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Old 03-05-2015, 10:28 AM   #1
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Current configuration is a mp62 hotside with over the rad fmic. I am running a rev built ms3 basic with rx8 yellows. Suspension is fatcat bilsteins and a hollow front rb sway.

I want to sell the hotside (at a later date) and build a turbo setup. Original plans were to buy an fm2 no electronics kit. That idea changed into just getting the hotside parts and a fab9 intercooler. Either do diy intercooler pipes or try and mod the fm pipes. FM pipes being more expensive but using less clamps = less failure points.

Now I am thinking artech mani, 3" downpipe and his 3" exhaust using a 5x11x22 magnaflow. I would still use either the fm2 intercooler kit or a fab9 with fm2 pipes or diy.

ATP makes a v band turbine housing for the gt2560r. I am looking at their v band turbine inlet and standard 5 bolt turbine exhaust. That way I can keep costs down (IWG) and reliability up. I am not building a track rat, just want a fun, reliable street machine at ~220-230rwhp.
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Current configuration.

Do most vendors sell only the gt2560r with the compressor housings that require adaptors? Not the end of the world as i will probably use the ones Vlad used in his build. They made by kinugawa and have reuseable o-rings.
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Made this on my swag offroad press brake. Not very pretty but allows me to mount my ms3 basic. Looks similar to the one sold at goodwin but diy style. Much better than the previous mount. Helper cat approved.
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Current configuration.

Do most vendors sell only the gt2560r with the compressor housings that require adaptors? Not the end of the world as i will probably use the ones Vlad used in his build. They made by kinugawa and have reuseable o-rings.
basically. you can find the "regular" compressor but is not common at all, and none of the common vendors had it. begi/fm actually machine the flanged ones and make them "standard"
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Some progress. Ordered some parts while i wait for Abe.
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Turbo oil feed from a sandwich adapter before the filter.....is this the preferred method now? I have a larger pressure aftermarket sender on the block feed. I am concerned the added weight could cause a failure at the T.
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Parts arrival. Fab 9 intercooler and a csf radiator.
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Harley (kiki or retard) playing in the vibrant box. This was entry #2 and not as far in. First round, he went in ALLTHEWAY.
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Fab 9 intercooler installed.



What do you guys do with this gap created from removing the inner black plastic piece? Thought about trimming it but i dont think much will be left. I cant leave the undertray unsecured in the middle?
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I trimmed mine and kept it. Vertical pieces still in place. Different FMIC, though.
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I am going to see what it looks like with bumper cover back on and decide from there. Back to stockish to get through the sniffer test.
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I am getting close to ordering a 2560r. ATP lists two different compressor housings. The first being a standard gt28r housing and the second being the compact gt25r housing. Which is the preferred? They don't picture them and google fails. I called and they said the picture of the polished housing is wrong and it is a generic photo.
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Emissions completed and I am back to running the ms3 basic in na mode. I have the factory IAT wired in and am getting some artificially high readings. This was after selecting the mazda sensor in the tools drop down menu. It was reading 84f and the car had been sitting for 24 hrs in my garage. Coolant was 62f and more in line with the current temps here.
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Sorry this build is going so slow. I have been working on my top fuel dragster. (doesn't everyone have one?)
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Parts arrival.
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I am getting close to ordering a 2560r. ATP lists two different compressor housings. The first being a standard gt28r housing and the second being the compact gt25r housing. Which is the preferred? They don't picture them and google fails. I called and they said the picture of the polished housing is wrong and it is a generic photo.
I MUCH prefer the compact housing. It's smaller, and has a tube for an inlet instead of the bolt on flange. the compact is the same one they have on the gt2554r. the other one is the standard with bolt in flanges for both inlet and out
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Emissions completed and I am back to running the ms3 basic in na mode. I have the factory IAT wired in and am getting some artificially high readings. This was after selecting the mazda sensor in the tools drop down menu. It was reading 84f and the car had been sitting for 24 hrs in my garage. Coolant was 62f and more in line with the current temps here.
I believe the correct one is the rx7 drop down, I'll have to check
better to just wire in the gm and stick it into the airbox for now though
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I ordered the standard housing already. I didnt know if there was a significant difference between the two and I wanted to be sure the fm pipes work with it. I just received both bolt on flanges, so no big deal there.

I have both sensor plugs wired to make the emissions swap easier. I'll try the rx7 setting first and if that doesnt work, then i'll figure out something for the gm sensor.

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I MUCH prefer the compact housing. It's smaller, and has a tube for an inlet instead of the bolt on flange. the compact is the same one they have on the gt2554r. the other one is the standard with bolt in flanges for both inlet and out


I believe the correct one is the rx7 drop down, I'll have to check
better to just wire in the gm and stick it into the airbox for now though
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Lots of progress this week. Decided to scrap the turbo and go with a cordless leaf blower. This model flows at least 3 to 5 cfm and should yield good upper rpm power. Spool is instant (well, instant when i pull the trigger). I wired in a pcpro to keep the intake temps under control. So excite!!!
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Trubo arrival.



I was not aware that fm used a special bpv. Order 20mm ts and end result. Can i make this work? Or is the answer, get correct bpv?
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I ported the wastegate today. Nothing like taking a dremel to a brand new part. Still a couple weeks away from Artech goodies arriving.
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