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Eppic 11-08-2016 06:34 AM

The Eppic Offroadster
 
**Since Photobucket did it's thing you might not be able to see many of the pictures. If that's the case, try this. Worked for me. https://chrome.google.com/webstore/d...giikdkpmcpkaon
I'm using Imgur now**

Well, I needed a winter car. There's a whole pile of Miatas around here so I figured it would be easy to slap one together quickly. Well that's quickly turned into a "build a brand new car" build. Everything is getting stripped and refinished.
The plans for this are not just another cool Miata. No no. This will be another Eppic Miata. We say top secret but really, we get too excited and just want to share our creativity with people. Hopefully another week or so of hard work and this new project will be rolling.
Onto the pictures:

Sorting out what parts to use.
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Rebuilt steering rack
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Subframes out and getting ready for prep
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Stripping things right down to the are bones
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Had to move the shell out to sand blast the engine bay. Fastest way to get work done is just do it yourself.
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Parts go in the oven to be baked and gassed out before sandblasting and then powder coated.
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Subframe all cleaned up and ready for coating
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Interior is fully stripped.
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And the list continually grows larger and larger.
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psyber_0ptix 11-08-2016 06:46 AM

Golf clubs! RHD!

psyber_0ptix 11-08-2016 06:46 AM

What's the actual goal for the car?

Eppic 11-08-2016 06:48 AM

Blood orange, gold, and high gloss black
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Metallic Merlot
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That was a messy job. Fully sandblasted engine bay.

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Sandblasted and rustproofed the floor.

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Parts take up all 2 levels of the shop.
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Bed liner installed...
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psyber_0ptix 11-08-2016 06:49 AM

Grounding might be tricky

Eppic 11-08-2016 06:52 AM

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This is looking pretty good.

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Looking good all installed.

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slowly figuring things out and getting things in order. Biggest problem now is that I can't decided what I want to dip and what I want to powder coat.
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test fitting a dinky little 1.6L
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parts came in. Got them front wheels on loosely so I could roll her out of the shop. Have to work on some customers vehicles every now and again

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Front Calipers rebuilt and powder coated.
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Lots and lots of sandblasting.
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And more and more powder coating.
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Eppic 11-08-2016 06:55 AM

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looks pretty good mostly assembled.
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onto the rear. burn out the old bushings.
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more sand blasting and rust coating.
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Bed liner installed on the rear sub-frame and wiper cowel
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and the reassembly begins as I wait for the heavy cast parts to heat up enough to flow the powder.
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I had to throw the towel in on the sand blasting late afternoon before I was done cause it started snowing. Figured I'd go start planning where to build and igloo and keep my dog sled...

Crazy how that took 2 hours. That's just the top half. Haven't even got to the bottom half where the really gross stuff is. Tomorrow is going to be another long day of blasting. But then the hard stuff is over.

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​​​​​​​Rust coating applied. Hopefully tomorrow i can get the bed liner in there and start putting things back together soon.

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Eppic 11-08-2016 06:57 AM


Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1372771)
What's the actual goal for the car?

I live a couple miles down a gravel road and have had slammed miata's for years. This time we are going the other direction. ;)

psyber_0ptix 11-08-2016 06:58 AM

Why no roll bar?

Why 1.6L?

Why?

Eppic 11-08-2016 06:59 AM

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Slowly but surely things are getting coated and slowly coming back together.
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And bed liner is finally covering everything now.
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had to make it juuuuuuust right.
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well, It's been a while since I got anything productive done on this guy. I've been very sick the last week. Before that I spent a week converting part of my shop into a paint booth for winter, and had a whole lot of yard work and clean up to get done before winter is here, that's life eh. But alas today I finally got back at er a bit even though I'm still super sick.
Paint is starting to get applied to the parts that will be hydrodipped. I guess I'll let the secret out...

Camera's and fluorescent don't like each other so these pictures don't do justice. This stuff is BRIGHT!
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interesting thing happens with the camera when you turn the lights off.

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started getting the rear assembled. (temp shocks just to roll it around)
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apparently snow is due for next week wednesday. I better get a hustle on. Ol Spitty probably wont do to well in the snow. Turbo loves the snow though. Maybe I'll have to quickly build a dog sled and get him to pull me around in the mean time.
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psyber_0ptix 11-08-2016 07:02 AM

Much goggles
very 1.6L
many colors
So confuse
wow

Eppic 11-08-2016 07:05 AM


Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1372780)
Why no roll bar?

Why 1.6L?

Why?

roll bar and turbo are waiting to be installed. One thing at a time.

Why go higher instead of lower? Cause I can. Low doesn't work in winter when you have 8" of snow on the road. And living down gravel it does get a bit tedeous driving 25mph for a couple miles every time I leave my place. It's going to be a trophy truck Miata sort of look. Just with some Eppic flare to it. Matt at paco motorsports has done the dirty work I was planning and made a long arm kit for miata's. Go big or Go home. :bigtu:

psyber_0ptix 11-08-2016 07:11 AM

Why did you not cut the parcel shelf before coating it if you plan to roll bar?

What. Miata truck with a 1.6L?

Braineack 11-08-2016 07:25 AM

is this a build thread or a paint thread?

psyber_0ptix 11-08-2016 07:28 AM

I keep thinking of scraped knuckles whenever I see truck bed liner used in places on a car that requires work

Eppic 11-08-2016 07:30 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1372788)
is this a build thread or a paint thread?

It's coming. Gotta lay down a good base before you can get to the finished product. Seems nobody understands this till they see the finished product.

Eppic 11-08-2016 07:33 AM


Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1372785)
Why did you not cut the parcel shelf before coating it if you plan to roll bar?

What. Miata truck with a 1.6L?

Because winter is so close, I've had to make some sacrifices on how things get built. Don't have the time to do everything before the snow falls up here in Canadia. Roll bar I have is a bolt in. and turbo kit I have is for a 1.6L. Right now the plan is to just get it driving so next week I'm still able to go buy groceries. Sounds like 7-8" of snow is coming next week wednesday.

psyber_0ptix 11-08-2016 07:35 AM

Ok, as much as I rag on the 1.6L (I used to have one too) I understand the imperative of getting something running for use (assuming you have no other daily vehicle that can handle conditions).

Still a lot of time and prep merely to get something snow worthy. You could easily just replace the motor right now while you're at it.

You're still probably going to be cutting that freshly coated package tray to get the roll bar in. But you already knew that.

Eppic 11-08-2016 07:40 AM


Originally Posted by psyber_0ptix (Post 1372797)
Ok, as much as I rag on the 1.6L (I used to have one too) I understand the imperative of getting something running for use (assuming you have no other daily vehicle that can handle conditions).

Still a lot of time and prep merely to get something snow worthy. You could easily just replace the motor right now while you're at it.

You're still probably going to be cutting that freshly coated package tray to get the roll bar in. But you already knew that.

One of my parts cars has a freshly rebuilt 1.6L in it and picking up another parts car this weekend with a turbo. Figured I'd mash them together.

yes been there done that.
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sixshooter 11-08-2016 03:47 PM

I'm intrigued by your color choices. You don't look Filipino.

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Good luck with the project. Cool dog, by the way.

Eppic 11-08-2016 06:12 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1372946)
I'm intrigued by your color choices. You don't look Filipino.

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Good luck with the project. Cool dog, by the way.

All that bright colored stuff is going to be hydrodipped. (I started a hydrographics business last christmas) It will all come together in the end.

Eppic 11-09-2016 12:34 AM

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The fun is starting to happen. Dipped a few parts this evening....
This is not cleared yet. you guys get to see the raw uncut first images of what's coming down the tubes for the engine bay.

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Braineack 11-09-2016 07:54 AM

based on your color scheme this is going to be one cool dirtbike when youre done.


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ryansmoneypit 11-09-2016 08:01 AM

1988 called, They want their screw-driver-splatter paint scheme back.

PS. how is the belt going to like riding on the painted ridges of the pulley? wont it slip? Real question.

Onyxyth 11-09-2016 08:44 AM

I'm not sure why everyone is giving this guy shit. He's gettin' shit done and posting content. I think the hydrofilm dip is pretty neat.

The 1.6 is a mistake though, obviously.

sixshooter 11-09-2016 08:57 AM

I'm enjoying the build and the updates. I wish I was doing more of anything to the car right now.

mgeoffriau 11-09-2016 10:27 AM

Weird build thread is weird.

I'm still enjoying it, though.

viperormiata 11-09-2016 10:28 AM

#1.6pride

Eppic 11-09-2016 11:32 AM

I build my car for what I like and not what you like. That's why you build your car the way you like. :) So haters can hate all they want. Doesn't bother me. I'm entertained by what people come up with. (as for the colors. The gold is the thing that I don't think fits. I had a customer order a ton of gold powder and they never showed up so i've been looking for an excuse to use that powder. I plan a bigger brake upgrade in the future anyway so I don't expect that color to stay there.)

I'm not fond of the 1.6 either but i'm in a time of need as winter is ever close. I have a rebuilt engine and a turbo kit sitting around not being used, I may as well put it to use. Power means relatively little long term anyway. Gearing is where your power does anything. I was talking to one of my renters this morning about his srt8 that has 400 whatever hp and his semi that has 500hp. He's not going to pull 70,000lbs with his srt8 now is he? It's all relative to what you're using it for. Maybe one day it will get a bigger motor. Clearly this car is getting built to last so when the time comes for that day, it's not really a big deal. Gets me around from a-b and draws people in when you pop the hood. That's what it's being built for.

As for the belt slip issue. I've never run a belt on a painted surface. I honestly don't know what it will do. I imagine it will rub off on the parts that make contact. That's fine. I like to experiment with things. If it rubs off it rubs off. If it stays on then it's cooler. I expect the valleys and peaks to keep their paint giving the pulley a neat look of just a touch of that neon showing through. I guess we'll see what happens there.

Thanks to the guys who are enjoying the build. I appreciate how you recognize the value of "getting work done". Hopefully get a ton more stuff dipped today and cleared. still need to route fuel and brake hard lines. Sit down and dissect wire harnesses. Oh and paint the car... that's gotta happen at some point.
The exterior plans are far beyond what most probably imagine. I plan to go with a mad max type theme. Not quite so... flamboyant though. Just enough badassery that it's cool but yet still resembles a miata. If it wasn't illegal to mount guns on your car... I'd totally have a 50cal on a swivel mounted on the roof! haha I can dream. We'll see what develops as the build continues. :) Maybe we'll even hit sema one of these years. That be neat.

Braineack 11-09-2016 11:37 AM


Originally Posted by Eppic (Post 1373176)
I'm entertained by what people come up with. (as for the colors.

good, it's fun for us too.

ryansmoneypit 11-09-2016 01:37 PM

Dont get upset, we are laughing with you.

18psi 11-09-2016 01:45 PM

I actually liked his little speech, and don't even mind all the crazy colors cause he's doing it right and powdercoating rather than just sploshing paint on everything.

Then he used the word "haters" and I lost hope again.

x_25 11-09-2016 03:20 PM

In for epicness, I love it so far.

DNMakinson 11-09-2016 04:30 PM

Watching, and maybe learning. Entrepreneur-ism is great.

ryansmoneypit 11-09-2016 05:24 PM

I actually like the gold calipers. I had gold set for mine, but I chickened out and went with silver.

fivehundredton 11-09-2016 05:49 PM

You Keep on Truckin' son.

Eppic 11-10-2016 02:18 AM

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Today I was busy. The weather was warm and I got in my groove and before I knew it... this just kinda happened. Not cleared yet. This is still freshly dipped and rinsed. Can't find my sungalsses anywhere...

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Eppic 11-10-2016 01:40 PM

imovie on my phone gave me some super chessy music to work with...


Eppic 11-10-2016 06:42 PM

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Today's compiled list of activites include...

powder coated rear calipers and all their parts
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parts are hunger and ready for clear. Found out I forgot a couple parts today so lets call this batch #uno (doing that this evening)
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And lets see if we can't get these guys installed while clear coat dries on the parts in the booth.
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picking up another miata tomorrow evening and then if all goes well, Plan is for the car to be together and running by the end of the weekend. One last hard push and I should be able to knock out the majority of the work to get it mobile under it's own power again.

Eppic 11-13-2016 12:48 AM

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This morning began the strip down of the turbo parts miata I picked up last night. Radar was quick to investigate the interior and sniff out all the curious smells.
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Turbo on the other hand here laid claim to this being his car.
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which then led to the coolest miata ever. Twin Turbo with state of the art 12 year old radar navigation system...
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It's got an old fm turbo kit and burns oil like mad. Probably doesn't help that the vent breather is being used as the oil cap... There's oil EVERYWHERE from that as this engine has some major blow-by. Lets hope just the engine is toast and the turbo is still good. (not my dog. He's super good!)
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Had some young aspiring lads who want to learn the automotive world come and volunteer to help disassemble this miata. They may not know a lot or work quickly, but I enjoy teaching them and watching them learn how to work on cars and i find a lot of value in helping someone understand how things on a car work so when their car breaks that have a better sense of what's actually happening. Gives them a good sense of pride. :)
This also allows me to get the complex stuff done like reassembling a power steering pump without scratching it as it's been powder coated and hydrodipped.
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Bumpers, Doors, seats, and they started on the roll bar before we called it a day.
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Sandblasted all these suckers by hand as my parts tumbler from eastwood never showed up. Then painted them That was tedious.
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I was busy working on reassembling calipers and master cylinders and getting things ready on the motor to install.
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And throughout the day we pleasantly enjoyed finding a plethora of interesting artifacts the previous owner cared not to remove from his vehicle before selling it...
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Tomorrows goals...
-assemble motor completely and install into car
-pull driveline from parts miata and install into built miata
-hook it all up and at least get it running and driving

Snow is imminent any day now. Gotta push major hard for another week and hopefully knock this thing out the door so I have something to drive. Body will have to get finished at a later date and work is kinda backing up more and more now that this new work whip is top priority.

viperormiata 11-13-2016 11:43 AM

That is one big ol' pupper

Lokiel 11-13-2016 07:30 PM

Parting out the moustache wax?

Eppic 11-13-2016 08:28 PM

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Pounded out a bunch more stuff today. My volunteers showed up again. They got the roll cage out.
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I blasted and painted even more bolts as I realized I needed them for different areas of the car.
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And this is where I end the day today. I had a goal of getting it running but... I spent a ton of time looking for misc gaskets and seals for this that and the other.
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Ryan_G 11-13-2016 09:20 PM


Originally Posted by Eppic (Post 1374247)

This contrast hurts my eyes. I love that you're really going over everything but the color choices are crazy. I feel like if it was just the valve cover and top of the intake manifold I could handle it. But right holy hell is that engine bay bright as hell.

Eppic 11-14-2016 12:27 AM

ya that intake did a bit more then I was expecting. I think once the charge pipes are on it will help break things up a bit. I'm going to powder them blood orange too. We'll see. I can always change it.

Braineack 11-14-2016 08:21 AM

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Eppic 11-14-2016 11:28 PM

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And on today's list we have....

One super oiley turbo charged engine and tranny being removed. This engine probably ranks highest on the most oil covered engine I've ever pulled out of a vehicle in the 11 years I've been doing this job. Previous owner said it burns just a little bit of oil... :trollface:
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The ol not so top secret miata lurkin in the back waiting for parts.
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And we have a gold clutch! Does that mean it's worth more? Anyone know what them little weights are stuck to the springs? Aftermarket on the aftermarket to give more clamping pressure?
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Bits and bobs being reassembled. I think I may have painted and dipped the wrong master cylinder resivoir because it's not fitting to well and I've checked the 6 other miata's I have and none of them have a resivoir that looks like that. UGH!
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Getting lots of you guys checking out the website and facebook page and sending me little encouragements. Appreciate it. Gives me a bit of extra motivation when you guys are excited about this thing too. :)

stefanst 11-14-2016 11:46 PM


Originally Posted by Eppic (Post 1374573)
And on today's list we have....

One super oiley turbo charged engine and tranny being removed. This engine probably ranks highest on the most oil covered engine I've ever pulled out of a vehicle in the 11 years I've been doing this job. Previous owner said it burns just a little bit of oil... :trollface:
[...]

Previous owner was not trolling you. If the engine had been burning oil in addition to all that leakage it would have been dry. So it was indeed not burning much....

Eppic 11-15-2016 12:29 AM

oh the rings are very very blown out. You could fill a balloon in seconds off the vent tube of the v/c. It's most certainly burning AND leaking oil.

adryargument 11-15-2016 05:20 AM

God that engine bay looks like it has a few interestingly wrapped christmas presents in it.
Then again its one of the better threads i have seen lately. :bowrofl:

viperormiata 11-15-2016 02:53 PM

Can't even hate because you work 10x faster than I do.

Only real dislike is the red. Black would have been a little more understated in contrast to the yellow.

Eppic 11-19-2016 09:50 PM

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No windshield proves to be handy. Got her running today.
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Well, today she fired up. Now just to get the rest of things in order.

Eppic 11-20-2016 06:34 PM

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When you got deadlines and an oven for powder coating... you work and eat at the same time.
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Grabbing parts as I need them. Almost done everything underneath the car. Brake lines are done. Exhaust is in. Driveline is in. Fuel lines in.
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We're close. Was hoping to drive it out today under it's own power but I had to stop early as I forgot I had other plans this evening.
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fivehundredton 11-20-2016 08:00 PM

I like what you're doing. The color contrast is almost violent. Like maybe something biological is happening under the hood that needs an eye kept on it. :)

Eppic 11-22-2016 11:58 PM

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Started stripping the wheels for this car.
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The snow came today. I had to enable the Winter Shark unfortunately. Stretched tires and snow = 5th gear 100km/h burn outs down the highway. :D
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Parts everywhere as the build is frantically being assembled.
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I keep thinking I'm almost there. Just this and that left... Then I add more to my list. Downside of having ADHD. In your head your pretty much done, then you go look at your list again and go "oh wait... I forgot this and this and this and this" BAH! I just want to drive this thing already.
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And I finished fabbing some metal brackets that do things. Painted them. Now you can watch them dry. You'll see what those are for later!
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Car does run and drive. Just haven't put it on the ground yet. Maybe tomorrow it will get a mobility test. Have a few more fabricating things to construct yet. Like limiting straps...............

Eppic 11-23-2016 07:31 PM

Well.... It moves under it's own power. Apparently this engine needs a little help. But we are one step closer to stage one of this build being complete.


Forrest95M 11-23-2016 10:55 PM

"Yo dawg I heard you like dipped things, so I dipped your dipped things!"
In all seriousness you work faster than probably half this website combined, good content, keep it up
I like the piktars

Eppic 11-25-2016 02:06 AM

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Windshield is in. Didn't get much done on the car today. After 2 weeks of 16 hour days working on this thing my body finally said "ENOUGH". I went to eat supper and fell asleep immediately following. (This never ever ever ever happens due to ADHD.)

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Looking like we are moving on to interior assembly next. Then body panels and lights and we call that stage 1 complete. Maybe by the end of the weekend?

sixshooter 11-25-2016 11:59 AM

It would be possible to do a 3/4 inch body lift kit on the Miata by putting spacers between the body ans subframe at the mounting points. The steel brake lines appear to have enough length to work with minimal bending. You may desire a shifter lever extender and shock extender bolts if you go much higher than that.

Eppic 11-25-2016 01:15 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1377085)
It would be possible to do a 3/4 inch body lift kit on the Miata by putting spacers between the body ans subframe at the mounting points. The steel brake lines appear to have enough length to work with minimal bending. You may desire a shifter lever extender and shock extender bolts if you go much higher than that.

I have bigger plans then that. :D


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