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Old 01-21-2015, 08:43 PM   #1
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So I grabbed this MSM. I will be clear up front, I was just looking for another miata. I was addicted to boost for years with DSMs, so I know about the turbocharging side of FI. But I had sworn them off because DSMs are either boring, or money pits. No middle ground. So I shopped on craigslist for a while.

Was gonna grab a 10th AE with a salvage title needing an engine. But, Alabama is a pita to get a rebuilt title unless you were the owner when it was salvaged.

Then I found a running 10th ae with bolt-ons. But it was a pile crap.

So I found this MSM, did some researches on what made them different. Decided worse comes to worse, I can drive it till the 220k FI engine pops, and then stick a 1.8 VVT engine in it.

Go and check it out. Body is 9/10. Interior is 8/10. Engine is clean enough to eat off of. And it has good compression, drives good, pulls hard (then harder past 5k).

I decided to pull the trigger. Guys pops on 4.5k. Damn I should have lowballed him more.. He was asking 5k.

Polished up driver's headlight. Passenger is new.
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Toothpaste step

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New Plugs. NGK Iridiums
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De-Chroming it.



Did the antenna bezel and deck plates too... I'm not a fan of shiny metal on my sports cars. Muscle Cars, trucks, and old sedans sure...
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Hmm. I may need to resize my pictures and reupload. A bit big for my screen and I am 1920x1080 sooo..

Anyways few more pics for giggs and what not.





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Just have to say, I love the car. I love the MPG, power, and handling. Also love the slightly more aggresive body, and the projectors... AMG the NA had **** headlights, these are great.
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Hory shet. You stole that thing.

Nice find.

Make sure you make a thread about the RX8 too please. Kthxbye
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Oh the RX8 is a piece of crap.

I stole that too, but Im probably gonna get rid of it put my 5.3 ls engine in my truck.

If I can get the trans in my truck fixed underwarranty I will swap the rx8.. But if I need a new one, the rx8 is going bye-bye, and I will have a better truck.
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Course you stole the RX8. It's not worth anything anyway Still like them though, and I've always thought that an RX8 with an LS swap would make for the most perfect daily ever.
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This is why/how I stole the rx8



Massive fuckton of hail damage... Got cold before I could finish body work. Still needs body work. But now also needs a clutch, and probably ign coils. Rotary is about shot.



Car had some gangsta wheels on it, so I stuck my set of evo viii track wheels on it.

Payed a transmission shop to put a new 700r4 in my truck, 4k miles on it, and it won't shift out of 2nd, and slips like hell.
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ah, that's hideous. lol

If I were to do a V8 swap I'd have to pick up an RX8 that is super clean aside from a bad motor... ideally. Otherwise steal it and beat on it.
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Interior is clean, I can do body work. I pulled as much as I could and did a light body fill.

I payed 2250 for the rx8. I offered that, but he wouldn't take it. Called me a month later, and said to come get it for 2250. Sold the gangsta wheels, and I figure if I can get 2400 for it with evo rims I will be breaking even pretty much.
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Ah wow. That's the cheapness.

Enjoy the MSM, great car.
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I am so far, but my back and neck aren't. Got used to cushy rx8, with less sideways g
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And lots of the needed stuff already done. Wheels, metal elbow at throttle body. Looks nice. Interior looks great for 220K.

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Currently I plan to swap the gears for 3.636 rear, and then Cloth top, then a tuning device.

Either MS PnP, Hydra, or DSM link. Not sure I want to figure out how to run Link on the MSM engine.

So used to a 9k readline in the rx8, I will be getting on it in the MSM, and bounce off the redline in 1st.
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Reverent at MS Labs (in vendor's section) makes a nice ECU for your MSM that will free up a bunch of power and get rid of that dead spot in the rev range.

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I assume you are refering to the 2 stage boost effect? Like the power seens to come on nicely as it crosses boost threshold, then it seems to jump again @ 5K?

I was aware of the asinine engine managment of the MSM. Just not sure about what engine management I want to use.

Hydra seems nice with the Autotune feature.

MS seems nice because other than autotune it does the same things, for way cheaper.

DSM link seems nice because I know how to tune it, and it would be the cheapest, good standalone. (Link is basically a full standalone that runs inside a Mitsubishi PCM and lets you tune like a full standalone, with launch control, antilag, and some other real nice features I wouldn't use on a mx5)

But DSM link would be the most work. I would have to get the injector to play nice, would have to get a CAS that works with link, would need to get coils or COPs that work with mitsubishi stuff. Then I would need to build a patch harness. Big can of worms. Might be easier to learn MS.
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the 2stage boost "effect" is the crappy ecu pulling timing like crazy and leaning out the car

hydra is for people that hate money and love to throw it away
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MS does autotune.

If you're budget minded I'd suggest just keeping an eye out in the classifieds. Within the last 3 months there have been at least 3 or 4 MS2extras, PNP for the MSM, come up in the classifieds and all were less than $700 shipped.

That'd do very, very nicely.
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The MS autotune is a wonderful time saving feature. It works very well.

The MS is the most widely used ECU for the first and second generation Miata platforms.
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The MS autotune is a wonderful time saving feature. It works very well.

The MS is the most widely used ECU for the first and second generation Miata platforms.
The only thing putting me off Megasquirt, was the fact my first turbo car was a saturn, and really all there was back at that time was Megasquirt,,, V2. You know, the aweful circuit, which you had to modify to run coils, and mpfi. And it was a bitch to tune.

Glad to see DIYautotune has come a lonnnnnnnnng way in the past decade.
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A decade ago flip phones were new.

Nice kitty, by the way. That's a fluffy one.
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