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Fireindc 03-10-2014 09:27 AM

Looks great man! Why go through the effort of making the cops PnP? I just hacked that plug off and wired them straight in. At this point if i EVER sell my car (no plans to) it's going to have to go with the MS installed at least anyways.

Vuti 03-10-2014 09:30 AM


Originally Posted by Jeffbucc (Post 1110239)
I'm guessing this is the adjustable fuel regulator? Has a bolt on the back of it that a ton of grounds bolt on to.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1394457832

Can't see an AFPR in the pic? Only the stock FPR in the top of the pic.

Jeffbucc 03-10-2014 09:33 AM


Originally Posted by Vuti (Post 1110244)
Can't see an AFPR in the pic? Only the stock FPR in the top of the pic.

The one in the middle of the picture with the Mitsubishi symbol on the top of the knob.


Originally Posted by Fireindc (Post 1110241)
Looks great man! Why go through the effort of making the cops PnP? I just hacked that plug off and wired them straight in. At this point if i EVER sell my car (no plans to) it's going to have to go with the MS installed at least anyways.

No clue man. Stick to the status quo I guess. I suck at wiring, so I figured it best to follow how it was down originally rather than get myself in trouble. In the words of Garth, "we fear change".:rofl:

Fireindc 03-10-2014 09:35 AM


Originally Posted by Jeffbucc (Post 1110246)
The one in the middle of the picture with the Mitsubishi symbol on the top of the knob.



No clue man. Stick to the status quo I guess. I suck at wiring, so I figured it best to follow how it was down originally rather than get myself in trouble. In the words of Garth, "we fear change".:rofl:

lmfao, awesome man. Well, it's well done just like everything else, so props. Did you start this thing yet? :P

Vuti 03-10-2014 09:36 AM


Originally Posted by Jeffbucc (Post 1110246)
The one in the middle of the picture with the Mitsubishi symbol on the top of the knob.

That's your PRC valve for hot restarts or you VICS solenoid. You can remove it or not.
You don't have an adjustable fuel pressure regulator.

EDIT: Yeah that's the VICS in your case

Zaphod 03-10-2014 09:38 AM


Originally Posted by Jeffbucc (Post 1110239)
I'm guessing this is the adjustable fuel regulator? Has a bolt on the back of it that a ton of grounds bolt on to.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1394457832

FPR has no wires to it only a vacuum line.

Jeffbucc 03-10-2014 09:42 AM


Originally Posted by Fireindc (Post 1110251)
lmfao, awesome man. Well, it's well done just like everything else, so props. Did you start this thing yet? :P

No clue on first start time dude. I still need to:
-Fix all the wiring issues with the MS3
-Wire in the new analog AEM AFR/Boost gauge
-Hook the intercooler up
-Probably need to order new silicone pipes since the intercooler is so much wider and the intake manifold piping has a lot of pin holes in the metal(soft steel).
-put the dash in once I finish the wiring.
-Actually put some gas in the tank.
-Pray to god that my battery isn't flat after sitting there for 5 months(probably need to put it on a battery tender)

Fireindc 03-10-2014 09:43 AM


Originally Posted by Jeffbucc (Post 1110257)
No clue on first start time dude. I still need to:
-Fix all the wiring issues with the MS3
-Wire in the new analog AEM AFR/Boost gauge
-Hook the intercooler up
-Probably need to order new silicone pipes since the intercooler is so much wider and the intake manifold piping has a lot of pin holes in the metal(soft steel).
-put the dash in once I finish the wiring.
-Actually put some gas in the tank.
-Pray to god that my battery isn't flat after sitting there for 5 months(probably need to put it on a battery tender)

So.. sometime this afternoon then?

JK, but I'm stoked to see this thing run soon. I can taste it.

Vuti 03-10-2014 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by Jeffbucc (Post 1110257)
Thanks Vuti, where would one transfer the ground location to? About 7 wires are grounded to the PRC. I'm guessing the stud on the firewall?

Don't remove it :)
That's the VICS solenoid and you need it if you want to operate the flaps in the IM.

That same solenoid is used as a PRC depending on the engine...

EO2K 03-10-2014 11:15 AM

Man, the engine shots took me a minute to figure exactly what was going on there... BP4W with CAS, M-Tuned fuel rail and stock FPR? Is that right? Not enough coffee yet this morning.

If the above is the case, is that a FM adapter to 1.6 TB with the On/Off TPS?

You FPR is the cylindrical object with the silver and blue sticker bolted to the fuel rail. It's got a vacuum line coming out of it. I'm actually wondering what FPR that is, because the 4W does not have a return with a regulator under the hood. As stated before, the thing with the Mitsubishi symbol on it is the VICS solenoid, but that's not a knob AFAIK. ;)

concealer404 03-10-2014 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 1110300)
Man, the engine shots took me a minute to figure exactly what was going on there... BP4W with CAS, M-Tuned fuel rail and stock FPR? Is that right? Not enough coffee yet this morning.

If the above is the case, is that a FM adapter to 1.6 TB with the On/Off TPS?

You FPR is the cylindrical object with the silver and blue sticker bolted to the fuel rail. It's got a vacuum line coming out of it. I'm actually wondering what FPR that is, because the 4W does not have a return with a regulator under the hood. As stated before, the thing with the Mitsubishi symbol on it is the VICS solenoid, but that's not a knob AFAIK. ;)

It's probably the stock NA regulator.

Our NA8 has the same exact setup. BP4W, CAS, M-Tuned rail, stock FPR.

Andd..... COPs, for that matter. Jeff, i suppose this means that if you run into issues, i might be able to help since it looks like our setups are identical.

Jeffbucc 03-10-2014 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1110308)
Andd..... COPs, for that matter. Jeff, i suppose this means that if you run into issues, i might be able to help since it looks like our setups are identical.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1394467273

Jeffbucc 03-10-2014 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 1110300)
Man, the engine shots took me a minute to figure exactly what was going on there... BP4W with CAS, M-Tuned fuel rail and stock FPR? Is that right?

If the above is the case, is that a FM adapter to 1.6 TB with the On/Off TPS?
but that's not a knob AFAIK. ;)

Yup BP4W with CAS, M-tuned rail and as Concealer said, stock regulator.

And yes, a VICS 99 intake manifold with the Flyin' Miata adapter. Not sure about the on/off TPS

The knob turns so in my head it is a knob!

Concealer, that makes me happier to know another COP setup is like mine. Takes some of the nervousness out of the equation.

Playing around with the intake manifold piping it seems like there is no way in hell I'm going to be able to squeeze the radiator piping/throttle body piping etc etc between the roll bar/radiator fans.

How many have used a thick piece of steel and clocked the radiator a little bit more vertical? Doesn't seem like it would be too difficult to even modify the OEM radiator side rails. If I had an inch or two more space I could do a lot cleaner of a setup, or at least not worry about things being jammed up against each other.

I mean just look at that jumble of pipes in the original car...gotta be a better way!

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1394470759

Does any vendor make a one piece silicone hose with a 90 degree bend, then 2 foot straight, then another 90 degree bend? Or should I just get a straight aluminum pipe and 2 90 degree elbows. The aluminum seems to make the most sense in my head due to the need for the BOV bung.

hornetball 03-10-2014 01:00 PM

Since you ditched the AC, you don't need the passenger-side radiator fan anymore -- unless you are rewiring for a dual-fan setup. That might buy you some room. Check out the pics on some of Emilio's cars (Crusher and the 95R). You'll see that he only uses the driver-side main cooling fan -- which is how Mazda delivered non-AC cars.

Jeffbucc 03-10-2014 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by hornetball (Post 1110335)
Since you ditched the AC, you don't need the passenger-side radiator fan anymore -- unless you are rewiring for a dual-fan setup. That might buy you some room. Check out the pics on some of Emilio's cars (Crusher and the 95R). You'll see that he only uses the driver-side main cooling fan -- which is how Mazda delivered non-AC cars.

Hmm interesting. That would give me tons of space.

I was going to rewire for dual fans but if one is really only necessary...hmmm. Need to think about that one.

concealer404 03-10-2014 01:13 PM

I'm not 100% sure if the COP setup is the same as ours. Just that the setup in general is. :bowrofl:

Toyota Denso cops on ours, running full sequential.

Don't know what that FM adapter is doing, though? We don't have that.

VICS also isn't hooked up yet, need to do something about that. You know... because i need to spool a GT2554R even faster.

Jeffbucc 03-10-2014 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1110341)
Don't know what that FM adapter is doing, though? We don't have that.

VICS also isn't hooked up yet, need to do something about that. You know... because i need to spool a GT2554R even faster.

Who knows....especially since it is a 99 I.M., seems like it shouldn't be necessary anymore now that I think about it.

Spool faster! Always better!

Jesus, I keep looking at the original cars engine bay....looks like someone just vomited parts into the bay(no offense intended Dave:giggle:). It's only when I look at the original car, when I realize just how far it has come. The car has probably lost over 50+ lbs in just dirt build up.

I remember when I was pressure washing the shell in the driveway dirt just kept pouring off of it for a couple hours. Took me another hour just to clean off the garage doors, the driveway, and the street. I regret nothing!

vteckiller2000 03-10-2014 03:01 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1110341)
I'm not 100% sure if the COP setup is the same as ours. Just that the setup in general is. :bowrofl:

Toyota Denso cops on ours, running full sequential.

Don't know what that FM adapter is doing, though? We don't have that.

VICS also isn't hooked up yet, need to do something about that. You know... because i need to spool a GT2554R even faster.

Ben, I think they are running wasted spark, not sequential.

Also, you do not need any more tire spinning spool. It is stupid enough...

concealer404 03-10-2014 03:07 PM


Originally Posted by vteckiller2000 (Post 1110387)
Ben, I think they are running wasted spark, not sequential.

Also, you do not need any more tire spinning spool. It is stupid enough...


Hrmm.... i need to jack into this thing this week and figure it all out.

And yes. There's VICS. It must be hooked up. More power.

curly 03-10-2014 03:29 PM

That's a 1.6 throttle body, adapted to the '99 intake. That engine never came with pop up headlights ;)

You could get a '99 throttle body to free up an inch or so.


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