No Money, Having Fun Exocet
 

Lots of photos and info will be posted to https://www.facebook.com/NMHFR

We are working with Hanchey Vehicle Tech to get the most out of the frame.

Yes there is currently a MP62 in the build but will be switching to a build VVT or k20/24 once we figure out power to weight and points for TT classing. Current goal is TT3 with over head in the motor to bump up easily.

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Kit gets here tomorrow. Will have unpacking photos. No one cares about photos of taking apart an NB.

I've been working with a friend on the now discontinued "Lightweight" Exocet kit, the one that does not use the Miata subframes but does use all the other suspension bits. Its been a riot thus far.

I've said it about 10,000 times before, but if I ever wad up the Miata its salvageable guts are going into an Exocet.

Get out of my head! If I fold this this on the track all the parts are going into a catfish(money willing) or a DIY Exocet frame. You can find the plans on the Exocet forums for free. Just depends how pretty you want to make it.

In for unboxing of awesomeness.

Been chatting with the dad about an Exocet in his new retirement. So need pics to prove the epic. I'm willing to donate my daily as a guts care.

Deconstruction is complete

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1409447517

Had to refuse delivery of the shipment.... They scraped the packaging open and gouged the powder coating. Not sure what is going to happen now and how long it will take to get resolved.

Damn, that sucks. :(

Its obviously ruined. Have them send it out this way, I'd be happy to take it off your hands :)

Went right back on the truck. $750 in shipping cost.... I was not taking any chances.

I would do the same thing. I mean, if you're paying that much those rtards better figure out how not to scratch it up, and maybe be more careful in the future.

I'm kinda puzzled here though: your title says "no money", and you're building basically a racecar when you had a decent running miata already. Is this one of those "no money to make it faster, so lets make it lighter" situations?

either way, always enjoy me a nice exocet thread

So the 99 is a 100ft car. Up close it's a shit box and the car was terminal. We could not corner balance it or get it to align properly so a tub swap was coming. A nice tub with a spec cage was in the 2000 range but I wanted something different.

In the end the car will be a 10th of the cost of cars running the same lap times. Also will be close to owning a open wheel aero car that you can street from time to time and stick a passage in at also at less cost.

At some point I'd love to take all my shiny nice bits and put them into an exocet like frame(diy route instead of exocet). I could get a decent penny for my shell after all the work I did on it too.

That is only if I go off the deep end with doing track events though.

Did I read that right? YOU were charged $750 to return the frame due to their negligence? If so....bollocks.

No that is the original freight cost and if I signed for it I would be on the hook for what every has to be done to fix it. Not like a $10 return shipping on a broken gauge or something.

UPS has now tried to deliver a frame after damaging the repaired one in the exact same way. The return trip to Exomotive they fucked it up so bad they are going to have to scrap it and build a whole new frame.

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Geeze, that has to be torture. Good call on sending it back though, that spot would be an eyesore the rest of it's life.

Wow, on the top too. Cos like, forklift operator can't see the top when moving it around in the warehouse :jerkit:

I'd be flipping tables by now. Talk about pathetic.

Le Suck

How long to get another frame built?

I would say Exomotive needs to redesign their packaging to be UPS/fork truck operator safe. Not that its ultimately their fault, but it would save them some headache.

UPS will force them to pack better, either by direct requirement, or by getting slower and slower fighting the damage payments.

maybe UPS insurance claims are part of their business model?

From what i'm being told they use a 3ed party to deal will all the shipping cost comparisons, who is faster from A to B, ect. UPS claim is between EXO and UPS as I never signed for anything. Next frame I will pick up or direct ship (no hubs).

UPS has been a nightmare for several fellow Exocet customers. My frame got lost at my local hub, and UPS sent me on a wild goose chase around the region to find it. To be fair, they ended up making things right and liftgate-delivering it to my house.
Exomotive has had to change their packaging several times to deal with the damage caused during transit.

Might has the worse damage they have done yet.

Why not use pipe insulation from home depot when shipping. That shit relatively cheap and might protect it a bit. Enough to make them stop once they hear plastic interference

Unless they built a metal box around the frame it would have been damaged to matter how they packed it.

Which is honestly how they should ship it. When my dad bought a Ducati 1098 Tricolore it was in a wooden box which had a metal frame underneath and metal braces that bolted into the skidplate. Granted, that is a large motorcycle company and not a small frame company like Exomotive.

That frame is going to be scrapped?? It just needs to be blasted/ recoated. Maybe I should call Kevin and buy it myself!

The labor for blasting is more then then cost of them building a new one (their cost not retail). There is a special clear coat on the frame that is now ruined and there is no way to fix it or the under color.

Have them send it to me. I'll rattle can that sh*t and drive the poop out of it

I can't believe they wouldn't sell that as a scratch 'n' dent for a reduced price. Plenty of us cheapskates would snap it up in a heartbeat.

TL: DR - Exomotive doesn't have the financial motivation to sell you "scratch and dent" products.

There's not enough potential volume in the market to warrant selling "scratch and dent" - even for us cheapskates. If they sell it *scratch and dent*, for, say , $1000 cheaper, then UPS only has to pay $1000 for the losses on the item, and now, they have still sold a total of one car. If, however, they claim a total loss and it's not resellable, UPS pays the full value of the car, and then you have to pay the full value of another car, then they've sold a total of two cars :D - this quickly becomes a big deal if their anticipated market volume is only - say - 2000 cars. You buy one, it gets damaged, they get the income from two.

If their market and distribution systems were similar to...say...washing machines:
If Maytag distributes their own product, then they have no one to make a claim against but themselves, so a "total write-off" of the product directly hits their own pocketbook. At the same time, if they damage a mid-line washing machine and sell it as "scratch and dent", the "scratch and dent" now becomes a differentiation point for a penny-pinching consumer who might have otherwise bought the bottom-of-the-line Whirlpool. Selling the scratch and dent, then, becomes a way to sell one additional unit. It also avoids the costs of shipping the unit back to the MFR for repair, which means it's probably cheaper for Maytag to subsidize Lowes the $200 for them to sell you the "scratch and dent" washing machine than it would be for Maytag to ship it back to themselves, repair the aesthetic damage, and reship it to Lowes.

They will cut it up and scrap it. It's worth more at tax time like that.

The above two posts show what's wrong in the world....

Not the world. US tax rules. But still even in it's damaged form I don't want anyone else having a frame with my clear coat on it :rofl::rofl:

Was saving these till they were installed on the car but that wont be any time soon.

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Is it this difficult to fold over 2 layers of cardboard and throw some tape on them over the piping?

Running it into metal door frames and stacking heavy pallets on it while it vibrates for 100s of miles would still cut thought all that to some degree.

The world is wrong cause some company won't give away a lightly damaged frame to you for pennies?

I see absolutely nothing wrong with this process. This way a small company gets more business/work to stay afloat, the stupid shippers learn a valuable lesson that will motivate them to be more careful next time, and the customer doesn't have to settle for some beat up frame.

The only down side is OP now having to wait, which sucks.

Yup plus it devalues your image having not so perfect product out in the market. What if someone saw the frame without finding out the back story?

Same reason I don't sell damaged or old bread. And no, I don't throw it away. The women's shelter or homeless shelter gets it.

DOUBTFUL

What's wrong is that's basically a perfectly good frame that is going to get scrapped for BS tax reasons. Government make believe that cause REAL things to get destroyed for no good reason.

"We" had to crush two perfectly good race cars for similar tax law foo foo a couple years back.

Whateves

Hah, where did you guys get the idea it was going to get scrapped? Don't worry, seems like everyone is begging for a piece of that frame...

The damage wasn't structural, it just scratched the powdercoat on top and dented a tube that gets covered by the rear tank cover anyways. Don't worry, we'll make sure it goes to a nice home. :)

I already called dibs

I still haven seen photos and going off what was described over the phone. Should build a WRL car out of it as it's. I would buy in a seat for that.

UPS Just messed mine up too! Not as bad, but after reading this thread, I inspected it before it left the truck:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1414549089
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If it were on a lower tube, I would have probably accepted it, but not where I have to see it getting in/out.

I guess we found out what Brown could do for us. :crx:

These recent damages are utterly ridiculous. Do they have lemmings driving the forklifts?

I'm sure they're laughing at us too though.

"How hard can it be to transport a giant car chassis barely wrapped in a layer of plastic across the country?!"

The answer is yes.

I have given up hope in any of our postal services long ago - pack well and insure for a VERY large amount.

Just place some 2x4's on top of the frame and band them in place to act as a sacrificial element. Problem solved.

Sucks about the damage, I would have sent it back too.

Car finial showed up without UPS fucking it up do to it not shipping UPS.

Photos on Facebook page and to lazy to post them all.

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Update

Car is here http://oi60.tinypic.com/2b1end.jpg

Stuck with a stock miata motor that I had my mp62 on do to the cost and how much extra time it would take to get, install, brake, figure out a K swap.

Sounds good Jeff, we are here to help.

Once you get it in the air could you take some pictures of the underside. Which stock exhaust do you use, a NA or NB?

Stock exhaust? Like any self respecting homo car driver has a stock exhaust.

I have a RB header and a custom made ArTech midpipe back. Will likely take the car back to ArTech and have him make the axle back part fit under the exocet rear deck better as the rear of the car is about a ft shorter. For now it will be a open mid pipe till I can get it over to him.

What exactly are you looking for on the underside?

Where the mounting points for exhausts are, and general late out. Basically I am trying to figure out if my turbo exhausts will bolt right up, or if I will have to modify them to fit an exocet.

What do you plan on racing with? Hopes and dreams?
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1416871297

Unless things have changed, there are no exhaust mount points on the Exocet chassis. All you have are the hangers that are attached to the rear subframe.

--Ferdi

We have space docking!

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