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18psi 08-26-2014 10:51 AM

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spit coffee

Twodoor 08-26-2014 11:17 AM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1161157)
Keith... i have a stupid question:

What sort of sorcery are you doing with your heater lines, and why? I have a Begi homebrew re-route to do, with the Escalade hose or whatever the hell, and i don't remember seeing anything about that "T" in the write ups i was looking at.

The T is not part of the standard coolant re-route, it is used for the BEGi turbo kit.

The BEGi turbo kit eliminates the heater line that goes behind the exhaust manifold, and replaces the lower radiator hose mounting point on the mixing manifold. If you want to keep your heater functional you run a line from the firewall to a T fitting in your new lower radiator hose.

It is a real pain in the ass. I think I need a couple feet more line to make it more "neat and tidy" but it is functional for now.

Keith

concealer404 08-26-2014 11:19 AM


Originally Posted by Twodoor (Post 1161168)
The T is not part of the coolant re-route, it is used for the BEGi turbo kit.

The BEGi turbo kit eliminates the heater line that goes behind the exhaust manifold, and replaces the lower radiator hose mounting point on the mixing manifold. If you want to keep your heater functional you run a line from the firewall to a T fitting in your new lower radiator hose.

It is a real pain in the ass. I think I need a couple feet more line to make it more "neat and tidy" but it is functional for now.

Keith

Is this just an S6 thing? Our car already has a Begi kit and that stupid "Racer Reroute" that i need to remove and swap to a real re-route.

18psi 08-26-2014 11:25 AM

pretty sure they do that on their s4 kits as well. I think the sidemount setups retain the original mixing manifold.

I don't like it either because now you got a bunch of rubber hose dangling behind, under, in front of your turbo hot parts and unless you secure the heck out of it will be bouncing around/rubbing on a bunch of stuff.

concealer404 08-26-2014 11:27 AM

Cool, thanks!

Twodoor 08-26-2014 12:08 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1161171)
Is this just an S6 thing? Our car already has a Begi kit and that stupid "Racer Reroute" that i need to remove and swap to a real re-route.

Didn't the "racer re-route" have you do something odd with the heater core lines? The instructions from BEGi are so jacked up it isn't even funny. I thought the "racer re-route" attached the heater return line to the upper radiator hose. If that is the case, and you are going to a "real" re-route you take that fitting out of the upper radiator hose and place it in the lower radiator hose and put the heater core line there.

I think if you have a BEGi kit, you should post about it in the "Do it yourself" forums rather than the "Prefab turbo kit" forum!

Keith

concealer404 08-26-2014 02:12 PM


Originally Posted by Twodoor (Post 1161188)
Didn't the "racer re-route" have you do something odd with the heater core lines? The instructions from BEGi are so jacked up it isn't even funny. I thought the "racer re-route" attached the heater return line to the upper radiator hose. If that is the case, and you are going to a "real" re-route you take that fitting out of the upper radiator hose and place it in the lower radiator hose and put the heater core line there.

I think if you have a BEGi kit, you should post about it in the "Do it yourself" forums rather than the "Prefab turbo kit" forum!

Keith

Yep, it does heater return to upper radiator hose.

So... i'm just moving this damn thing in addition to adding the spacer/housing crap on the back?

Sounds awful.

Twodoor 08-26-2014 04:15 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1161228)
Yep, it does heater return to upper radiator hose.

So... i'm just moving this damn thing in addition to adding the spacer/housing crap on the back?

Sounds awful.

It was a royal pain in the ass. That rear thermostat housing is a motherfucker to get on with the engine in the car. I have to baby my lower back (herniated disk) and bending over trying to get the bolts started was a nightmare... tightening them was pretty sucky too.

Had to buy tie wire to attach heat wrap to the heater hoses, and I drilled the holes to mount the ignition heat sink to the firewall. I am not going to bother with pics of that though.

Next post will be pics of the contents of the boxes I just received :)

Keith

Twodoor 08-26-2014 09:52 PM

12 Attachment(s)
Here are the box content pictures!

First picture is my old 01+ manifold I removed, with it's EGR tube, and brand new studs that arrived today.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1409104070

Next is my new air / oil separator.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1409104070

And finally, my brandy new Xida coilovers!!!

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1409104070

Now on to the installation progress.

God damn am I frustrated with BEGi right now. The adaptor for the oil feed line that is supposed to allow use of the oil feed along with the stock pressure sender. My adaptor is not correctly threaded, thus useless. So, without this fucking adaptor I am doing direct oil feed with no oil pressure sender.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1409104070

Holy shit is it scary to drill a hole in your oil pan! Especially when the hole location instructions specify '2.3" down from the oil pan flange, and 1.5" back from a strait edge held to the front 2" down from the oil pan flange'.
Anyone here have a ruler that reads decimals? Closest I could figure was 2 and 5/16. I hope I have the damn thing in the right spot!

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1409104070

I don't know, do you think I have enough mineral spirits based solvent? :D

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1409104087

This concludes my current update. I am posting this while letting the mineral spirits drain from my oil pan. I ended up using two quarts instead of the one quart specified in the instructions, but better safe than sorry right?

Keith

18psi 08-26-2014 10:10 PM

Just curious, but why drill so close to the front, where the ac pump is totally in the way?

I was always kinda curious why people did that, as opposed to behind the pump but in front of the engine mount, and directly under the turbo for straightest drain path?

Twodoor 08-26-2014 11:11 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1161368)
Just curious, but why drill so close to the front, where the ac pump is totally in the way?

I was always kinda curious why people did that, as opposed to behind the pump but in front of the engine mount, and directly under the turbo for straightest drain path?

Because I am doing it with the engine inside the car. It is hard to get a drill in there far enough to put the drain where I did. No way in hell you could get it further back without pulling the engine.

Keith

concealer404 08-27-2014 09:37 AM

Is Begi going to do anything about that adapter?

Twodoor 08-27-2014 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1161510)
Is Begi going to do anything about that adapter?

Talked to Corky this morning. He said that adaptor now goes on the oil / water distribution block at the front of the engine, and you have to lengthen the oil pressure sender wires to route the oil pressure sender over there. I wasn't provided wire or butt connectors to re-route the sensor, but that isn't a big deal... I have spare wire and butt connectors.

The problem is with the horrible instructions. Out of date, and not clear what the fuck they are talking about.

For example, I am now putting the turbo in... it says to attach the oil drain line, oil supply line, and the water line (singular, not plural) to the turbo. It even specifies what fitting to put "the" water line on. The water lines, and oil supply are all the same diameter but different lengths... with no specification of what line goes where... and there are two water lines not one (obviously). In the bag attached to these three lines there are 6 swivel connection fittings. No mention is made of using these fittings, but since there are 6 fittings and 3 hoses I am assuming I need one at each end of each hose.

So far with the exception of the lower radiator hose connection on the mixing manifold, workmanship on the parts has been excellent... but the instructions have caused hours in delays, trying to puzzle out what the fuck they are talking about, or doing something wrong and having to re-do it.

Corky said they are re-writing all their instructions (yeah right) so I made a few suggestions. Make a cardboard template you put up against the oil pan with a hole where the center of the oil drain line fitting goes, so you can mark the spot with a sharpie. Also I said that in the instructions they need to say "take part x from bag #y" when they are talking about parts. As they are now, you have to look through a pile of bags and say "I think they mean this part"... and half the time you are wrong.

Keith

concealer404 08-27-2014 11:48 AM

So basically... possibly just as "easy" to buy a manifold of your choosing, turbo of your choosing, downpipe of your choosing, and figure out the rest yourself?

Because you're doing that anyways?

Twodoor 08-27-2014 01:11 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1161553)
So basically... possibly just as "easy" to buy a manifold of your choosing, turbo of your choosing, downpipe of your choosing, and figure out the rest yourself?

Because you're doing that anyways?

Pretty much. Like I said earlier, post about it in "DIY Turbo discussion" rather than in "prefabbed turbo kits".

They do great phone support though when you have to ask... but my shop is an all steel building so I can't talk to them while actually looking at what ever I have questions on.

Keith

Twodoor 08-27-2014 04:05 PM

God Damn it!

Fucking turbo was supposed to have the compressor housing clocked so it would fit... but it isn't. Now I have to test fit it, remove it, check clearances, test fit it, check it again. Then lock everything down as a last test fit... then take it all back apart and add the oil drain, oil feed, and water lines.

At least it has the kind of compressor housing that you loosen 8 bolts and it can rotate rather than having to remove that damn snap ring. I don't know exactly how this works, it does have the snap ring on that side as well... but the housing does rotate when you loosed the 8 bolts.

sigh

Keith

concealer404 08-27-2014 04:10 PM

Good thing they did that for you, right? :giggle:

DNMakinson 08-27-2014 05:03 PM

Well, at least when he's finished, the compressor housing won't fall off.

Right, mlev?

concealer404 08-27-2014 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by DNMakinson (Post 1161713)
Well, at least when he's finished, the compressor housing won't fall off.

Right, mlev?



Oooooo good point!

This is a blessing, Keith!

18psi 08-27-2014 06:08 PM

double check that snap ring anyway. trust me on this ;)


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