit. I was not directly involved on initial testing years ago, and I do not see the answer in my notes. I will talk to the person who was involved with testing to see if I can find out. Give me a couple of days to get back to you on this.
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Where you able to find the testing data on this?
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Originally Posted by acedeuce802 View Post
Where you able to find the testing data on this?
You were already told that because it exists, it must be better. Is further questioning really necessary?
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Originally Posted by acedeuce802 View Post
Where you able to find the testing data on this?

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Originally Posted by acedeuce802 View Post
Where you able to find the testing data on this?
I was able to speak to the person who helped develop the kit. The Fuel Delivery Kit does flow more than the stock set up. The size of the lines have a combined flow area that is significantly more than stock. How much difference in flow is the data that is unknown because I do not know what the flow is on OEM parts. I know sizes of fuel lines, but would need more info on lengths of lines and fuel rail ID to get closer to what the final "difference" number actually is. Initial testing was done almost 9 years ago, so he was not able to recall more specifics, sorry.

That all said, It is not until just over 300 hp that the stock lines become restrictive. The very first Full E85 fuel delivery kit we installed & dyno'd at 380 whp had no issues. We ran -6 lines from the tank and used VP Racing E85 (because pump E85 could not provide the desired ethanol content).
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Is that Stephanie's miata or does bell tuning now own miata's after they all burned down.
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My '03 Strato Blue is driving quite well. Dynotronics owns all the burned Miatas, not me!
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Originally Posted by Bell Tuning & Performance View Post
My '03 Strato Blue is driving quite well. Dynotronics owns all the burned Miatas, not me!
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Originally Posted by Bell Tuning & Performance View Post
My '03 Strato Blue is driving quite well. Dynotronics owns all the burned Miatas, not me!
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Must not be running the begi fuel system
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No one has used the BEGI fuel system (which is the FMU And external fuel pump) for several years now. It is outdated technology and not the best solution for the Miata.
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Originally Posted by Bell Tuning & Performance View Post
No one has used the BEGI fuel system for several years now. It is outdated technology and not the best solution for the Miata.
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100% agreed
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1-18-2018 "BTP Fuel Delivery Kit is now ever better than ever"
2-2-2018 "No one has used the BEGI fuel system for several years now. It is outdated technology and not the best solution for the Miata."


That was fast
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Any type of fuel delivery product built by anyone- the liability has to be crazy!

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Originally Posted by matrussell122 View Post
1-18-2018 "BTP Fuel Delivery Kit is now ever better than ever"
2-2-2018 "No one has used the BEGI fuel system for several years now. It is outdated technology and not the best solution for the Miata."


That was fast
I'm pretty sure she was talking about an older BEGI abortion.
This thingus:


The comment is equally applicable to both.
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Originally Posted by matrussell122 View Post
1-18-2018 "BTP Fuel Delivery Kit is now ever better than ever"
2-2-2018 "No one has used the BEGI fuel system for several years now. It is outdated technology and not the best solution for the Miata."
That was fast
Those are two different products..... I tried to clarify that in my post. The BEGI Fuel System was a combination of the FMU/FPR and the external Pierburg or Bosch fuel pump. It was used on all 1990-2005 Miatas -even the return-less style fuel systems. It will only add fuel when under boost by increasing your fuel pressure with stock or slightly larger fuel injectors. This is outdated technology because it can not control ignition timing. You would still have to use a Bipes ACU to control timing and it is still very limited in its capabilities.

The Fuel Delivery kit is a replacement for the fuel rail.
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I'm not dirty. Who said I was?
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