BEGI Delivery time?
 

I would like to order a Begi-ssm kit. I've been told to expect 3-4 weeks for delivery (it is a different turbo than most of their setups gt2871). After reading some threads I am worried about delays. I am the type of customer who if told it will done at a certain time and it gets delayed too much I would rather loose money and time, rather than tough it out. So I would send it back to make sure the company won't get any of my money.

My question is when Begi has promised a delivery time how accurate was it. Right on? Early? Late? or 5 months later and still giving excuses. I really like their products but I will have no patience if they start making excuses and delays, and I will take my business elsewhere if need be.

I would like to hear only if you have had personal experience, so please no, my friend had this happen to him but not me. Thanks

Forget the poll and buy AbsurdFlow.

From reading many threads about them the general review I'm getting is that they are very often late. I'd say expect it at least a few weeks late just so you get no surprises.

I am looking into all vendors but for the kit I want and parts I want so far Begi is my choice. That is unless I find out 3-4 weeks will become much longer. Thanks

why dont you work this out with BEGi if you're concerned? call them up, tell them your opinion on lateness, and see how they react.

you'll either hang up with a money back delivery guarantee or a solid reason to shop somewhere else. polls are lame.

The reason is I have had companys say yeah I'll have it out to you by then or refund your money. Then the time comes and goes. And I end having to either wait longer or return the product. Now if I find that most people have been lied to (what I call it when someone promises something and never delivers) then I won't trust their word. However if I find the opposite then I will do buisness.

Was this companies name "BEGI"? No? So how is that little story relevant? Call them and tell them you will hold them to the time line promised or expect compensation. It's called a service level agreement. Common sense, you don't need an internet forum to tell you this.

WTF why are you getting your panties ruffled. I need to know other peoples experiences to see if a company is trustworthy. I've made that very clear. An agreement is nothing if the company making the agreement isn't trustworthy. Either you have a personal experience or you don't. If you don't then don't post simple enough.

There are better ways of handling it then polling for opinions.

Either call them and get an agreement in place, or don't. Yes, I have personally dealt with them. On products I've ordered they have come through.
On a current product they are building for me, I did not give them a time line because it is not important to me. For someone who values time, as you mentioned earlier, you sure are wasting a great deal of it by polling a site historically pro-BEGI.

I say BEGi hires me as "Shop Manager and All-Around General Turbo Dweeb" and all these issues will be gone.

Although I have yet to have any delivery issues and they were able to come through for me a few years back with my "need by" date for my custom downpipe.

I suggest you call and talk to Steph and ask for an honest assessment of when you should expect delivery, then get her to sign a contract that gives you it for free if they fail to meet your date :P

LOL Once i'm ready to order another week it looks now :( I will be talking to Steph. I would still like to hear everybody's experience. Good or bad. Thanks

most people have good experiences. done.

So far the poll says that products are almost always late. Good experience or not thats important to know.

A) get parts fast but have critical pieces missing or fit poorly and you get no support.

B) get parts slow but everything is there plus the company will cup your nuts if you need.

you decide.

I've had issues with them, but if anything they're pretty darn good at resolving any issue I've had with them.

ah but if it was late and they still had a good experience what does that say?

why does it matter so much if its on time? are you getting deployed? and are the type of person who doesn't understand that shit happens? people get sick, stuff isn't made to spec so it has to get remade.

Also its not like what you're buying is sitting around on a self waiting to be shipped. its all custom made. now its also really dumb to send back a product that was made for you because it was late. yea you didn't spend money but now you're back to square one with no parts and then you have to go through the same thing again.

extremely late is the exception to the previous statement

I had one good experience and another bad experience.

First:
1.6 "s" kit no turbo SSSGDP- delivered as promised
1.8 "s" kit w/ gt2560 SSSGDP in a 1.6 car. I received a mild steel dp when i ordered a ss one. They did some lame slip over thing at the end of the dp because for some reason they couldn't just put a 1.6 cat in there to mate it up too. So the dp doesn't fit perfectly.

The worst part of all was i was told 10-15 days till ship and it didnt ship till 45 days after the date i ordered. With the wrong dp!

I called back and talked to Stephenie and she never returned my call. I just put the mild steel dp on since i had a track event coming up and i couldn't wait another month for the proper dp. :(

You shouldn't have to. And i'm sorry your saying if I want it in 3-4 weeks that is rushing it. And they would have an excuse to not have the right parts in the box?

Once again I'm not saying anything bad about begi. I am just trying to find out if the products have arrived when they say or was it late. If I am told it will take a certain time may it be 4 weeks or 4 months and then it is delayed is a deal buster for me.

I understand that things come up once in awhile especially with custom parts but if it happens almost every order then its not the circumstances it's the company's organization.

Both situations can be true.

*vaguely relevant anecdote*

*i heard this from so and so*

*well one time this company took too long to ship something so i'm afraid that this other unrelated company might do the same thing*

*a guy raped me as a child now i refuse to trust men and only sleep with women*

What is wrong with someone polling people's opinion about a business? I think it is perfectly reasonable for the OP to question if a company was able to deliver on time and when they promised.

I think the question that the OP should be asking is will you get what you ordered and will the parts fit with out modification. I'd rather get something a little late, than have to send the thing back because the O2 sensor bung is in the wrong place.

My last project was a turbo mustang, there were issues and delays. That experience and others taught me that if you are fitting a turbo to a car that didn't come with it, delays are highly possible, especially with custom stuff. Granted it's not a given, but possible. That said, if you are impatient, and/or your car is your only mode of tranportation, only use products with a reputation of fitting right the first time. Limit the customizing and go with tried and true parts. If you can't do that, don't bicth about delays.

my order took like 2-months I think, who cares? If the miata is your only car then you need to get a real job and get a real car, like a Veyron.

Did they say it would take 2 months?

ONCE AGAIN I'M NOT WORRIED ABOUT HOW LONG IT TAKES BUT HOW LONG THEY SAID IT WOULD TAKE AND THE ACTUAL TIME IT TOOK

Seriously dude, if you order custom shit, don't be suprised if it doesn't fit right or there are delays. I will never order customs parts unless it is local. Mail order customs shit is a nightmare waiting to happen. If you have patience issues, order off the shelf shit.

You better watch the motherfucking way you type to me or I'll have to drive my turbo miata down to Houston and whoop your ass like your dad...then get a viet sandwich from Louis Givrals.

I'm going to give you a chance to retype that, with respect. DO NOT PISS ME OFF or my little, faggy dog will eat Purina out of your skull.

LOL how about you read my posts more slowly and apologize to me for making me type something twice. YOUR FAULT FOR NOT READING Maybe your dad shouldn't have slept with his sister and had you and then maybe you would know how to read.

Hey chucky can you explain max boost to me again

max boost-extremely scientific term. His words, not mine.

OP- They seem better about delivering the simple "kits" on time, not so much on the fancier, higher level kits. If you want a PNP kit with no BS, I'd call FM. From what I've seen, both companies sell badass kits and FM usually/overall/in general/ not-all-cases-but-most/ has a more straightfoward install, everything in the box the first time, no returning things that don't fit, etc.

I'm posting from my iPhone on 290 right now. I hope you have a gun because I have your IP and you're going to need it. Good luck, dead motherfucker.

oh noes:bowrofl:

Hmm here I was going to say a nice little joke about you on 290 but I decided to do something different.

1. I have your ip address and a friend who works for the APD so I can get where you live and your name.
2. I do own a gun (actually 3) and I have concealed handgun licencse.
3. I take threats on my life very seriously. You continue and there will be consequences.

oh wow.....just wow:jerkit:
you will go down in history as the first person to completely kill one of hustlers funny rants. good job buzz kill buzz killington

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No duel i'm serious. Threatening to kill someone is not something I take lightly nor should anyone else. I've seen enough death to know its not something to be joked about ever.

This thread just took a real turn to stupid.

I don't find threatening to kill someone funny at all. Nor would anyone who has seen death in real life.

internet is serious business obviously
:jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit::jerkit:

lurk more.

See now, I can't imagine spending a whole lot of time around Hustler... or living with him, but you know you'd have some laughs and have a damn fun time... but you, I'm so sorry for whomever has to live around/with you or interact with you daily...

Its the internet, relax.

We...drive...Miatas. :giggle:

sigh....

:werd: I don't find any humor in it whatsoever.

I need to get this new job I'm after...I have wayyyyyyyyyyyyy too much time on my hands now. lol

he was threatening your internets.

i hope you dont play video games online. those are serious business.

At least nobody claimed to have connections with the Danish Mafia.


No, seriously. It happened.:eek5:

Quit thread-bating and turbo your car already. I've only got a few posts more than you and I've had my miata turbo'd for 9 months....and I got my miata in Feb '08.

As the king said....a little less talk and a little more action.

OK, first hand experience with BEGI.

1st order- Bipes for JSRC- a little late spring 2007

2nd order- S3 GT2860 w/Xede- most hardware delivered in 5 weeks, Xede delivered 4weeks later, one part (rubber inlet hose) took multiple calls to get the right peace but once the right peace was identified it was expressed to my door. Ordered 1-??-2008 complete, installed and racing 4-19-2008.

3rd order- 3" cat and cat-back in SS 5-??-2008- delivered a little after date quoted, maybe 2 or 3 weeks

4th order- walbro 190lph HP - ordered last week- has not been delivered, not worried!

BEGI is a high quality small job shop that can not quite keep up with the demand for their products (good position to be in). I'm very happy BEGi products and have learned to deal with the time factor.

Daryl

Ok, from the horses' mouth..... For little parts, we usually ship on time. For turbo systems, they are usually late for one reason or another. *Usually* no more that a week or so. However, if I know of a pressing need for a specific "deliver by date", 9 out of 10 I can usually make the deadline. That said, I have to confirm with suppliers that parts are available before I can tell you we can make the deadline. We will not be the fastest to get a custom part made, but we can build quality stuff to your specs.

You say you want to use a GT2871? It might take extra time to get it made. We will probably make the downpipe off of the turbo and manifold. So the turbo has to be here first. This to to ensure that the stuff will still fit with the (possibly larger) turbo. The turbo gets ordered when the deposit is made. I think my new turbo supplier has this one in stock, but I am not certain. I remember him saying that he has the 2871's that are interchangeable for the GT2860's I think.

Lead times change weekly. You will need to call, e-mail, or IM to confirm them.
Stephanie

Small they are not, the rest is correct.

Personally, I think they started outsourcing the manufacturing of their Begi S pipes, if not other stuff to. This would explain why anything out of spec takes so long to get done.

Hmm...not sure what you consider big, but if you think BEGi is a big shop I've got something to show your gf.

Having visited them last Thursday I can attest that they are a small shop. Much smaller than I expected, but they were definitely moving. It looked like a couple of full-time experienced hands, and a few local high school (maybe older) kids bending and cutting. I'm sure it's quite a workload for Corky to do design, development, customer service, fabrication, and instruction/supervision.

Having seen the jigs for their downpipes around the shop, and a few DPs and intercoolers in process, it doesn't appear that they are outsourcing much. They would have to confirm this, but I believe they only outsource their castings.

Either way they definitely try to make quality parts that will perform. Dealing with job shops all day long at work (steel fastener/flange industry) I can tell you that everyone has problems meeting delivery dates, and the smaller the operation, the worse it usually is. We only keep outsourcing to some of these shops just because it means the final product will exceed customer expecatations.

mazdaspeed owner :jerkit:

Small we are. We have 5 full time employees and two part time.

To set the record straight, we are not like other turbo vendors, we do not 100% outsource a damn thing on our turbo kits! Everything is modified or made in house from as many made in USA products as possible. The screws and nuts come from overseas, I cannot help that. If the part is not designed, made by, or modified by BEGI, it is disclosed.

*Intercoolers are made by us, from cores made in NY.
*Turbos are made by Garrett and modified by us for fit.
*Cast iron manifolds were designed by us, cast by a foundry in Texas, and machined in house by us in house.
*S4 manifolds were designed by us, outsourced overseas, machined and modified by BEGI.
*FMU's are designed by us, made by a CNC'er here in Texas, assembled and tested by BEGi.
*Downpipes are designed by us, made from materials made in CA or China, flanges are laser cut by a Texas company, everything is assembled and welded in house.
*Turbos and manifolds are ceramic coated by a company in Texas.
*Tubes are powdercoated in house or by a company in Texas.
*Tubes are fabricated and welded in house. U bends are made in CA, 90 degree elbows come from china via a company in CA.
*Radiator covers are laser cut by a company here in Texas.
*filters are made by K&N or Amsoil.
*Turbo hose is bought from a company in the US, however it is made in Mexico.
*t-bolt clamps typically come from Clampco.
*Gauge mounts are made by an individual here in Texas.
*Boost gauges are made by Autometer.
*Wideband gauges are made by Innovate.
*Bypass valves come from Mitsubishi
*air boxes, heat shields, scoopers, are all 100% fabricated in house.
*Stainless oil lines are assembled/crimped in house. Made from supplies manufactured in CA and/or overseas.
*Miscellaneous hardware come from Texas suppliers but is probably made elsewhere. ie. rubber hoses, hardware, etc..

We are very proud of the fact we use "made in USA" products where ever possible for major components and do not outsource fabricated pieces (except S4 manifold). I am certain that Garrett has some of their stuff cast in Mexico these days, however we choose to use the "name brand".

As for 'out of spec', we can make just about anything, but it will take time. We allow customizing of kits because we make it in house and can change things. No other turbo supplier/seller can make changes like we can.
Stephanie

Maybe choosing to provide customers with a more realistic time line for delivery is the smart thing to do. Or give no promise at all. Managing customer expectations is key, I'd rather disappoint a potential customer than disappoint an existing customer. Might make a quick sale saying that the kit will be ready in two weeks, or faster than the competition. But when that promise isn't met I'll start to shop elsewhere.

Thanks for responding Stephanie. I appreciate your honesty in that delays happen frequently. I know your parts are high-end and custom in some cases so I know it is expected. I think I will purchase from you/Begi as long as we can agree on what is a reasonable amount of time for delivery.

I want to reiterate that I am very grateful for a company like Begi that makes custom parts for our cars and in no way was this suppose to be Begi bashing thread. I only hope that my parts are not delayed beyond what I believe to be a reasonable amount. I'll contact you Stephanie in the next few days to purchase my order. Thanks for responding.

Do you guys drink Shiner or 512? lol

Its crazy to think about the logistics involved in the kit.