Originally Posted by ITOzann
(Post 1503709)
They are manufactured by Elmer Racing. Also, known for manufacturing full billet engines for WRC and WTAC (Thor)
https://cimg6.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...e1cd8fa7e0.jpg |
Subscribed, build looks sick so far
|
Originally Posted by RalliartRsX
(Post 1503723)
1500HP twin EFR turbo base engine right there Saw a dyno of it recently. Can't think of a better way to spend 125K :)
|
subd for what looks to be an epic build
|
Looks like cool build. Question, why the Motec? Top of the line ECU for sure. What does that unit bring to the table that you can't do with a MS? |
Originally Posted by Pconlon
(Post 1503948)
Looks like cool build. Question, why the Motec? Top of the line ECU for sure. What does that unit bring to the table that you can't do with a MS? |
Sub'd for SBGarage. You guys have worked on miata a few times already.
|
Which gearbox will you run? The Megasquirt has been working with a lot of gearboxes, including Samsonas and other very high end gearboxes.
|
Looked up that Elmer engine. Nuts. 4,000 cc 4 cylinder. They really need to improve their videos though, if they intend to use them as marketing.
|
Originally Posted by ITOzann
(Post 1503957)
DBW, traction control and native integration for a sequential trans are the main features. There are a lot more technical features that will be benefitial during the tuning process but in a nutshell you are comparing a motorsport grade management system versus a tuner solution.
|
Originally Posted by ITOzann
(Post 1503957)
DBW, traction control and native integration for a sequential trans are the main features. There are a lot more technical features that will be benefitial during the tuning process but in a nutshell you are comparing a motorsport grade management system versus a tuner solution.
I am curious as to your statement..." There are a lot more technical features that will be beneficial during the tuning process...". Can you elaborate? |
Originally Posted by Pconlon
(Post 1503999)
Yes, I reviewed the MoTec M130 specs (and price, ouch) and saw these features listed. Not sure they are applicable to this build.
I am curious as to your statement..." There are a lot more technical features that will be beneficial during the tuning process...". Can you elaborate? |
I don't see any bias, he was just asking a question. We all know the motec is a serious piece of hardware, we're just curious if you're really putting it to use in a miata, and how.
|
Originally Posted by ITOzann
(Post 1504018)
Is this your BIAS because of a quick Google search or previous experience about tuning cars with this engine management to notice the technical difference? Have you also investigated the firmware packages extending up to the developer features?
|
Nope, no bias from me, just curious. I have always herd that MoTec was the top of the food chain in ECU's... I just wondered why. i have no dog in this hunt. |
Let me point out a personal opinion before we derailed away from the point of this thread. Just because you can get a solution to work doesn't necessarily mean it's the best and it should be a universal application. Hardware characteristics on a Motec unit and also Firmware features is a topic that deserves its own thread for those that are so curious. I would suggest reading the complete public documentation manual for further judgment in terms of ROI; it's fun if you like technical things.
Anyhow, one of the main reasons why I picked up a Motec unit is because I can apply traction control strategies by utilizing a combination of wheel and driveshaft speed sensors. I plan to import raw data from the Motec unit into Matlab and implement a piece of code for slip values showing the highest acceleration values at different throttle position sensors. You can also extend this by adding GPS positioning data to control boost control settings and cross reference them with your TC mapping. I don't plan to meet a specific racing criteria for this build. In all honesty, it's a fun experimental project for pure joy. I have always been curious about the tech packages found in top level motorsports cars. It's a fascinating and the fact that I can't afford any of that got me annoyed for many years so I figured why not bring my ghetto version of it into a car I own. I could go on and on about describing other features where megasquirt falls behind but I don't want to end up sounding like a sales dude bashing on MS. I have been told moderators are pretty agressive on this board so I don't want to turn this thread into what could look like a marketing campaign. I noticed the dude's entry with the cool tubular turbo manifold picture is already gone. In term of the powertrain, I originally ordered a custom Quaife sequential for my ND. My ND won't be finished for a very long time since I plan to retrofit a M150 but I don't know a lot about DI implementation. It took over a year to fully implement the mapping for a turbo kit via the OEM ECU. I am honestly not confident on the project so I figure take my sweet ass time and order a spare bellhousing adapter and retrofit the same transmission into my MSM. |
Ok, thanks for the insight, again, sorry, I didn't mean to side track your excellent build thread. Cheers Pat |
This is one of the times i'd hope the mods won't bash you for talking about the additional features Motech has that MS does not. I can't imagine a majority of us over here would spend the extra dough for it even if it was worthwhile...Sticker shock when I saw it.
|
Originally Posted by skylinecalvin
(Post 1504044)
This is one of the times i'd hope the mods won't bash you for talking about the additional features Motech has that MS does not. I can't imagine a majority of us over here would spend the extra dough for it even if it was worthwhile...Sticker shock when I saw it.
I spent some time running an initial mock up for the turbo manifold. I am quite focused on making this setup removable on the fly. I am hoping to come across quick disconnect fittings for the turbo lines so the whole setup including the manifold, downpipe and intake pipe comes out on the fly. |
That Elmer billet merge/flange is definitely a beautiful piece but it's also big $$$ (250euro). I'm going with this piece from Treadstone. Investment cast stainless. I hope I don't regret my decision!
https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...9b26edf7b8.jpg Twin Scroll Merge Collector, 304 Stainless Steel- TREADSTONE PERFORMANCE |
All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:40 PM. |
© 2024 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands