I was told to bring this thread over here. Blame Fireindc.
 

Bye bye babe, it's been real.
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So now we've got this thing. It's swaggerific. It's red. It's got a BP. It has a soft top. It has a stock suspension. Basically, it's everything i hate about Mazdas, all rolled up into one convenient package of hate.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1395168947


Lookin' fresh.
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Lookin' Miata.net. Dat red. Dat 4x4. Dem Toyo T1Rs. (The pinnacle of modern-day tire performance!)
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Yes, you see a thing peaking out from the bumper. That's known as "an intercooler." I don't know what it does, but Corky Bell likes them, so they must be good. Corky Bell is the Lord and Savior of Miatas.

So much Corky Bell swag. Truly this is the envy of all of miata.net. The BPV crossover tube doesn't work particularly well, nor is it designed well, but dayummm it sure looks GOOD rattling around in the bay, doesn't it?
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"EW!" the crowds proclaim. "This is awful compared to Swank Force Racing's other #shitted productions! Where's the boost? The power? The insanity! This is tame, and mostly done RIGHT! WHERE IS THE FAIL?!?!? THIS BORES US!!"
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1395169056

Alright, so here's what we're working with:

Vehicle: 1995 Miata
Color: Arrest Me Red
Miles: 141k on chassis, 20k on motor


Modifications:
AMS built motor with ~20k miles on it
JE 9.0:1 pistons
Eagle rods
ARP hardware throughout
Ported and polished 99 BP4W head
Flyin' Miata Stage 1 clutch
Fidanza flywheel
Toyota COPs (Replaced with OEM Denso units less than 1000 miles ago)
Begi GT2554 kit (Manifold thermal coated) HAHAHAH 2554r on a built motor. SEEMS LEGIT.
Begi turbo heat shield
Begi Intercooler/piping kit
Begi "race" coolant re-route
FM 2.5" downpipe - Thermal coated
Enthuza 3" exhaust
RX8 yellow top injectors
M-Tuned fuel rail
Walbro 255hp pump
Megasquirt 2 Enhanced PNP (Brain Built). Sequential fuel, "gslender A/C idle up" circuitry/code.
Koyo 37mm radiator
AEM wideband
AEM water temp
AEM boost gauge (sending unit may be toast, currently running a cheap autometer) All AEM gauges are the silly expensive ones with stepper motor shits.
15x8 949 6ULs
Mazda Competition motor mounts
Slotted rotors
Hawk pads
SS braided brake lines
SS braided clutch line

Interior
Pioneer headunit of some kind
Aftermarket speakers of some kind (headrest speakers work)
IL Motorsport center console (baller!)
Momo Competition wheel and hub
IL Motorsport chrome door handle cups

Exterior:
R-lip thingy.
Some fruity NB aftermarket swoopy miata.net-loves-penis wing.


Does it all work? Yeah. Somehow. Makes magic numbers. (Lurve me some Disneyjet)
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1395169056

THE PLAN:
Drive until MX6 is back on the road and dialed in. Then probably sell.

Things to do in the meantime to make it a better car and get more money out of it:
1) Rip out and sell stupid BeGi "Racer" Re-Route because it's a pile of shit.
2) Install homebrew coolant re-route for much glory. Purchased
3) Rebuild shifter. Currently shifts like garbage. Turns out probably because shot hydraulics and because FM clutch
4) New fluids e'er'wurr. Trans, diff, hydraulics, coolant, oil, herp derp.
5) Detail
6) Ghettofab a suspension



Step #6 begins.

Bought some low mileage MSM Bilsteins from NastyNate.
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#3
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#4. (Amsoil dealer, y0)
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Back to #6: SUSPENSION INTENSIFIES
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Waiting to come in:
1) NB top hats
2) Another set of Fleabay sleeves and springs in a different rate
3) 7" 550lb QA1 springs, 7" 400lb QA1 springs (Will probably run these on the sleeves shown above)
4) Hackjob Summit Racing FCM 36/36 bumpstop copies
5) Clutch master and slave cylinders from 949Racing
6) Shifter rebuild kit from Moss Miata
7) 5X Racing bronzoil shift bushing


Need to source:
1) Big front bar
2) Fancy endlinks
3) ISC/FM top hats


Need to do:
1) Clean up some minor wiring things concerning Megasquirt and the AEM wideband, as well as an aftermarket alarm and keyless entry, neither of which i have the key FOB for, so they need to go. Should be fun.
2) Tune for moar bewsts. Currently seeing about 12.5psi at max, i'm told this turbo should be able to hold 16psi to redline on this car, so we're going to see what that's like.


Need to clean up wiring stuff because this:
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LOL @ 2554 on a built motor. Also, LOL at a BP.

Seriously though.. remove the wing, get a real turbo on it, and dial in the suspension. A few simple tweaks and this thing could be pretty mean.

+props for manning up and bringing this thread home.

A turbo change is not likely in this car's future unless i find someone wanting to do a straight trade for a 2560/2860 for the 2554, if i must be honest. It runs pretty strong as is and i'm not really interested in drastically altering the car. I'm more interested in making what's there not suck. :bowrofl:

Thenuge and i took it for a rape pull or two on Saturday and well.... it's stupid strong for a 2554 car. I think i'll be good with just finding out what another 4lbs or so of boost does.


I'm more using this car to get a "feel" for what a "proper" Miata might feel like. Hence, the suspension work coming. Yes, i know it's a cheap-ass half-assed suspension plan, but i don't care. I'm just looking for a taste of what's to come with the 93. :)

Join me in 2860ness! Or go EFR! ;)

You, sir... have missed the point of this "build." :party:

Basically, after the suspension stuff, if it's not $free.99 or close to $free.99, i'm not doing it. :dealwithit::fawk:


I have another Miata to mess with. But first, i have a daily driver to get back on the road, another GRM $2014 Challenge car to finish, a race car to build a new motor for. THEN the other Miata gets glory. And it will be glorious. I expect it all to leave a terrible taste in your mouth, but the kind of terrible that interests you, the kind that you refuse to swallow, but yet can't bring yourself to spit.

GENTLEMEN, BEHOLD:
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Oh, we know EXACTLY what you are talking about ;)

Any vids of this thing yet? I bet a 2554 at or near sea level would be a hoot. Mine is even a blast way up here at 7k elevation, but as always i need moar (hence the 2860 sitting on my workbench next to my torn down shortblock).

Edit: wait, is that blue car your other miata? I like.

dat blue doe

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1395171310

No vids yet. Suppose this weekend after the clutch hydraulics replacement and fluids job, i can see if the old mount we were using on the MSM roll bar works on the cockpit brace thing on the NA.


And yes, that blue car is the other Miata. It doesn't look much like that any more. It's merely a shadow of its former stuff. It's on steelies just to roll around on, has no driveline (sold it to a nice kid for a 6 pack pretty much), no top, and stock suspension. (Thank god.)


F2T glory, V8R rear end, and FD RX7 trans incoming. I have a 60psi boost gauge that needs to be maxed out.


Dat honda blue doe

Got pumping things from Emilio. Guess now i can swap all fluids and replace these shits this weekend and see if that helps the 1st/reverse thing at all.

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To much swagmiata and not enough cats.

Whoa man. You freaked out my cat.

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just a thought, if youre having serious difficulty going into reverse check and see if the reverse switch was overtightened into the tranny, curly and I found that we accidentally did this on a miata that we flipped and it made it extremely difficult to get the car into reverse.

Is there a 1st gear switch that would potentially be overtightened as well?

Props just for the fact that if I have problems when my car can move I'll remember reading this.:makeout:

Sub'd so I can harass you.

That's fun. Make me cry. And PM me with price you need for those purple things.

So... couple things.

Guess i don't need to be shopping for a front sway bar anymore. Looked in the car, and it's got one. It's big, and red, and has red bushings. No idea what it is, but it's not stock. I'll leave it. Stock rear bar is on there, so i'll probably try to source an MSM unit.

And here's a picture for EO2K and Erat. NA8 FPR on VICS manifold. M-Tuned rail. ALL THE ROOM. (Anybody know where i can get a blockoff for this? I need to replace the soft fuel lines in the bay anyways, and i have an Aeromotive 13109 laying around.)

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Sorry man, I've been slacking on getting your logs up. At least now there's a place to put them.

I'm surprised that you've got yellow top injectors in there (never mind I see they're 440cc I thought they were 550). I know it was running 11.3 AFR in boost, but I wouldn't think running that rich would cause them to run out of steam as early as they did. The logs showed 80-something percent duty cycle at only 6000rpm.

If you've got a wally 255 though you should be able to get enough extra fuel pressure to deal with it once you get that FPR installed.

No worries dude. Until now. GET THAT SHIT UP!!! :bowrofl:

I think the yellows are 420cc. But, i'm sure with some more pressure that they could easily handle, they'll support anything the 2554 will throw at it, especially since it's a bit rich at the moment anyways.

I figure i gotta replace those hoses anyways, and since M-Tuned rail, should be cake to ram some AN lines everywhere.

I wholeheartedly approve of this thread. You will do this car many more justices than I did as its owner.

Now I just need to start my own for the MSM. Blouch MSM ALLOFIT build.

Blouch ALLOFIT vs. 2554r ALLOFIT to see who achieves the least glory?


I think i need to take the manifold and turbo off and have the mating surface machined. It's leaking there. Sadface. I'M MISSING OUT ON SPOOL

there is no glory in either of those weenie turbo's :laugh:

but yeah cool thread and finally you have a build thread here instead of always posting random pictures and random info in random places and like a spaz :giggle:

For most glorys I must find a dynojet. The dyno I use is a super low calibrated Mustang which gives me no glorys.

Also, don't be dumb.

I think maybe i should actually just bring the threads for the other cars over here as well. You guys are smarter than most of the other forums i post on, and i like active feedback instead of "WOW BRO DATS LIKE SO KEWL!" or "GEE YOU MUST BE RICH, I SCRAPE MONEY TO PAY FOR OIL CHANGES" or whatever the hell people post on the threads elsewhere.


Will you all be offended if i move the MX6 over here? :bowrofl:

Personally, I'd love if you brought your builds over here. I love laughing at your ancient electronic doohickies and epic KLZE fails :bowrofl:

Seriously though, DO IT.

Do it.

I am thinking about bringing the Volvo over here too. Many angries will be had if peoples see my old shitty tractor engine with ALL ebay parts putting down ~300 rwhp with 26 psi on a stock bottom end and no fuel management.

No seriously, it's got a pre-turbo exhaust leak. Figure fix that, get VICS up and running, enjoy an extra 500rpms of turbo boosting?

I doubt it will be that much. I'm in for dyno sheets before/after though.

Did you really have someone else hook up their computer to the MS to log?

Yes. I haven't really had a bunch of time to get set up and familiar with the software yet.

I didn't want to be driving around, trying to force this bitch into 1st gear at every stop light, and trying to figure out where the hell everything is in the software all at the same time.

Needs a little work, i'll work on it this weekend. We got the idle to not be so crazy rich, but now it's a little lean for my comfort level cruising at fast highway speeds sometimes. I think we may have miscalculated the cells this thing hangs out in a little bit.

Autotune.

Yeah, yeah. We weren't concerned with cruising AFRs at the time because they were perfect.

And i've read on here that you shouldn't bother attempting to autotune idle. :rofl:

Fire's thread turned into a Subaru thread for nearly 6 months, so why not?

Site name should change to "Bunch of A-Holes That Think They Know Cars and Sometimes Make Lucky Guesses.net."

LOL, this only happened because I got more help from my thread here than on the 3 different subaru forums I'm a member of combined. Seriously, i shit you not.

i love you guys.

I didn't adjust anything near where you would be cruising on the highway. How lean are we talking? I'm usually in the mid 15s at 70mph and haven't had any issues.

I guess we'll know for sure once I get those logs posted up, hopefully I'll have time to do that tonight.

Eh i guess mid high 15s is where it was around 65-70ish. Any higher and the turbo starts doing its thing and it richens back up a bit.

I think i'm just used to the MX6, since that's really the last car i was driving that gave me a wideband to stare at.

It's getting good gas mileage, though. 25mpg the first tank, i and i kinda beat on it a lot getting a feel for it.

mid 15's is about perfect for cruise with minimal load, your MX6 is just fail aids :giggle:

Please2be explaining why the MX6 gets 41mpg and this car doesn't, then? :giggle:

Is the 323GTX PCV still the one to buy?

41mpg downhill with a tail-wind?

That's what most use, yes. Just make sure you get a legit OEM one, and not a vatozone special. If you go to autozone/oriellys/etc they will actually give you the exact same PCV valve as they do for a miata when you ask for it.

Dunno, it got 41mpg average going from Indy to Gainesville. And that was in not-so-fresh condition. I think i can improve on it.


Ok cool, thanks! I believe the factory 95 valve cover is on this car, so it should work fine.

Fun fact: MX6 GT PCV is the same as 323 GTX apparently.


Normally i'd just go up to the garage and grab one out of the 10-15 valve covers i have laying around, but that sounds like a lot of work.


Where's the best/cheapest place to get one of these? I'd like to buy from one of the vendors that supports the community, but so far the cheapest i can find is $25 to my door from Arlington, which is fine.... but i'm surprised that Trackspeed, 5X, Moss, 949, Begi, etc, don't carry them.

mazda comp? Well if you're ordering other stuff, because shipping charges.

I'm not a member, and don't have other stuff to order anyways.

Came out to $25 shipped from Arlington, i'm ok with that.

Shit's going to go DOWN, now! Once VICS is active, we're going to see some serious shit! This 2554r was entirely too laggy before. This should help that.
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Have some cat.
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You have cute hands. I love your nails.

Where did you get that vics connector? It looks brand new. Wait isnt one of the egr connectors the same as the vics connector?

Thanks! They're only like that if i haven't worked on a car in a few days.


It is a brand new connector. Got it from Ballenger.

Oh so they bit the bullet and ordered like 1000 of them or whatever they said they needed to do because the connector was NLA.

I don't know any of these things. I just wanted the connector, searched the googles, found the connector, ordered it, and it arrived in my mailbox 3 days later.

I just bought a VICS connector from them too. Arrived yesterday.

Do me a favor and make a quick writeup when you guys wire in the VICS (either one of you), i know the gist of it.. use a MS output, enable it as an on/off switch in MS, etc. I'm sure i could figure it out, but I've yet to set mine up.

Also, in for MOAR SPOOL. Plz get us a on/off datalog so we can see the diff.

Sorry, I failed again on getting the logs up, I was busy getting my truck back from the impound.

It doesn't even have a goddamn engine and I've spent more than I paid for it a few times over now :(

vics isn't going to improve your spool.
it might improve lowend grunt, but that is not the same as spool.

fixing a pre-turbo leak should definitely improve spool

Gist, wire one wire to 12v the other to a switched output on the MS. You're done. I used the A/C relay wires.

I guess it depends on the MS then. On my 1st gen MSPNP, the A/C relay wires are just a direct pass-through on the daughter board from the A/C pushbutton. They aren't controlled by the processor in any way.

I have an EMS4, its not as sophisticated an an MS1.

THIS, i'm on a MS1 as well. I assumed I could use one of the random outputs on the MS harness, and there is a way to enable that output as a simple on/off switch activated via RPM (like a window switch?). Still have not researched this enough though.

Yay! VICS buddies!

Sure, i just need to figure out which way to trigger it. Should be easy.

:(

I haz a motor for you, though. So that's good.


I suppose if i take off the turbo and manifold to have them leveled/resurfaced, that would be the ideal time to also install the 3" downpipe, yes?

I don't understand how this leak started. It's a damn cast iron manifold.

I've poked around a bit in TS but haven't setup the VICS yet. Red car is still on jackstands with engine, suspension and interior pulled. When I do, I'll post a quick write-up. "Should" be straightforward (famous last words).

I'm just not sure what to tap into. This is a Brain built DIYPNP in this car.

But... guy who had Brain build it said that it was already set up for VICS switching, so i wonder if one of those orange clusterfuck wires is what i need to use.

I need to PM Brain and see if he has the pinout for this thing.


Once i get the pinout, i'll have it wired up pretty quick. I'll activate it when i have the time to do some driving and let autotune handle the differences.