Damn it, your shit confuses me :)

he wouldn't have it any other way.

Sowwy guise. I'm considering one for the MX6 not necessarily for power, but for elegance. That's where the confusion is coming from.

I know what to buy for Miata. MX6 is more complicated because budget is more important, and pnp is not wanted.

Almost afraid to ask. Why is mspnp pro better than ms3 basic?

Just get the MSPNPpro. It will bring all the boys to the yard.

Unless i'm missing something it's based on the MS3 Pro, and the MS3 Basic is based on the MS3. ;)

This thing is almost as nice as the MSM was, right? :giggle:

Too late, ordered ms3 basic yesterday!

What exactly does this mean in reality? I was the coolest kid yesterday, but not today?

Pretty much. You still got a badass ecu. :)

your ECU comes in a sexier case. That's all that really matters.

The MS3P has a lot of improved circuits (power supply and crank signal come to mind) and it integrates a lot of the circuits that had to be proto'ed on the older MS units (like alternator control).

The Basic MS3 also has a switching power supply and whatnot. There are minor differences between the two ECUs but not something groundbreaking.

oh right, ms3b is one of yours, I should not have presumed that it had all the same circuitry as a normal ms3 with miata customization.

btabor and i finished the brakes last night finally. One fitting is leaking very slightly, the annoying part is that this is the ONE that we didn't flare. Will address that this weekend, but it was safe enough to drive home.

Impressions/findings:

1) EBC Yellows are pretty much fucking awful for the street.

2) I need to get the actual caliper/brake pad hardware (shims and shit) for the Sport brakes. The hacked up normal stuff we used i think is making some annoying noises.

3) The brake pedal feels fucking awesome. Extremely stiff, but still easy to drive on the street, despite the EBC Yellows not stopping worth a fuck until they're nice and hot.

4) No way in HELL this car has a stock clutch and flywheel. Revs stupid fast, and the clutch is pretty grabby. I was going to swap them out this Spring with the 1.6 setup, but i think i'll just let it ride for this season, go to some pimp shit when the next motor goes in over the winter.

Pics. I can do a complete write up for the Wilwood install along with dimensions for new lines and fittings used if there's interest. I don't want to see anyone else go through what we did for this setup.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1426684504Brake lines for Wilwood Master cylinder again by concealer404, on Flickr

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1426684504Brakes finished by concealer404, on Flickr

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1426684504View of brake hydraulics by concealer404, on Flickr

Just ordered the rest of my "budget" Bilstein setup that isn't so budget anymore.

Full parts list:

MSM bilsteins w/ mounting clip moved down 1"
Custom extended top hats
Hyperco CO6-600 front springs
Hyperco CO6-400 rear springs
Hyperco CS100 tenders
Wide Open Motorsports tender perches
Spec Miata sleeves/perches
Integra Speedthane bumpstops

Will use with 1.25" RB front bar w/ 3 piece bracing system, 949Racing endlinks, and ES poly bushings everywhere.


Why spend so much on a budget setup? Because it puts me in a damn good place if i want to revalve another set of Billies and move to a 700-800/400 spring setup.

I decided after working on your brake lines that I'm not touching any brakes for a long time! specially after flaring the same line twice forgetting to put the fitting in first...I mean, we weren't even drunk.

I bet that was the problem. I'll bring liquor next time.

lol the problem is also the solution

I did not and still do not enjoy working with hard lines and whatnot. I've noticed that the quality of the flaring tool you have makes an enormous difference. I've also noticed that non factory flares like to be tightened down to hell the first time at the very least.

fwiw with the eastwood tool moti has it's really easy... still a pita.

The hydraulic one from eastwood is real nice you cant over flare with it. I wish I bought that one instead of the hand style one for AN flares.

Yeah... i think i'm going to order a Mastercool set before i attempt to fix the leaker. I've tightened it as much as i feel comfortable, and it won't stop.

Was thinking about looking into that. Maybe i will.