Ricer redneck build '96 miata
 

Howdy gang,
I am fairly new to the forum.. Atleast posting wise, so I am just going to spill it. 23 year old from southwest virginia. All my friends and a majority of the population here have wrxs, or mustangs. Im so sick of their big heads and tiny you know whats drivng like they can whoop lambos. Its a 03 gt bro dont rev your bunjed up exhaust at me. So its time, all the haters say I need "internals" or just got 1jz. These dumb dumbs dont realize these cars were made for boost.. Smh. So im on a budget of 1200 or so dollars to boost my 96 1.8 manual. Already done brakes, timing belt, vc gaskef, plugs, wires, brakes and bearings all myself... Big deal.. Not. Imnm not going to lie I am somewhat of a noob and need a lot of advice and Ill listen to any opinons. Im getting wideband aem Friday too. Next step? Really dont want to run ms

Either get MS or don't boost it.

You need a much bigger budget.

Welcome to the forum.

If your budget is $1200 and you are asking what is next, you don't have enough knowledge to be able to build a turbo car for that budget.

As far as not going MS? It can be done. Having helped my friend get his car running on piggy backs (bought that way) I would go stand alone any day of the week over that. Did it work? Yeah, kept the car from blowing up. Never ending mess of guessing and running problems though.

My friend is going to squeak in at under 5k for car, upgrades and everything, but he got a screaming deal on a good chunk of things.

Trollolololo

Yes I am asking whats next. I am obviously a noob. so take your dick pump off and quit trying to one somebody up. I joined this thread to escape negativity. Anyways, Do I focus on the intercooler next or just finding good prices on manifold and turbo? and worry about inter cooler fitment after? And yes Im fighting nail and tooth to get MS. 1. its really expensive, I would have to get a new laptop etc. 2. Im not that computer literate especially with mapping etc. So im thinking FMU to get that high rich load under boost. What was yous guys next step after wideband? and I cant do it under 1200? this is the reason im boosting to prove haters like you Im wrong, and itll be reliable. Thank you Boosted Redneck

it gets 1 more chance. then it's gone

Roanoke!

Great answer 18psi? I need help not threats

psyber optix! Yea brother the great star city!!!!

Take it easy dude. Your original post would have had detrimental effects, a year ago. Nobody is dick pumping you.

Ms1 is completely and totally unsupported. It is obsolete. Ms2 is the minimum. Find one used for a good price savings. If you can't afford a $125 laptop from Wall-Mart to run ms, then you absolutely cannot afford to replace an engine. Engine replacement would come in turn, because of a bad tune and wanting to turbo before you were ready.

You will not get one single person on this site, to agree that an FMU is a good idea. Not one. The budget you stated ($1,200) is not reality. Certainly not for a first time build. Take some time and go read through some builds. It will take a few months to really understand them. Based on your original post, you don't really know anything about a proper turbo system. So take the time to read and learn. Buy parts later.

Once again, it goes like this:

1. Go read some build threads.
2. Install Ms and learn to tune
3. Read more threads and start to figure out your end goal. Type of Use, power level, etc.
4. Install injectors, re tune. This is important. No you cannot use stock injectors for boost.
5. Keep reading build threads. See where people had problems, note them. See what worked well, note that stuFF too.
6. Start searching the classifieds for sweet deals, now that you have a better idea of what you need.
7. You see a pattern here? Continue with it.

Negative cats will have a severe impact on the type and quantity of help you will receive on this site. Smooth your feathers, your the new rooster in this cockhouse.
-Ryan

@Ryansmoneypit thank you for being down to earth and somewhat easy on a youngster. Im not the typically dick head that gets on here and acts like I know everything or wants hand outs. Im not a retard but im deff not a master mechanic. But Im fighting MS man. But I am seeing my budget is off, so i bumped it to 2 grand to be safe. But the steps you have given seem like its for a 1.6. The car passion channel literally stated the same thing. And trust me brother I have been reading threads for months, Just ready to dip my toe in the pool then jump in. Once again thank you for being down to earth.

Wide array of MT members from Virginia...

It seems like nobody from Roanoke is on here?

Or just drive up an hour and half, buy ryan a bunch of beer and pick his brain in person.

edit: this response was submitted late so it's out of context

Holy Cow! hes from Staunton? I am so blessed to have you guys in the state! wow this is much better then I every imagined. And yea as long as its miller or coors lol psyber optix

I kinda like this redneck charm. If I'm ever back down at Tech for work collaboration , I'll drop in to check your progress lol.

Either way, to turbo these things reliably, you're going to have to invest a little. Nothing is worse than trying to save a little here and there to only do it again. I'd recommend an MKTurbo kit, megasquirt and decent injectors. After that you'll just be replacing the parts that don't keep up.

Those were instructions specific to the 1.8.
Greg at the passion channel has been working with turbo systems for a very long time. That's why he makes it look easy. More than likely it will not work out well for you.

The fact that you think I gave you instructions for a 1.6 build, just helps solidify the thought that you know even less than originally indicated. Reading my build thread would take you probably 5 hours. Even more to fully understand it. That's just one thread, and mine isn't even that good, but you will see the frustration I encountered with my DIY approach. I am skeptical that you have anything more than. Three hours of actual reading. Reading not skimming through looking at pictures and a few related sentences.

Keep reading

-Ryan

^this.

I, for one, learned by doing and failing and researching along the way to try to fix my mistakes. It sucks. Definitely have a second car on hand.

And he wouldn't be the first to do this.

More great advice here. You will definitely need a second mode of transportation while you install your parts. This goes for every part of the instal. MS, you will probably need a few days to get it drivable. Weeks for the turbo install.

I'd seriously love to have a meetup sometime. Put a face to the username and car.

My first motor swap/turbo install took me two weeks just to figure out why I couldn't get sequential ignition to work. That's not even breaking the motor in and tuning.

Worst of all was pulling the motor 4 times to redo the oil pump, only to find out a galley plug of all things was leaking. Towed it to a shop and spent hundreds to figure that mess out. You WILL suffer with this project. Everyone does, just in different ways. Unless you are a careful builder like Downmented who has 10 other cars to use while he painstakingly makes his Miata the best on the internet.

I'd be interested in a meet up to gain some knowledge and to see what you guys have done.

As I try and hijack this guys thread...

Sounds great. My car is back on the road with the new seat. Also planning on getting in on the VIR track day on the 18th. Maiden track day for this moneypit. Have to check for conflicting dates though. Working on an AMA hair scramble championship.

I have been studying these forums for months on months. And I have read your thread. From my little experience I have seen many 1.8 turbos without ms and pretty much all 1.6s run it. So dont think im trying to say their is a "difference". I know the ignition is weak and the timing loves to jump just retiming mine to 12 degrees last night to kill that idle drip I was having. Previous running 8 Degrees and super rich. And if you want to match a face just see my facebook page :). But im down for a meet at anytime and will be uploading pictures of my turd bucket asap. Thank you Boosted Redneck

Also I have 2 other vehicles so transportation is not a big deal. 96 Chevy 1500, 02 BMW 325I

Come down to MATG this weekend. I got a floor you can crash on. Will give you mt decals and oral sex.


To the OP. You need to research a ton more. Expect to spend $3000-$4000 to build a reliable DD turbo miata. There are costs you can't get around unless you have a ton of knowledge and fabrication skills. You lack both of those things. I may be up in the Roanoke area in October, might possibly bring a turbo car.

Well there is your problem. You have e been reading on forums other than Miata Turbo. Stray from this site if you want shittyshitty advice. I wont keep repeating myself. I gave you a simple map to success. Use it, don't argue with us about it. You will not convince us that you are going to build a reliable car without MS.

Shuiend. Come on up man, Im always lending my ear! I love what you guys are telling me. Yea I am a Noob. Yes I will keep reading forums. Dont give up me fellows hahah

Ryansmoneypit. Looks like ill be ordering a Megasquirt pnp 2 this weekend. I cant find a 3 under 800 bucks.

I'll be at Summit on the 9th of Sept. I just hope I can get my control arms and stuff installed.

Sorry to anybody on here I noob tubed. I didnt mean to act like a know it all. I just was very confident without MS, so yea a kid will rebel when you tell him Santas not real :(

One last question too. How the fuck is Chris Rudnicks Miata still running?

Who the fuck is chris rudnicks?

Keep waiting. I got my ms3x for 600.

Braineack the admin here builds MS3x's for around $800. There is a wait list though. Well worth it.

Be sure to get the bells and whistles you never though you would need. Knock, sequential, etc. You don't have to use them, but it's sure handy that it's already there.

Shuiend: Hes a branch off of Haggard Garage. runs a 95 with no tune no ms just parts from a half rigged greedy kit.
Ryansmoneypit: Ahhh I guess the wait is worth it huh? so dont waste my money on this 500 pnp ms 2 on ebay?

Thank you guys for the replies :)

Have patient I am from the south and have the attention span of a saltine cracker.

Youtube: Ricer Miata
Youtube: haggard garage

Check them out

WTF is haggard garage. Sound exactly like someone or something you should not be getting advice from. Just because some single person has added a turbo to a miata without doing it smartly does not mean everyone can. I have seen 10x more blown miata motors for every 1 successful boosting that way.

Don't but a MS off eBay. You don't have the knowledge to buy the correct one there without getting fucked.

This should count as an infraction :hatecat: :eggplant: :hatecat:

Haggard garage is a huge downgrade from "Broke and Boosted"

The knock sensor I would use for sure.
Itd be pretty cool to do flat foot shifting and having a "revlimiter"

I'm guessing you didn't read the thread sticky about ebay megasquirt. You has so much to learn.

Haha i agree with you all. Its funny watching them tear shit up tho. Its just funny that thing hasent blown yet.... IDK

But yea Greg is by far one of the best youtube channels, Miataking great too

I have a whole other world to learn... I know this, Im not scared to jump in and learn new things either :) Guess whos reading forums for the rest of the day

Do any of you guys have channels? Im from the south so reading is hard lol. I love VIDEOSSSSS

No.

Go here Build Threads - Miata Turbo Forum -Boost cars, acquire cats.

READ.

The fact you keep saying 'south' is disturbing. :eggplant:

Flat bill bro: Check out my super budget, shit box.

Bro: Wow that sure looks like a pile of shit, who built it?

Flat bill bro: Haggard garage. They kick ass and built my turbo for six bucks and a 40 of Old English.

Bro: Sik bro, sooo sick.

Again, providing that you really haven't read shit! You aren't going to build your car from videos. Well you could I guess. Good way to keep tow companies in business.

Ryansmoneypit: Holy fucking shit i have not laughed so hard before. "DUDE they did it on Youtube, Im sure I can"

Ryansmoneypit: I have read a ton, just dont intake it dude. Im a fucking redneck garrrrsshhhhh

I manage people your age. I can tell you are lying to me. I can pick it out like a dry finger and a good booger.

Megasquirt should be your first upgrade, only. Learn to tune stock so when you actually can afford to boost you'll have the tuning aspect down at least. /broken record

A megasquirt will give you better results than using a FMU, see above

Noke wasn't bad in the early 2000s when I lived there for 2 years. I went back later to visit friends and I was not impressed :dunno:

Caution, he'll give you a mouth full. :eggplant:

I got the shrimp.

No, that's one thing about me you don't understand.

I don't take handouts. I earn my way, every step. I need something extra on the side, like you.

What do you mean, like me?

Keep reading, stay away from noobtube videos.

:2cents:

Girz0r: wow man, that was real shit... Really glad I joined this forum so I have a wayyyyyy better idea where to start. Like your guys have told me megasquirt which I have been reading into for the past hour. This is the route in which I am taking now. Just need to keep reading on installation of the ms2 or ms3x, i believe tuner studios is a great start for somebody as dumb as me. Also, just for keepsake Im doing a shit ton of research about both just to compare. I keep all my research in binders with catogory tabs sticking off the side. For now my next step is going to get a cpu unless i go with ms3x and use megatunix on my macbook. Ill keep you all updated

Next thing you should do is post pictures of your car, cats and pokemon

I am willing to believe that MS2 will probably loose update support in a year or two. Keep that in mind. Just a guess though. Just wait for, or buy now, an ms3. If you go VVT with an ms2, ow you have to add more stuff. Granted it's just another box, but it's another leak path for money.

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...91e431707.jpegHeres the doodoo wagon. Looks a little rough but boyyy does she scoot. Loves coming around turns sideways too �� I have owned bmws 328ci, 89 corvette, gs-ts plural, and a rx8. But this thing with barely any hp will make you reconsider your whole manhood. I fucking love it, call me queer all you want, im still going to be doughnuts around that ass. Redneck power