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Old 11-02-2016, 12:06 PM
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Unfortunatly, I think you're right about rings. If it makes you feel any better, I did a rods only build for under $500. I can post the parts list if you get to that...
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Pretty sure this is his built motor.
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oh, lol. then just re-ring and go on with life....
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Originally Posted by Colipto
I rolled the dice on the head gasket.. it was called evergreen, seemed like a Chinese forgery
Was it on a green board? Shipped from eBay for less then $30? If so then I don't think it is necessarily a HG issue. At least I have used 3-4 of that brand with zero issues in the past.

How did you break in the motor?
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Old 11-02-2016, 01:19 PM
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Originally Posted by hi_im_sean
Unfortunatly, I think you're right about rings. If it makes you feel any better, I did a rods only build for under $500. I can post the parts list if you get to that...
Eh.. i hope i can work something out with the shop that did the work if it is rings.

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Pretty sure this is his built motor.
Yes indeed it is..

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oh, lol. then just re-ring and go on with life....
That is my plan lol

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Was it on a green board? Shipped from eBay for less then $30? If so then I don't think it is necessarily a HG issue. At least I have used 3-4 of that brand with zero issues in the past.

How did you break in the motor?
https://www.flyinmiata.com/tech/breakin.php
couple of heavy throttle runs in third or fourth gear from about 2500-5500 rpm. Each time you hit 5500-6000 rpm, snap your foot off the gas and let the car coast down to 2500 rpm while in gear, to pull high vacuum in the cylinders.

This is what i did and changed the oil and started boosting, ever since i have been leaking from the tube

I also called up the machine shop and informed them the crankcase was being pressurized, seems like hes going to have the person who built it contact me.
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I usually follow something close to FM break in instructions. Usually in 2 or 3rd gear, ill rev to 3.5k then engine break down to 1000rpms. Then repeat by going up 1000 each time. It has worked well overall.

So yeah at this point I'm not sure. If you do re-ring it, I would say get it back on the road NA and break in the motor like that and drive for a while, then add back on the turbo. If you need caps for the oil feed or drain plug let me know and I can send some up.
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Okay... its not the headgasket.


would love an explanation as to how this happened.


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Walll, there's your problem right there. Bummer man. Been there.Piston 2 looks like a paperweight. Probably worth thinking about det sensor of some kind when you do the rebuild.
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Who did your tuning...
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Old 11-05-2016, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by wackbards
Walll, there's your problem right there. Bummer man. Been there.Piston 2 looks like a paperweight. Probably worth thinking about det sensor of some kind when you do the rebuild.
Yeah.. i noticed that immediately.... det sensor is def a good idea,

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Who did your tuning...
EFI express in Lee NH - I didnt re-tune after the bottom end build - but i was already turbo
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I would go somewhere else.
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Originally Posted by aidandj
I would go somewhere else.
I'm now planning that,.,,

Trying to figure out what to do from here...very unfortunate
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Is that a missing ringland I see on piston 2?
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Originally Posted by shuiend
Is that a missing ringland I see on piston 2?
piston 2 looks just like a subie top ringland failure. It just blew the top of the piston off where the metal is thinnest.

But the other piston heads have score marks on them that make me wonder if they've puked out some bits of ring too.

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How does your head look? did it get chewed up from metal bits?
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Originally Posted by shuiend
Is that a missing ringland I see on piston 2?
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piston 2 looks just like a subie top ringland failure. It just blew the top of the piston off where the metal is thinnest.

But the other piston heads have score marks on them that make me wonder if they've puked out some bits of ring too.
I looked at the head during the night and didnt see anything crazy but i will have to re-inspect and verify.

Piston 1 most likely is cracked or needs new rings and cylinder 2 piston blew off near top.

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How does your head look? did it get chewed up from metal bits?
Will need to go back and verify, hoping to have the motor out tomorrow and start the rebuild
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Old 11-08-2016, 01:38 PM
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Can you get decent pictures of each cylinder and piston?
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Originally Posted by shuiend
Can you get decent pictures of each cylinder and piston?

Sure, i'll post up some pics soon as i can with everything - Most likely towards the end of the week - I have a lot of cleaning to do in my work space area to continue this crazy build through the winter.

Black miata needs to go, almost have it stripped.

​​​​​​​ then the tent can go up!
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Sub'd good luck colipto!
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Engine / tranny has been pulled over the last 3 days ( I'm getting better / faster at this haha)

No scoring on the cylinder walls at all. Rings were seized in both cylinder 1 and 2 pistons most likely from too much heat from what my builder told me.. det seemed to come up alot during the convo.

Plan is to get injectors flow tested in a nearby place and proceed with block rebuild - I will also be finding a new tuner - i will hear more next week on the news of the total damage..

Now for pics.


Broken Piston in cylinder 2







Head Cylinder 2







Cylinder 1
Cylinder 2 piston
Cylinder 2 piston
Cylinder 3
Cylinder 3
Cylinder 4
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