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EO2K 09-19-2014 12:45 PM

Ouch... was that the stock IHI turbo?

Mazduh 09-19-2014 01:29 PM


Originally Posted by midpack (Post 1168577)
It's expensive, especially once you upgrade to a 3" exhaust. But oh so easy and complete. FM kit will install in an afternoon, diy will take me weeks trying to find and get parts. It's the oil and water lines I really want, I think those will be the hardest to source. What turbo are you going with?



Thanks!

Probably the same as you, the 2560r. I was considering sourcing a 2860rgtx since their almost the same price, but I as well don't really have the funds for a built motor right now and the 2860 is just too much of a tease. I can always upgrade down the road later and recoupe some costs selling the 2560.

The goal is 230-240hp stock motor. I can only seem to flow about 210 on the stock ihi. Kinda expensive for a 20-30hp increase, but I figure the 2560 will give some better top end and be under less stress than maxing out the little IHI.

I was considering just going to BNR and having the stocker rebuilt and upgraded to a small 16g, that way I can retain my piping and stuff, put for the $1300 they want, mineswell just do the whole thing.

What do you run for a front swaybar? Do you run one in the rear?

midpack 09-19-2014 04:20 PM

Yes, stock IHI turbo.

Wow we really are in the same boat and are thinking the same things. Either we're both crazy or we're on to something. Savington recommends the 2871 vs 2860 but I don't know if that changes vs the GTX. It gives yuou a more headroom with minimal loss of spool.

Front sway: FM
Rear sway: stock MSM
Running the original version of FM VMaxxxxxxxxxxxxx. Xida upgrade funds have been redirected to a new turbo setup

FrankL 09-23-2014 07:54 AM

Did the tip of the shaft break? Happen at Hallett?

midpack 09-23-2014 10:58 PM

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Yep, end of my 3rd session Friday morning of Miatas@Hallett.

Shaft broke on the exhaust side. There's just a tiny bit of shaft play now

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1411527509

I think this turbine is totally salvageable, just need a file and bit of JB Weld

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1411527509

Ryephile 09-23-2014 11:12 PM

Fun read up until the broken turbo. Any idea what caused it?

FrankL 09-24-2014 10:04 AM

Wow. That's serious carnage. Sucks!

midpack 09-26-2014 07:05 PM

Ordered some parts today.

1.8 NB Axial Manifold
3" SG Downpipe
Test Pipe
Exhaust w/ 5x8x18 Magnaflow

EO2K 09-26-2014 11:22 PM

Did someone drop some cheddar on ARTech?

midpack 09-28-2014 01:49 AM

That I did. Trying to decide if I want to wait 3 additional weeks to have it ceramic coated.

midpack 12-05-2014 07:57 PM

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The wait is almost over.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1417827425

midpack 12-15-2014 12:41 AM

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Installed some parts this weekend. Abe does some fantastic work, very impressed. Waiting on a few things to button it up, maybe next weekend it will be ready for a first start.

So much room around the turbo. Installation was a breeze.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1418622072

I don't know how, but there is plenty of clearance around this big ass exhaust.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1418622072

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1418622072

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1418622072


Lots of clearance everywhere...but here. The tip also get crushed slightly in transit, a lack of packaging no doubt contributed to the damage.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1418622072

Onyxyth 12-19-2014 10:13 AM

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Hey that Turbo looks familiar ;)

Looks good. The tip on my Artech exhaust was bent from shipping as well. Looked almost exactly like that. I straightened it with a few good hits from a ball peen hammer.

Attachment 238568

midpack 12-21-2014 04:48 PM

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Abe offered to send an exhaust expander to fix the tip. That guy is seriously awesome.

I got pissed off and quit yesterday when I got to the oil drain. No way are the AN fittings going to fit, they run straight into the steering shaft. Not that it matters, I'd need some angled fittings anyway. Didn't realize just how short of a line I need.

Here's a shot with the 1/2" NPT to AN10 fitting installed.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1419198520

Schuyler 12-21-2014 05:01 PM

Is that one v-band 90 piece to replace the axle-back with a turn down? And if so, what are you doing about the lack of hangers on the midpipe?

aidandj 12-21-2014 05:08 PM


Originally Posted by midpack (Post 1191037)
Abe offered to send an exhaust expander to fix the tip. That guy is seriously awesome.

I got pissed off and quit yesterday when I got to the oil drain. No way are the AN fittings going to fit, they run straight into the steering shaft. Not that it matters, I'd need some angled fittings anyway. Didn't realize just how short of a line I need.

Here's a shot with the 1/2" NPT to AN10 fitting installed.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1419198520

I just dealt with this. Check out the last couple posts in my build thread for how I fixed it. I ended up with push lock fittings because they were shorter.

Also doesn't the oil drain need to be pointed straight down?

midpack 12-21-2014 06:12 PM

Thanks, I might give that a try. Integrated AN10 fitting on the flange would also give me a little more room.

I've got a 90* AN fitting for the feed and it doesn't fit with the drain pointed straight down. Garrett says the oil drain can be clocked up to 35*

IcantDo55 12-22-2014 01:09 AM

Subed for info. Good build man. Hope to be working on my MSM soon.

Lokiel 12-22-2014 10:21 PM


Originally Posted by midpack (Post 1189553)

Do whatever you can to make some decent clearance between the exhaust and bumper, even if it means cutting up your bumper to achieve it - burnt rear bumpers look and smell nasty.

midpack 12-22-2014 11:51 PM


Originally Posted by Lokiel (Post 1191342)
Do whatever you can to make some decent clearance between the exhaust and bumper, even if it means cutting up your bumper to achieve it - burnt rear bumpers look and smell nasty.

No need to cut things up, longer exhaust hangers will do the trick. The melted bits in the picture are from my old exhaust, before replacing rubber hangers with urethane.

FM sells a nice set of urethane "long" hangers, I think they are a bit too long for my use. May pickup another set somewhere between stock and the FM long ones, it hangs a bit too low for my liking. After I get it running that is. Ordered a box of parts to redo the oil feed and drain lines.


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