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dc2696 04-26-2010 01:01 PM

FE3 Swap
 
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Well I started my swap the other week but things were slow so I didnt feel like posting anything just yet.

For now all you get is this pic via shitty Iphone camera:

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I'll add more later as I have a final in an hour.

-Dean

dc2696 04-26-2010 01:04 PM

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Ok one more pic for now, presenting the shortest fucking oil pan ever made! (half complete atm)

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gospeed81 04-26-2010 01:05 PM

Awesome.

Fuck finals.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 04-26-2010 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by gospeed81 (Post 562820)
Awesome.

Fuck finals.

+1 :vash:

shlammed 04-26-2010 06:39 PM

you have ray charles weld your oil pan? :P

Stoked to see this come together!

dc2696 04-26-2010 09:50 PM


Originally Posted by shlammed (Post 563077)
you have ray charles weld your oil pan? :P

Stoked to see this come together!

:fawk:

The outside welds will be ground smooth, then everything plasted and powdercoated, should look half decent then lol.

p51hellfire 04-26-2010 10:32 PM

so in reality how much "modifying" is required to install this motor?? you have a to-do list at all??

frostyllama 04-26-2010 10:54 PM

that is sexy awesome

wayne_curr 04-26-2010 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by p51hellfire (Post 563241)
so in reality how much "modifying" is required to install this motor?? you have a to-do list at all??

Intake manifold
Space subframe
Motor mounts
Customize oil pan
Transmission adapter trickery

johnmatt 04-27-2010 02:35 PM

I wish I would have known about these engines before I ordered all my 1.6 parts. Good luck with the build

curly 04-27-2010 02:45 PM

For us non morons, what the eff is an FE3 motor and why do we like it?

johnmatt 04-27-2010 02:48 PM

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mazda_FE-DOHC_engine

Jeff_Ciesielski 04-27-2010 02:51 PM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 563701)
For us non morons, what the eff is an FE3 motor and why do we like it?

Short and sweet:
Its the mazda version of the 4g63 (in terms of beefiness)

Stock shortblock that can handle 400hp reliably? Yes please.

Sparetire 04-27-2010 02:57 PM

4G63s have handled around 600Hp on stock internals. Had to rep for old platform ;)

But yeah, a 400WHP Miata on a junkyard shortblock is sorta of the best thing ever.

Windage tray and baffles in one FTW, great stuff OP.

curly 04-27-2010 03:16 PM


Originally Posted by Jeff_Ciesielski (Post 563709)
Its the mazda version of the 4g63

Eh?

WonTon 04-27-2010 03:20 PM

more pics now damint!

what cars did this motor come from in the states? kia? i read up on what cars it came in overseas...curious bout here.

gospeed81 04-27-2010 04:14 PM

Kia Sportage motor, every where for ~$500-700 bucks.

Larger diameter crank and rod bearing journals, head flows like the '99 BP head, and they've actually been pushed to 500-600whp stock.

If you want to forgo a tranny adapter right now you can mate the B2000 bellhousing to a Miata 5spd, just stay under 250whp. The motor mounts are 6 holes in a 1/2" steel plate, and I think mr2cars1cup got away without shimming the subframe by shaving the hood bracing.

This leaves just a few hard parts:

-Custom/Hybrid aluminum intake mani
-Fit optical Miata CAS to distributor setup on FE3 or make custom crank trigger
-clutch/flywheel/PP setup

I had a local guy I found on CL that was goingto sell me an FE3, with both stock manifolds (intake flange useful, and stock exhaust is a nice, but heavy, piece that points in the right direction to go n/a in a miata until turbo setup ironed out), AND a B2000 tranny for $750. I soooo should have taken the plunge.

WonTon 04-27-2010 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by gospeed81 (Post 563775)
Kia Sportage motor, every where for ~$500-700 bucks.

Larger diameter crank and rod bearing journals, head flows like the '99 BP head, and they've actually been pushed to 500-600whp stock.

If you want to forgo a tranny adapter right now you can mate the B2000 bellhousing to a Miata 5spd, just stay under 250whp. The motor mounts are 6 holes in a 1/2" steel plate, and I think mr2cars1cup got away without shimming the subframe by shaving the hood bracing.

This leaves just a few hard parts:

-Custom/Hybrid aluminum intake mani
-Fit optical Miata CAS to distributor setup on FE3 or make custom crank trigger
-clutch/flywheel/PP setup

I had a local guy I found on CL that was goingto sell me an FE3, with both stock manifolds (intake flange useful, and stock exhaust is a nice, but heavy, piece that points in the right direction to go n/a in a miata until turbo setup ironed out), AND a B2000 tranny for $750. I soooo should have taken the plunge.


yeah you should have!

thanks for the info.....this could be a possible option for me one day.

m2cupcar 04-27-2010 04:29 PM


Originally Posted by Sparetire (Post 563715)
But yeah, a 400WHP Miata on a junkyard shortblock is sorta of the best thing ever.

I want to go there. :D On a LINK. :laugh:

I'm going to throw up a build thread since the new chassis will have the FE3 driveline in it this year. :giggle:

Oh- and I did shim for the sake of getting the car on the road and not dropping the subframe. BUT if "you" remember that Datsun truck with the BP swap- he did a great job of trimming and reinforcing the crossover part of the subframe to gain a good amount of clearance. I think that's all that needs to be done to get the engine under the hood w/o shimming using a similar oil pan depth as above. You'd just need to adjust the motor mounts by "that" about to drop the engine.

WonTon 04-27-2010 04:30 PM

can i come help?

i want to get some in person experiences with it if i ever deiced to do this swap.


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