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sshamrockk 08-16-2017 08:45 AM

Anotha one. 2560 1.8
 
https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...85c3f86a67.png
Stock 1.8, Fm2 kit, 2560r, ID725's, FM big spark kit. Pretty happy with numbers on a Mustang dyno. Now if I can just make it to the track to validate..

EDIT: The car also has a yonaka catback, It's a 2.5 inch.

18psi 08-16-2017 11:05 AM

Looks good :)
I'll check your logs and tune today

ridethecliche 08-16-2017 09:32 PM

Are you running EBC?

Looks good man!

I've seen your posts in the MassMiata group!

18psi 08-16-2017 09:35 PM

would have been awesome to see what the car made before he turned it down :)

ridethecliche 08-17-2017 03:02 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1434269)
would have been awesome to see what the car made before he turned it down :)

He turned down boost for that run?

18psi 08-17-2017 11:15 AM

Not boost, but timing and fuel. Well, kind of. I e-tuned this car, and recently he had a shop throw it on the dyon, the tuner/shop basically lowered timing by like .5-1 and richened up fuel by like .3 so probably a few hp, nothing drastic. He's just a few keystrokes away from 250hp. Overall really solid plot and OP loves it

sshamrockk 08-17-2017 12:08 PM

Yea running a diyautotune EBC. I think I'm just a dyno jet run away from 250hp+. :rofl: There's a dyno jet that's local to me, seems to read on the high side. I'll throw it on there when it gets colder out to get a few extra "internet penis points" as I like to call them haha. Only thing that matters now is to take it down a strip. I should expect 108-110mph if I'm assuming correct?

18psi 08-17-2017 12:12 PM

106-107 would be my guess. My msm trapped 106 and put down 230 dynojet/ 210 mustang.

thumpetto007 08-17-2017 12:37 PM

I didn't see a build thread for this car. What exhaust manifold are you using?

Intercooler and intake setup?

Thaaanks.

18psi 08-17-2017 12:46 PM

Read post #1 :)

sshamrockk 08-17-2017 01:14 PM


Originally Posted by thumpetto007 (Post 1434422)
I didn't see a build thread for this car. What exhaust manifold are you using?

Intercooler and intake setup?

Thaaanks.

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Everything except the injectors and boost controller is from the flyin Miata fm2 kit. Injectors I got "used" only 1k miles on them and then they were cleaned and flow tested. I would make the worst build log if I wanted to make one. I never take any pics when working on the car, plus it's a pretty much cookie cutter build.

thumpetto007 08-17-2017 09:41 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1434426)
Read post #1 :)

Yeah... woops. Must have looked at that post 4 times and missed that line of mods every time... #foreverblond



Originally Posted by sshamrockk (Post 1434437)
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Everything except the injectors and boost controller is from the flyin Miata fm2 kit. Injectors I got "used" only 1k miles on them and then they were cleaned and flow tested. I would make the worst build log if I wanted to make one. I never take any pics when working on the car, plus it's a pretty much cookie cutter build.

Thanks for the detail, sorry for making you write them. Good numbers, especially at the very top. Usually I see power nosediving well before 7k. Yours holds nice and steady. I'm guessing that has something to do with the ebc tuning? Unless you have a flat top im.

sshamrockk 08-18-2017 08:45 AM


Originally Posted by thumpetto007 (Post 1434573)
Yeah... woops. Must have looked at that post 4 times and missed that line of mods every time... #foreverblond




Thanks for the detail, sorry for making you write them. Good numbers, especially at the very top. Usually I see power nosediving well before 7k. Yours holds nice and steady. I'm guessing that has something to do with the ebc tuning? Unless you have a flat top im.

Its an all stock 94 motor so no flat top, and it's 15psi steady so it's not some trickery of adding boost taper to hold power. Dunno why it holds so nicely.

yossi126 08-18-2017 11:44 AM

It's because a 2560 is fine at holding this amount of boost. I don't know the point where it starts to drop off but I would guess a couple more psi.

ridethecliche 08-18-2017 12:13 PM

Could be the timing up top too, no? 94 has the lowest compression 1.8 pistons @8.8:1. Would make for a more aggressive map than say... an nb1 or nb2.

I'm guessing Miner tuned it, huh? His dyno is referred to as the heartbreaker dyno for a reason. That's a very respectable all around. Solid!

yossi126 08-18-2017 12:36 PM

From my experience tuning my own car, timing did nothing to help spool or keep boost pressure. Exhaust gas flow is what matters.

DNMakinson 08-18-2017 01:27 PM

Would you post your VE table? I'm interested how VE changes up top as torque drops off.

ryansmoneypit 08-18-2017 02:55 PM


Originally Posted by yossi126 (Post 1434656)
It's because a 2560 is fine at holding this amount of boost. I don't know the point where it starts to drop off but I would guess a couple more psi.

my 2560 held steady until about 18.5 psi. Above that, it would taper down to 18.5 as rpm climbed. By then it was probably spitting fire anyway.

sshamrockk 08-19-2017 12:34 AM


Originally Posted by ridethecliche (Post 1434661)
Could be the timing up top too, no? 94 has the lowest compression 1.8 pistons @8.8:1. Would make for a more aggressive map than say... an nb1 or nb2.

I'm guessing Miner tuned it, huh? His dyno is referred to as the heartbreaker dyno for a reason. That's a very respectable all around. Solid!

Yea, Miner tuned it, when i asked him about possible power output he said "low 200's" so I was surprised when he said it made 240. For the hell of it I'm interested in taking it to Baystate Dyno, see what their dynojet spits out, they seem to read really high. And maybe I'm wrong, I thought 94-?? had 9.0 compression ratio.


Originally Posted by DNMakinson (Post 1434684)
Would you post your VE table? I'm interested how VE changes up top as torque drops off.

Here's my spark, VE, and AFR table. The spark map is bassically the one that came with the DIY basemap, just rounded to nearest .5 increments as stated earlier. Also, how would the VE show torque loss? its flowing the same amount of boost, and building more horsepower the higher the RPM, so it never really loses any VE. Unless my understanding of tuning is completely wrong?
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...a27244265b.png
https://cimg5.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...afb6a502a9.png
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...6ffbfe5fb7.png

I didn't think this thread was going to be so popular.. :rofl: Maybe I should make a half assed build thread.

Lexzar 08-19-2017 11:26 AM

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