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doward 10-05-2016 07:15 PM

Tarmac 88 "Button" GLTC/ST5/TT5
 
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This will serve as a fresh compilation of my 2016 building and campaigning of a 1999 Miata in NASA's PTE & TTE.

First, a little background:
From 2006 through 2015 I had an NA that made the gradual transition from sole transportation, to local CSP ringer, to HPDE car, to TTE/D car. I used nearly 100% plug and play, bolt on solutions for everything. There was nothing custom about the car.
Ultimately it ended up as a BP4W swapped, NB subframe/rack/spindle swapped, sport brake'd, door bar'd, 142whp, 800/500 Xida'd, 4.77 OsGiken'd, lexan top'd beastly little street car.
But, due to the sheer number of miscellaneous(ricer) modifications, the car ended up in D on points and I was severely outgunned. ~140whp@2550lbs on 225 NT01s outgunned.
Fastest ever Mid Ohio lap in this car was a 1:42.9. Set with the aero and 205 SM6.
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Because I wasn't having any fun being an also-ran back marker in D, and I didn't want to gut, cage, trailer this "clean" Ohio car I started thinking of Plan B's.

In November of 2015 I jumped a deal to buy a friend's mildly prepped TTE NB1:

I am going to break this down into stages.
Stage 1: "The Early Days" Not sure I wanted to "heavily invest" in PT or w2w in general. Nov '15 - April '16
Stage 2: "All-In for Regional Lulz" April '16 - August '16
Stage 3: "Pipe Dream" Aug '16 - 2017
Stage 4: 2017+

It was still pretty simple. Mods were light enough that it could be easily converted to "state of the art"
It was literally what I imagine most Miata.net cars are like.

What I got for my moniez:
1999 Emerald Green Mica:
Racing Beat front sway
Racing Beat header - wrapped
Racing beat powerpulse exhaust
Goodwin cat'd midpipe
Racing Beat cold air intake
KYB AGX
Flyin Miata springs
Koyo
OEM hardtop
open diff
15x7 Team Dynamics w/205/50/15 NT01
15x7 Sport Edition w/195/55/15 Blizzaks
15x7 Rota Slipstream with 205/50/15 ZII

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A quick cleanup + the wheels from my NA later, I was at a 3 day track-weekend event for a thorough test/shakedown.
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As it was, I was nearly matching what my NA can do on street tires. Strong. NB1 hype is real, even though my car was basically an NB.

doward 10-05-2016 07:51 PM

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Stage 1: "The Early Days"

Carfest was a blast. I could easily see how some light prep could make this thing a strong regional TTE car. Also, I had just entered into a small business with a friend and we had a truck and trailer available, so a lot of the logistics were already in place. I kinda dragged my feet all winter. Here I was, suddenly with 4 miatas, 3 of which were track prepped. Which one do I go forward with?

Ultimately I decided to send all of my autocross and lapping day budget in a more "serious" direction. Let's go see if I can hang in track competition. Why not?
In February 2016 I had the car dynoed and started prepping to get it caged. I also applied for a Provisional NASA comp license.

Plan was:
-Do all the cheap points-free modifications; dash delete, lexan, sound deadening, etc.
-Use the car nearly as-is
-scavenge my NA for anything and everything "fast"

Going forward, every decision was made on the premise of doing it as cheaply as possible above all else. This was a secondary track car, probably 4th on my hobby priority list.
I would keep using the Sport brakes until I used up the pads. Only then would I swap to regular 1.8 calipers freeing up points to move the OsGiken over from the NA, etc.

Key budgetary considerations:
I used Winding Road contingency money from TT to help cover w2w safety gear: HNRS, Nets, Mirrors, etc.
I used second hand takeoff SM6s to win R7s
I won free Hawks using whatever was on the car.



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Cage came back fitting amazing. VERY glad I ponied up for the custom cage.


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I sold the OEM top and helped organize a group buy here on MT for a small batch of CCP lightweight tops which I made a run of DiY lexan windows for.
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Further prep was both nets, a seat back brace, moved the Xida's over. All this took until like Thursday the night before I left to the season opening weekend at NCM in March 2016.

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doward 10-05-2016 08:06 PM

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Unloaded at NCM, National Corvette Museum in Kentucky. Stickered it up and set toe in the paddock. Ride heights untouched, unkown camber/caster. I had simply moved each endlink and coilover assembly over from the NA to the same corner of the NB.

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Fresh built car, new to me track.
The TT record was pretty soft @2:28.x since none of the faster PT guys double dipped last year. I think Aaron’s PT record is 2:24.201. That's set IN a race only, qualifying laps dont count. I watched his incar video about twenty times in preparations for this event..

I reset the record in session 2 to 2:26.109, and lowered it in session 3 to 2:24.337.

Won TTE Saturday with a new track record
2nd place Sunday in the rain

Current setup:
TTE* +7
800/500 Xida +5
RB/MSM sway +2
SM6 +1
Sport brakes +2
Total: 17pts.


doward 10-05-2016 08:09 PM


doward 10-05-2016 08:31 PM

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Sometime between NCM and Mid Ohio April I received my Provisional Competition license from NASA. Woot!
So for Mid Ohio April I dual entered in TTE and PTE.

Prep was simple, 1000lb front springs to delete swaybars, which made room for the 4.77 OsGiken to come over from the NA and a lexan windshield.

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I did not win a full set of tires at NCM, nor did I earn enough hawk bucks to replace all my Sport pads.
So, I ran at Mid Ohio on my last set of 2012 SM6s, and sport brakes.

TTE* +7
Xida +5
Sport brakes +2
SM6 +1
OsGiken +3
18 Points.

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Show up, need new W2W tech. Pass with no problems!

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Qualify 2nd, amazing. I have no idea what I am doing so far up the grid:
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Chris Kopitski is new to Mid Ohio, I am new to w2w in general. He picks to start from the right, thinking the green would wave on the front straight(it doesn't)
I am arguably LEADING my first ever race into T1 at my home track:
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I struggle HARD in traffic and end up finishing 3rd in my first race behind Kopitski in "Bubbles" and Micheal Nueman in his E36. Nueman would end up being my Nemesis all season.
Post race I dyno @ 130.1whp on my 130cap. Round to the nearest hp, clear. I also win TTE that day.
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Sunday I qualify 2nd again, but cruise flag to flag for a 2nd place finish.
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Only 1.3 seconds off Chris's new rack record on 4yr old tires, rubber bushings, etc. Felt pretty amazing.



Post race dyno 131.9. WTF?! Disqualified. This also throws out my most recent TT competition session. My TT session 1 time holds on and I end up with a win there.
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I come away from Mid Ohio dead set on vengeance. Vengeance against Nueman for punking me in traffic on Saturday. Vengeance on the dyno to prove I wasn't cheating.
I also come away with a new PB, 4 Hoosiers, Hawk bucks, etc!!








doward 10-05-2016 08:40 PM

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The month of May is spent learning about dynos and fine tuning the car.

I swap to regular 1.8 brakes which makes room for the R7s.
I also add SuperMiata engine mounts, a lightweight NA6 clutch setup, a stock cast iron 99 header, and a bunch of ballast. Most of this is prep to switch to a points only build. The header swap makes room for the AEM ECU from my NA. Mostly a break even on total weight between the lightweight mounts and clutch vs the iron header + ballast. The car only gained about 35lbs, less than a tank of fuel.
I had to start the races at Mid Ohio with a full tank and i came in dangerously low on Sunday. So I added the ballast so I could know, and therefore control, my fuel weight easier.

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I do a DE day and run a couple sessions n the PT car for fun. It feels frickin amazing.
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doward 10-05-2016 08:47 PM

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Gingerman Raceway, Michigan, June 2016. This is a breakout event. I land my first w2w win(s) and pole(s)

I was "encouraged" to add some cushion after my DQ last month, So I ran on a 133whp/2375 reclass.
E* +7
R7 +3
Diff +3
Xida +5
18 points

At Gingerman, I cruise to 2 PTE wins, 1 PTE 2nd in the rain(to Nueman who had H2Os /fistshake), 2 TTE wins, and a new PTE record.
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doward 10-05-2016 08:48 PM

Gingerman PTE track record.

doward 10-05-2016 08:52 PM

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As well as it went, I knew there was still room for optimization.

I went back to the dyno to verify power on the stock header:
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Well under the 133 cap I ran Gingerman on. I decided to revert back to the 130/2320 for cushion both ways.


I sit out the July events and forfeit my chances at a regional participation championship.

Efini~FC3S 10-05-2016 08:57 PM

Who did your cage? Someone in Ohio I assume?

doward 10-05-2016 09:03 PM

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We're up to August now.

I offer Sonny from 949 a codrive spot for my final event back at Mid Ohio.

I decided that Sonny would race on the Pro Course on Saturday. This was the layout that Emilio raced on in 2012, so there was plenty of video and info to get Sonny up to speed(he didn't need much help). I would race on the Club Course on Sunday.
I would TT on Saturday, Sonny TT on Sunday. We primarily used the TT sessions for set up testing and recon.

We were double dipping into two classes (TTE and PTE) and we would be running two different track layouts. There was a chance at four track records.

PTE Club record is super strong, Chris Adam's VVT swapped N:. 1:41.xx. Fast.
PTE Pro just got reset early this year by Chris Kopitski. It was a strong laptime, and Sonny has never driven here before.
So we tossed the idea of a PT record happening.

TTE Pro was strong, but in nice weather and traffic free, I thought it was within reach.
TTE Club was the softest one. It was the longest standing.

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The only prep for this event was additional ballast for when Sonny was in the car and a fresh set of wheels and tires.

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Saturday August 27th 2016
I won TTE on my birthday with a 1:41.8x. In my first timed session in the car I was within a second of the standing record(1:40.9x), but it just got way too hot, way too quickly before session 2. I swapped on the new tires and made a couple changes in the setup, but I only went a tenth faster in session 2. I sat out the rest of my TT sessions to save the tires.

Sonny qualified on Pole after just 5-6 warmup laps at Mid Ohio in a car he'd never seen before. That should be a huge pat on the back for myself, Darren @ MidwestMiataParts and the science of 949 Racing for a well setup and capable car. Sonny had a fun race with Stuart Killian and Michael Nueman(NEMISIS) and finished on the podium his first time on Mid Ohio and in his first NASA race since 2013.

Sunday August 28th 2016:

We left the car exactly as it was after Sonnys race Saturday and I cruised to a very quick warmup time, earning me a front row spot(top 15) for qualifying. PTE is the slowest PT class, this was quite an achievement with ~64 cars in the rungroup.

We had a bit of a gamble with the prime-conditions Time Trial session butting right up against Race Qualifying at ~10am. So we set the car up for TT/Sonny, prioritizing a lap record for him over my race, counting on my home track advantage to carry me. We removed the ballast from the car and weighed it on a bathroom scale. We were also very particular about the fuel quantity added. 1 gallon of fuel is ~7lbs, remember this.

Sonny had time in the schedule(and fuel in the tank) for 2-3 hot laps before he had to come in. He needed to end his session early so that we could swap me into the car, pull the excess ballast from the trunk and add some fuel in grid before I rolled right back out for PT qualifying.

Well, he had issues with a certain TT3(four classes "faster") car being a rolling roadblock for a couple laps and ended up needing a 4th and 5th lap.
Eventually he got clear track, threw down an angry flyer of a lap and came in, late, using the full session. My qualifying run group released as he rolled onto the scales. He came in only 7lbs over minimum weight(2327lbs), so our prep was extremely successful.

I didn't make it to my grid spot in time for qualifying so I missed out on my front row spot and had to start the qualifying session from the back. I don't mind doing this at all, it's actually worked out really well for me all season.
I rolled out dead last, left a HUGE gap to the 944 in front of me and clicked off two flyers before being the first one off track. Good enough for Pole.

After I got done with qualifying, I learned that Sonny had posted a 1:42.4! We had to wait ALL day until after the 5th time trial session before it became official. Nobody went faster, so Sonny scored the win in TTE and the new record for "Team Dan Howard"!

I started my race from Pole, got a great start, maybe my best of the year and lead flag to flag, from start to finish. Ran a 1:43.3 on lap 11(late) in the race while ~50lbs over weight and 7whp down from cap and with 20* hotter ambient temps compared to Sonny's record lap. I felt super happy with that.


Saturday:
TTE win
PTE pole
PTE podium, 3rd

Sunday:
TTE win
TTE record
PTE pole
PTE win

Awesome.

doward 10-05-2016 09:05 PM

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doward 10-05-2016 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S (Post 1365588)
Who did your cage? Someone in Ohio I assume?

McMahan, "Rollcage Guy"
I believe he did your 'lude, right?

doward 10-05-2016 09:15 PM

Mid Ohio Club Course TTE track record.
No audio, sorry. We corrupted it moving it from card to laptop trackside.



Efini~FC3S 10-06-2016 08:49 AM


Originally Posted by doward (Post 1365595)
McMahan, "Rollcage Guy"
I believe he did your 'lude, right?

That's what I would have guessed based on the pictures. And yes, he did my Prelude and he's done the majority of other race cars I've driven in the past.

I've been nothing but impressed with his work, and his prices.

doward 10-06-2016 12:16 PM


Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S (Post 1365668)
That's what I would have guessed based on the pictures. And yes, he did my Prelude and he's done the majority of other race cars I've driven in the past.

I've been nothing but impressed with his work, and his prices.

Crazy value. I am very very happy with it.

doward 10-06-2016 12:25 PM

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So here we are, the end of the(my) season. I only planned on doing those four events, NCM, Mid O, Gingerman, Mid O.
At the end of August my wife and I moved to southern California where I started a new job with 949.

I left the car behind in Ohio and I toyed with selling it or putting it in storage. Ultimately I ended up shipping it out to Cali. I had still not decided on whether it would stay a PTE car or be converted to a SuperMiata.
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doward 10-06-2016 01:01 PM

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So begins Stage 3 "Pipe Dream"
"Pipe Dream" because the thought of going to either Championship never crossed my mind until after I won those Gingerman races. I didn't put any serious thought into, and never set aside the budget or planned the logistics for Watkins Glen until it was too late, we had already moved.
Western States Champs were even farther away, and even less likely at the time.

But here I am, working at 949, with Western States Championships being held only 4 hours away at Buttonwillow, and I did enough races back home to qualify to enter, and BW is sort of a home track for Sonny and Emilio, so... Hell yea, lets do it.


My car proved to be a decent regional contender as a rushed build, very mildly prepped and dyno reclassed. I(we) knew it would need to jump a couple large steps forward to put up a fight at the Championships on an unfamiliar track.

The plan was two parted: Chassis and motor.
The chassis would get a urethane bushing swap with offset front lowers for allthecamber. It would also get a full corner weight and Buttonwillow-specific alignment.
While the 6 point motor would get pulled and set aside for potential future SuperMiata use where it would be perfect with an oil pump and valve springs. In would go an OEM rebuild so that I could convert to a points-only build.

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Conversion from dyno reclass to points only:

On my dyno reclass, I am using a 6pt Spec Miata cylinder head, 1pt intake and 3pt exhaust. 10 points worth of mods. Early in the year I had a header as well (2 more points) and was "only" making 128-132whp. Back on the stock header it only made 123.
I was also running at 2320lbs, 6 points worth of weight reduction from my base class of 2410.
I was getting 16 or 18 points worth of mods for just 7, at the cost of an * being added to my base class and being forced to run at 17.8:1. Awesome value based on parts I had and budget for prep. If I had run on points alone I would have been in D all year.

All along I had planned to swap the AEM EMS ecu from my NA to the NB. That would be a 3pt mod I would get for free on a dyno reclass. It would allow me to shape the powerband and make it much, much easier to ride the fine edge of my power cap. Probably worth another second off every lap all season had it been done early on.

The points theory is that if you have a fresh motor, and you have an ECU that will allow running e85, it becomes possible to hit the class maximum P:W with fairly few points spent on power production.

Going from PTE* at 17.8:1 to a points built 16.5:1 makes the car much, much faster, even though it has to be 90lbs heavier in my case.

The points build looks like:
PTE @ 2410lbs
Intake +1
ECU +3(+e85)
Exhaust +3
Xida +5
Giken +3 (+4.77 ratio)
205/50/15 Hoosier R7 +3
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18 points.

I am still spending 7 on power and weight, but I'll be able to make much more than the old 132 peak, but I have to weigh 2410.

Efini~FC3S 10-07-2016 10:05 AM

Is a flat top worth it for the last point you have to spare? Slightly more area under the curve?

emilio700 10-07-2016 03:23 PM


Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S (Post 1365941)
Is a flat top worth it for the last point you have to spare? Slightly more area under the curve?

Not in this case. Engine is detuned to make power cap anyway. VICS makes a bit more down low which extends the plateau in a useful fashion.

doward 10-07-2016 08:23 PM

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The things you discover during a tear down.

Evidence of all the bump travel:
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b2...psgguq8ham.jpg

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Evidence of all the curb hops:
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This is the rear lower outer control arm to upright bolt, shaped like an "S".

Fresh Gen2 Xidas going in, 1000/500 like before, with gen2 Supermiata billet coaxial mounts in orange!
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Delrin offset front lower bushings for the forward, camber, position.
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Disregard the Ohio-condition control arms. ;)

pakmx5 10-08-2016 03:57 AM

Bump travel rubbing issues expected to get remedied?
When my NA got hit hard from the side, that long rear upright bolt got bent causing alignment issues. Definitely a good idea to keep a few good ones of those around, considering that shape is from hard driving alone
Nice build thread (:

Efini~FC3S 10-08-2016 09:46 AM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1366010)
Not in this case. Engine is detuned to make power cap anyway. VICS makes a bit more down low which extends the plateau in a useful fashion.

I thought that might be the case...there's got to be something useful to use that last point on?

emilio700 10-08-2016 11:30 PM


Originally Posted by pakmx5 (Post 1366119)
Bump travel rubbing issues expected to get remedied?

Not really an issue with either offset bushings or extended ball joints. You run enough spring rate for the tire and it only touches occasionally.


Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S (Post 1366126)
I thought that might be the case...there's got to be something useful to use that last point on?

We're pretty familiar with both the the rules and the platform and no one here could think of anything worthwhile. Beyond that, we're pressed for time. The MRLS event was a last minute jam to get ready after Taxi's engine failure during shakedown then several niggling issues with Deviate.
Then Dan broke his collar bone so John has had to do most of the prep. They are just now ready to fire the engine for the first time, I'll street tune it tonight on the cul-de-sac. Sonny and Dan will drive to BRP tonight and shakedown tomorrow. So anything that will potentially complicate things is being left out. Just get it reliable, make the power cap and go race.

edit: I just heard it fire up. Sounds healthy.

doward 10-09-2016 02:21 AM


Originally Posted by pakmx5 (Post 1366119)
Bump travel rubbing issues expected to get remedied?
When my NA got hit hard from the side, that long rear upright bolt got bent causing alignment issues. Definitely a good idea to keep a few good ones of those around, considering that shape is from hard driving alone
Nice build thread (:

I never said it was an "issue". ;)
That minuscule amount of polishing on the shock mount is the last 1% of bumpstop compression at 1.6g or after hopping a curb and going airborne. The rubbing through of the fender liners is simple self-clearancing.



Originally Posted by Efini~FC3S (Post 1366126)
I thought that might be the case...there's got to be something useful to use that last point on?

The two most obvious ones; Intake manifold and weight reduction, are both counter productive to the build plan.
An intake manifold makes it more peaky, which is bad against a power cap.
Weight reduction acts towards my P:W ratio further reducing my power cap. Raw power at the same P:W is preferable in my current situation since I have plenty of tire and brake.

The next option is a rear bumper cut, but a couple heavily data oriented people have recently proved that the rear bumper isn't actually the parachute we think it is. Plus I want the bumper support and foam piece to stay for bump draft protection.


So i'll run at 18 of 19 points. :(

Arca_ex 10-09-2016 03:16 AM

Vortex generators bro.

flier129 10-09-2016 06:07 PM

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Hell yeah @ the pipe-dream! I think we've discussed this route a time or two..... "it'd be really cool if I could go this route, but then the rules will change like next year!"

I see your bump-travel pic and raise you "springs too soft" ......
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This was from running 700/400 for too many events in TTE(R7s@2410lbs). If, for whatever reason, someone asks "why should I run 800/500 on my track car?" Just show them my picture here :rofl:


Good luck at BW man! Though, I know you'll do great, especially since you've got a support team backing ya up. :party:

Dunning Kruger Affect 10-10-2016 09:58 AM

Quick question, you mentioned that the NB was heads and shoulders above your NA that you had prepped with all of the bolt ons (all of them), including the NB front subframe. I take it that the comparison was NA w/ rollbar to NB w/ rollbar and the NB1 was just as fast on street tires due to the increased chassis rigidity, right?

I'm only asking because I assume that a caged NA with the NB subframe should be within spitting distance of a caged NB1.


doward 10-10-2016 01:44 PM


Originally Posted by Dunning Kruger Affect (Post 1366457)
Quick question, you mentioned that the NB was heads and shoulders above your NA ...

Sort of.
I actually said the NB was within a couple seconds, meaning it was slower.

My NA had years of prep, setup, etc, and I hopped in a 2600lb NB on KYbs and lowering springs and went nearly as fast. I saw the potential.

doward 10-12-2016 03:42 PM

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A couple bits of prep for NASA West Coast Championships:

We did a quick test day on the Rival-S left over from MRLS(dead) with Speed Ventures so I could do a few laps before showing up blind to the big show.

Car ran well, driver didn't hit anything. Mild success.
Driver needs to nut up in a couple spots and then we should be in the ballpark. I'll be the only non-local I think.

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New DIY cold air intake to replace my CARB Legal Racing Beat hot air unit.
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BIG drop in IATs was worth a bunch of midrange power.


The conversion to the points build meant I needed to add ~90lbs of ballast. That meant mix and matching my old plates with some of 949's ginormo plates. Placement is NOT ideal, do not take build advice from this photo:
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Champ Spec:
PTE base @2410lbs
Hoosier R7 205/50/15 (+10-7) +3
Intake +1
Exhaust +3
ECU +3
Supermiata Xida coilvers 1000/500 +5
LSD +3
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emilio700 10-12-2016 10:12 PM

Sonny and Dan rolled out on my 42' rig a few hours ago. Stop by the 949 Racing - Supermiata trailer if you are going to be at NASA West Coast Champs this weekend. Barring any unforseen problems, I think Dan has a good shot at the win on Sunday. Everyone here has busted ass for the last two weeks getting everything built, shaken down, tuned, prepped and loaded. Go get em!

emilio700 10-14-2016 12:55 PM

Sonny and Dan did the Buttonwillow test day yesterday. No issues. Today is the first day of qualifying races. Another qual race tomorrow then Championship race Sunday
Live Stream: NASA Pro Racing on Livestream
Live timing results (Group E, class PTE, car #103): https://racehero.io/orgs/nasa

Blowing the MCE dyno because that's what all the cool kids are doing

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Set up and ready to race

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Gave it a much needed bath

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Arca_ex 10-14-2016 01:00 PM

Tell MCE to eat a bag of dicks for me.

emilio700 10-14-2016 01:20 PM

Charlie Hayes (PTD) looks super fast in warmup, only .8s off PTB fast lap by Dave Schotz. No one in D is within 6s of him.
Dan and Justin Ross are trading fast lap in warmup (E). That's probably gonna be a dog fight.

emilio700 10-14-2016 06:35 PM

Dan dropped a wheel in qual but sill managed P2 for todays qual race that is starting right now. Looks to be a close fight with So Cal local Justin Ross in the green #147 NA.
Justin qual result was tossed when he was underweight so he's starting at the back.

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jpreston 10-14-2016 06:53 PM

Looking like a good fight between Dan and Justin! (assuming I correctly identified Justin's car)

emilio700 10-14-2016 07:13 PM

Justin got to Dans bumper and they ran nose to tail for 8 laps. Fun to watch the battle on the live feed. Around lap 8 Justin Ross went off while battling with Dan and finished 2 laps down. Looking good for Sunday

emilio700 10-14-2016 08:07 PM

Does anyone know anything about the purple PTB Miata driven by Austin Newmark? It's fast.

Arca_ex 10-14-2016 11:08 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1367711)
Does anyone know anything about the purple PTB Miata driven by Austin Newmark? It's fast.

What would you like to know?

He's also one of those drivers that was a child prodigy kart racer as well I believe, he is fast as hell regardless of what he's driving.

emilio700 10-14-2016 11:16 PM

Everything, pics. Although it's a bit of thread drift. Maybe new thread.

Arca_ex 10-15-2016 04:29 AM

You might know the previous owners. Last name Niemeyer I believe? The guy driving it now has only driven it at a handful of events. It is loosely based on crusher but the engine is a 2.0l IIRC and it's running an AEM infinity tuned by Tony at UMS Tuning. He tuned my car as well. So Xidas, os giken, etc etc, you've seen it all before, the kid driving is crazy fast. I believe he has a couple 944 spec championships under his belt as well.

Btw it made 174 on Tony's dynapack and 176 on the local compliance dynojet all in...

flier129 10-15-2016 10:15 AM


Originally Posted by Arca_ex (Post 1367752)
Btw it made 174 on Tony's dynapack and 176 on the local compliance dynojet all in...

And it's running PTB? Wow


Because apparently I can't internet this morning, could somebody tell which configuration this is........ CCW 25?

Arca_ex 10-15-2016 10:54 AM


Originally Posted by flier129 (Post 1367767)
And it's running PTB? Wow


Because apparently I can't internet this morning, could somebody tell which configuration this is........ CCW 25?


Yeah but on the MCE dyno they are using at nationals it pulled nearly 200WHP... I don't know what their solution to that is. That thing is a random number generator.

flier129 10-15-2016 11:01 AM


Originally Posted by Arca_ex (Post 1367771)
Yeah but on the MCE dyno they are using at nationals it pulled nearly 200WHP... I don't know what their solution to that is. That thing is a random number generator.

Lol, solid point. Gota build a car with 20% less power than your given cap just to make compliance on that MCE dyno :rofl:

I'm just surprised it's competitive in PTB with that power, but it probably doesn't weigh much. And like you said, alien driver.

Savington 10-15-2016 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by Arca_ex (Post 1367752)
You might know the previous owners. Last name Niemeyer I believe? The guy driving it now has only driven it at a handful of events. It is loosely based on crusher but the engine is a 2.0l IIRC and it's running an AEM infinity tuned by Tony at UMS Tuning. He tuned my car as well. So Xidas, os giken, etc etc, you've seen it all before, the kid driving is crazy fast. I believe he has a couple 944 spec championships under his belt as well.

Btw it made 174 on Tony's dynapack and 176 on the local compliance dynojet all in...

I built that motor for the Niemeyers originally. 198whp is hilarious - I wish a stock-cam 2-liter BP made that, I'd sell a lot more of them :party:

Arca_ex 10-15-2016 03:49 PM

The cams aren't stock anymore and it's been rebuilt since then as well I think due to oil cooler failure. I believe the big tomei sticks are in there now.

doward 10-15-2016 05:14 PM

He's pitted right next to me.

Yea. It failed quickly after they got it.
They rebuilt it, added a swirl pot and a big fancy fuel system and cams and...

198 on MCE
187 on 7s only.

They added ~160lbs of ballast and just got a new reclass.
Still 1-2 seconds off of their Thursday test time.

He did the same thing I did(dropping a wheel in bustop) and is borrowing one of our spare wheels today.

i have some pics I can post later.

But for now I know it has an RB header, AEM Infinity on e85, cams, airdam/wing, 225/45 R7, 1000/500 Xida and the biggest RB front bar.

doward 10-15-2016 05:16 PM

Live update, sent to MCE after TT #1. 184whp.

So the the exact same tune has done

198 MCE
187 7s only
184 MCE

aidandj 10-15-2016 06:18 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1367711)
Does anyone know anything about the purple PTB Miata driven by Austin Newmark? It's fast.

Announcers just claimed it was originally built by you.

:dunno:

aidandj 10-15-2016 06:35 PM

Looks like Ross got black flagged, so I think Dan gets the win today in qual?

(no idea how this just works, just looking at times)

Edit: Because no brake lights....oops

emilio700 10-15-2016 06:44 PM

Yup, black flagged for no brake lights. Just before Dan loaded up Wednesday I recall reminding him to check his brake lights. Sometimes I feel like a worry wart but then stuff like that happens. So anyway, Dan has P1 for the championship race and his primary competition, Justin Ross, will start last.
Dan's race to lose at this point. Just got to keep the car together and stay out of trouble. Sonny is there with him crewing and knows our enduro protocol for racing conservatively when things are in your favor. Just bring it home guys!

aidandj 10-15-2016 06:45 PM

Dan had him beat pretty good at that point anyways. Good racing Dan.

Good luck tomorrow.

emilio700 10-15-2016 07:03 PM


Originally Posted by aidandj (Post 1367825)
Dan had him beat pretty good at that point anyways. Good racing Dan.

Good luck tomorrow.

To be fair, I think Justin started at the back and came through traffic to be 6s behind Dan, who started on pole. So Justin was a very real threat. The gap between them tomorrow at the green flag means Dan doesn't have to worry about Justin really. If Dan just drives clean and maybe .5~1s off max, Justin will never reach him nor will Roman. So the focus has to be not on sheer speed but making 100% sure the car will last and that he stays out of trouble. Just like racing an enduro. That's why I mention Sonny. It's a different mental place that Dan has to get into. Relaxed and in control. He's totally got the attitude and skill set to do that so it's looking good for Sunday.

aidandj 10-15-2016 07:06 PM

Is qualifying for PT fastest lap? Or first one to the checkered. The announcers made it seem like it was first to the checkered.

doward 10-15-2016 07:16 PM

In impound post race.

A miata won B(Austin Newmark), C(josh allan), D(Charlie Hayes), and E(Dan howard).

Nasa asked all of us to go get our laptops and cables to show our ecu maps. They have not sent any of us to the dyno.

Yesterday, like 9 or 10 different PTx cars all blew the dyno, including the series director, so I think they're hesitant to use MCE for PT. They're still using it for TTx.

aidandj 10-15-2016 07:24 PM

What do they look for in your maps?

Savington 10-15-2016 07:29 PM


Originally Posted by doward (Post 1367831)
Yesterday, like 9 or 10 different PTx cars all blew the dyno, including the series director, so I think they're hesitant to use MCE for PT. They're still using it for TTx.

fucking LOL :rofl:

emilio700 10-15-2016 07:47 PM

Ah, Niemeyer's car. That car has a great big pile of parts from us and a little Crusher tech via phone consultations. Cool that he's that close to Schotz with 2365#/ 196whp in B. 2.0L dyno classed. 2013 nats at Miller I ran Crusher at 2108# (IIRC) /192whp on points with a 0 point 1861cc bottom end. Got my ass kicked by Schotz with that 1/2 mile front straight. He'd put 6s on me there (not exaggerating), I'd gain 3s back on the rest of the course, for a net 3s loss. Brought a knife to a gun fight I did. Buttonwillow is a different story though.

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...258e42ebac.jpg


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Dan called to ask if the MSPNP2 will datalog. Not without a laptop and our $2k, 9lb gaming laptop ain't going in the car Sunday. Funny that they are apparently only snooping the NA/NB Miatas since they uh, won 3 of the 4 PT classes.
Hopefully they won't change any PT rules until the ST classes come online in '18.

Measuring the flatout
https://cimg0.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...55edb5818a.jpg

After the todays qual race

https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...d1509d1c60.jpg

Arca_ex 10-15-2016 10:27 PM

Just heard that another friend in an Integra in TTC magically gained 13whp since yesterday on MCE. Only change was a newer set of tires...

Also good job out there man. Keep up the good work.

doward 10-16-2016 02:07 PM

2:03.2 in TTE.
Cleared the dyno 6whp under cap.

Tending to a small misfire caused by a loose coilpack before the race.


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