Just cus the vendor offers to fix the issues doesn't make it all better. Yes custom custom custom blah blah but still, the damn part should like, fit and not be janky and crappy.

It costs time and effort and frikken emotional sadness when you receive a crappily built part. Is that hard to understand? For $700 I'd expect the intake to like, be decent, not lame.

That said, year after year BEGI your quality control and execution is crap. Perhaps the issue is that you represent your products as off the shelf excellent, plug em right in. Commonly that's not the case. Yes I get that that in essence, you're a one off shop. That however is not an excuse for shipping crap parts and representing them as bingo.

A one off shop is fine IF you market yourself as such. I understand that back in the dawn of time when you split from FM you had to market yourself as plug and play to compete and exist. Well, after years of wackass fabrication and fitament, that clearly isn't how you are capable of executing. And that's ok.

That is ok. IF you set customer expectations accordingly. That all parts may not be plug and play. Because they're all custom and you have some pillhead UT dropout running your TIG. Set the expectation that parts may need to be sent back repeatedly for months to make em right.

That would be better than expecting plug and play and it would also keep you out of situations like having to bend over and spread wide and deep and wow two fists deep because of customers like NwarR who were expecting the stupid part to fit when it comes out of the UPS box. I'm sure NwarR is gonna give you lame specs and then dyno the car and cry cus the power band is all 10,000 RPM+.

Am only writing this cus I actually hope your business can be improved. Think you have a fabrication issue and more importantly a marketing and customer messaging issue. :jerkit:

also u need more

:fael::fael::fael::fael::fael::fael:

Am I the only one that was satisfied with my product? It took a bit long to make, but that is to be expected from a company that actually makes these to order. I had no fitment issues, welds were great, works as advertised. It wasn't a hard part to make, just a downpipe, but I've had no issues out of it.

That is nice for you. The thing is that their overall quality is very inconsistent.

Did I just read the most legit and accurate review from FaeFae

IT'S A CHRISTMAS MIRACLE!!

Seriously. This is exactly on point.

BOTTOM LINE: Design/Engineering is great for the most part, execution and quality control are TERRIBLE. This has been re-confirmed like 5 billion times over the years.

^

I had to check the post author three times to verify that it was indeed Fae. It was articulate, to the point, made sense, and out of (choose 3: penis, ass, your mom), it had only one!

Nwar,
Thanks for accepting the offer. I remain at your schedule.

If I may, I'd like to suggest a note or two here to various respondents.
Jokes about Tequila have been carried a bit far. I am not particularly fond of the stuff, and booze is not allowed in my building. Implying I am boracho on the job is a bit of a stretch.

On review of this thread, my first statement was "I blew this one." If that was a denial, I'll clearly work on my English.

I am aware of many problems, but I hope quality of design and craftsmanship are not among them.

Corky

If products are bought and they don't fit, then either the quality of design or craftsmanship, or both ARE the issue

Indeed your first statement was "I blew this one" Followed up with "admit you're imperfect, and I'll go ahead and make this right."

Your english is fine, and so is your engineering. It's your business methods that are lacking.

This is officially now the Criticize Corky Thread.

I am sure your theory is great- I read your book and for all my ignorant self knows, you could have made it all up. But I don't think that's the case.

A key part of business is setting customer expectations. Just set em right that all these custom parts may take some back and forth to get right and you'll always make it right.

Either that or spend a lot more time in the fabrication and QA process to make sure EVERY SINGLE custom part that goes out the door actually plugs up and was manufactured properly for that specific kind of miata.

If um NwAR was told "we'll do our best but what you ship may have some issues and we will address em" he probably wouldn't have come to the Internet, Savior and Refuge of the Aggrieved.

Fae you must not be feeling well. Please go away and come back when you're back to normal.

Edit: I hate this mobile site.

Has Fae gone through some interesting maturing process. Really refreshing posts. I think he has just been putting us on for years.

No way. Never would have guessed.

Hows the car coming Fae? Stoked for EFR lyfe?

stfu go ride dicks i cant believ you didnt get double ceramic for ur clutch

also flat shit is best at 100% rpm you're pretty much at stock power so like, the car wont even notice

if youre really xool then youll set up a trigger in uer map to run negative timing when clutch switch is in that way ur flat shit can pattotie and spool ur bitch


let's see if shuiend got my ride n pieces yet

Fae and Aidan take over allofthethreads.

I'll get ceramics for the T5. The organic will hold anything the 6 speed will.

I break shit even when it's not supposed to break. I'm gonna be nice to this 6 speed. Yeah I'm only making 2x stock hp, it feels like a bitchmobile.

Pretty sure timing drops to -3 degrees to spool my turbo. But its a baby shitty turbo. I'll send a lotore more fireballs through abholset they like it hot. It patoies real nice as is. It's just slow
Once traction control gets hooked up I'll play in the wet more. I'm a big baby, and have already crashed my shit twice.

UPDATE:

I gave BEGi an out. It consisted of a one for one trade. A new corrected intake manifold for the mess they sent me. They accepted but assumed that I would send them the manifold I had so the they could fix it and send it back, the same one, to me. Sure they did say that they would never do such a thing.. but my trust is not something they have since I got their version of a Frankenstein "intake replacement". It needed much more than just a correct flange. The whole plenum had to be realigned and straightened.

Corky wanted multiple design specs, runner lengths, plenum shape changes and measurements to make a new manifold. So I sent BEGi a sketch of something that would meet those drastic changes. Stephanie insisted that the only changes would be the flange and an adjustment of an eighth here or there. It didn't seem that they were on the same page. That was frustrating as hell communicating to a two headed beast. I saw logic in that I shouldn't expect to much from them on the new manifold, so I agreed to only needed corrections which were the flange and the realignment of the plenum. But I would not send them the messed up manifold until I received a new manifold.

So now they refuse. They will not make a new manifold without getting the old one back. This was curious.. couldn't they make a good one without my bad one? Seems that each manifold they is 'custom'. They can't duplicate or in this case create a quality manifold that works. I asked about a jig. Maybe they had or were using a specific jig to create the precision at which to assemble each manifold. So that each of those manifolds are getting the same level of attention. In fact, if there needed to be changes to enhance quality a simple solution would to be make changes to the jig. And each jig would be in spec to certain dimensions of a model year Miata. Make sense?

Anyway, I couldn't hold be my frustration any long and sent a final email expressing my disgust with BEGi.
"BEGi,
Then re-think your business production strategy because it is absolutely dismal. You cost me money, time, un-needed stress, complete lost of faith in American businesses and practices. It is shameful the way you have screwed something up and flail around pointing out your insufficient abilities at someone else's expense. Now that, is going of on a straight and truthful and photographic factual tangent.
If you can't reproduce a quality product, what use do I have for you? No thank you for your business."

Advice; Do not speak with them on the phone they may deny everything you discussed with them. Emails only so that you have hard proof of communication. This has help exposing their nature on the forum. Also in hindsight I would not have paid in full. Negotiate a pay half now, pay the balance once you get the product and checked it. Because they don't really check it.. wrong flange is too easy to see.

Sorry if I offended anyone. I know it is hard to hear bad things about someone or something you admire. Good news though, soon there will be a crappy BEGi intake manifold for sale on eBay for NB Miata 1999-2005. I have learned that there is a positive to all our woes.. like it's a perfect time to think of an engine swap.

Yes. This is all the fault of American Business. As a whole.

I can see both sides of the whole "I wont send mine back until you send my new one" and their "I wont send your new one until we get the old one"

They have no guarantee you will return the old one and you have no guarantee the new one will be to your satisfaction.

Let me quote myself here,

5th post in this thread.

This is normal stuff for exceptionally low volume, low demand, and well priced parts.

you cant use the IM currently, so send it the fuck back you big baby.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1452868051

Yes, send it back so that BEGi has both your money and the part. You should feel totally comfortable that you will receive excellent communication, prompt service, and all promises will be kept.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1452878269

@Braineack - The thread is a review of a product I received from BEGi. It outlines the substandard quality of the intake manifold I paid for in earnest trust. All the required information was communicated to them in order to produce the item. And yet they sent me an incomplete, insufficient, dismal, incompatible and ugly commodity. It is so bad, you want to avoid looking at it. Mind you, this is from a business that uses the slogan, "Performance Innovation Reliability™", on their website.
Now after many attempts to open their eyes and see what a disastrous thing they have done.. and giving them a way to get back some respect, they refuse. They are untrustworthy, and absolutely unqualified. I will not give them any more of my time or money. But if you don't understand this thread, send me a Reverant/Braineack Megasquirt and I promise to pay you after I get. You can trust me!!

You have an expensive paperweight if you don't send it back.

I'm sure they want the old one to measure the location of items you said were off by x amount.

I'd have told you to go pound sand up your ass after the second time you snubbed an offer to fix the situation and bad-mouthed me in public, but that's just me.

I'd send it back and get a refund, or send it back and get a replacement. If I was BEGI I'd just tell you send it in for a refund and be done.

that's not how it works. I'd ask you to send yours back first, I'd either repair it or build you a new one. I once sent my personal MS out to someone that was having issues and I was incredibly stupid and lucky as hell he sent the other back.

I have no protections against you just taking both. You can always still request a chargeback on your CC. If you send it back and request a refund, I have no doubts BEGi will honor it. If they don't you'll sit around online all day posting about it until they do something about it. What can BEGi do to recover back their resources? Nothing. What stops you from getting the new IM from them and then still going out and selling the old one on eBay? Nothing.

Yeah, they messed up, it sucks, and its frustrating and I'm not making it any better -- but they offered resolution. You're seriously being an overdramatic little baby that no one gives a shit about.



and FWIW I have no relations with Reverant.

Business relations that is....i've seen the vids.

yeah. sorry I wasn't clear. sexual, yes; business, no.

Yes, It seems we are at an impasse. He has installed the manifold and does not want to remove it. Matt was offered a brand new manifold to replace the other one. He was promised a completely new manifold no less than 5 times and by two different people. Yes, he was told he could make some changes to it within reason. Here is what I emailed him:
"Matt,
That is fine. We are happy to do that. Within reason, though. We will not make major changes to runner length, dimensions, air horns, etc. We won’t change anything that compromises the power adding design of the manifold. However, if you need a bracket moved here, a different bung, flange at a different angle, flange moved forward (only a little bit) – we can do that. Send me a drawing of what you want done. Or, take a photo of the intake manifold and label/add/change dimensions on it on the computer.
Thanks,
Stephanie"

As I further explained to him, I will refuse design changes that are not proven to make power. Just because we CAN make it one way does not mean we SHOULD. The customer is paying for a part that is proven to add power. Most suggestions of changes we get have all been proven to not work, i.e. bent runners, D shaped plenum, longer runner between TB and plenum. There are also other factors to take into consideration such as fitment and hood clearance. Matt asked for longer runners, bent runners, and to move the TB closer to the radiator. In this case, the runners could be extended 0.5" but any more and it will be even more difficult to install. The bent runners will crack and moving the TB forward will hit the hood. We will not send him something we know will not work.

As for why we need the manifold back, Corky needs it back to get dimensions off of it to ensure the new manifold does not have the same faults. When Matt refused to send it back, Corky asked him for the specific dimensions he needed. He did not send those either only replied with "I don't understand, does he know how to make one?" Of course he knows how to make one, he just does not want to make the same mistake twice.

Since we lack the information necessary to send Matt what he wants, we can only honor our original offer of sending the correct flange and paying for it to be welded on locally.
Stephanie

This.

I would cancel my relationship with op if I were corky.

send back the original, get refund. move on
why even drag this out any longer?
if they don't refund your money you have a really simple and really easy chargeback or small claims court case

Corky, I knew I recognized your name from somewhere "Maximum Boost" Good read.

I am not gonna sit here and tell you how to run your business but your responses are frightening at best.

OP its simple send your old begi intake manifold back and either

A: ask for a refund
or
B: Have them make a new IM to their spec but make sure its not defective like the first one you received

Every business should have the oppertunity to fix something, if that will happen is undecided until you choose one of the only options that are available.
I hope both begi and the OP get it worked out.

OP: I know its hard to trust someone or company but there are rules to play by. It sucks they you got a defective product.

CORKY: I know it is infuriating to see someone talk bad about your work and business. Taking it on the chin is tough but we've all been there. Now its time time for you to really show what kind of business and person you are based on how you are gonna handle this scenario.

Hope all goes well for both.

All is well that ends well. But, it did not happen this time.

I was actually looking forward to making the thing, they're fun to build. I was surely expecting the gentlemen to sumit a note to this thread that I made a splendid piece and it fit his required dimensional changes and he loved it.

Ain't gonna happen.

Not only did he refuse to send the original back, he refused to give me any dimensions. I yielded on the need to send the original back first, just send the dims requested and I'd get on with making the replacement.

His answer was not quite what I either wanted or expected: "no, and do not communicate with me again, Stephanie has taken care of me."

Corky

Just curious -- are we supposed to feel unsympathetic toward your customer, or surprised that you and Stephanie aren't on the same page? Not sure what your intended effect was.

How did she take care of him?

At least there's one type of happy ending in this thread.

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahajahahajahahahahahaha

i dont understand y u just didnt write

((ha18(ja))ha2)ja)ha6

I don't know why you didn't spell out your words.

WARNING!!

I'm warned...now what.

I'm ready.

NWaR and Stephanie, sitting in a treeeeeee.....