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Old May 22, 2026 | 03:31 PM
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Originally Posted by SimBa
Awesome stuff in here. Coroplast ducting is surprisingly durable. I had a piece dragging on the asphalt for a good while and it ground down a bit, but not too bad.

I like those door cards as well. I've thought about trying to do something like that in the past but never committed to it. Fit and finish looks good to me.

I want to say Fire used those eBay civic splitter mounts as well? Maybe they were supposed to be for an NC and not a Civic.

Regardless, welcome and great intro

ETA - I'm running a DW200 with flex fuel and haven't seen issues from it around 300+ WHP. IIRC the 640's should be okay to around 250-300 on E
I think I made just a tad over 300WHP with my 2560R on Ethanol (not sure what %, I adjusted the tune each time I filled up lol) using FlowForce’s 660cc injector kit on a stock NB1 pump and FPR. I don’t remember my duty cycle, though.
Old May 22, 2026 | 03:40 PM
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Originally Posted by VagusNerves
Bbk: yeah for the nc we'll upgrade to the keisler set for sure once its needed. What were you running on your NA?

Nc cams: did you prefer the fab9 stage 1 or the Brian Crowder stage 2 when you were still na? (Top of the head but I think I'm remembering those were the cams you had.)

Tunnels: had these alu tunnels on the v1 splitter and swapped them to the wider v2 when I made it. The old narrower, shorter splitter + ramps overpowered the lexan spoiler but was not enough for the wing - had to run at basically 0* to not induce understeer.
With the v2 splitter + ramps I adjusted the wing down and somewhere around 5* is a good balance. For ***** and giggles I added in like 10* AoA and it defo wasn't balanced but wasn't undriveable by any means.

Another note on the wing - was originally looking at the 9LR big **** but ended up the WingLogic MSHD in large part due to Occams write ups on his blog. And it was more cost effective and I'm a cheap bastard. Not sure if he's still active here or not but the wing is phenomenal. Dropped 3-4 seconds on my ~1:30 lap times with no other changes. Its a bit draggy for a na car but the track I frequent is short (Hallett) with no real long straights so I didn't feel the impact too much. My vmax is ~5mph faster at the end of the front straight with the wing compared to before.
Nice. Yeah the Keisler kit is a great call. Couple hundred less than the SakeBomb kit too IIRC. You’ll be stoked.

For cams, I’d unquestionably run the Fab9 stage 1’s again. With the Esslinger Stage 2’s, I wound up with a substantial torque dip at 5k rpm (right where you don’t want it) and the motor still wanted to make more power past 7.2k rpm (already past the generally recommended 7k limit). The Fab9’s make more power everywhere under 6.3k, and flatline around 7.2k. Long story short, much better powerband in my experience.

Re: wing stuff. That’s sick to hear you had such great results with it. You’re saying you ran 5mph slower at the end of the straight with the wing vs without, right? I never experimented with large AOA changes like you did. My car’s pretty balanced with 0-3* so I never went outside that range, but I did feel like it started turning into a parachute at 3* when the car was N/A
Old May 22, 2026 | 03:44 PM
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Originally Posted by Z_WAAAAAZ
Nice. Yeah the Keisler kit is a great call. Couple hundred less than the SakeBomb kit too IIRC. You’ll be stoked.

For cams, I’d unquestionably run the Fab9 stage 1’s again. With the Esslinger Stage 2’s, I wound up with a substantial torque dip at 5k rpm (right where you don’t want it) and the motor still wanted to make more power past 7.2k rpm (already past the generally recommended 7k limit). The Fab9’s make more power everywhere under 6.3k, and flatline around 7.2k. Long story short, much better powerband in my experience.

Re: wing stuff. That’s sick to hear you had such great results with it. You’re saying you ran 5mph slower at the end of the straight with the wing vs without, right? I never experimented with large AOA changes like you did. My car’s pretty balanced with 0-3* so I never went outside that range, but I did feel like it started turning into a parachute at 3* when the car was N/A
Cams: Great info. Thanks. Will go with fab9 when the time to swap comes.

Wing: No, I'm going 5mph faster at the end of the straight. I can carry so much more speed through the turn before the straight that the drag doesn't present any negative effects.
Old May 22, 2026 | 08:52 PM
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I'm running nil aero as class I am currently running prohibits additional aero, but I have the makings of a splitter and a 9LR big wing ready to rock when I have the urge to take the next step - was therefore very interested in those splitter tunnels. You handmade those in one piece?! I think I will give it a go, but use angle to mount as my build thread demonstrates, metalworking is not one of my strengths LOL!
Old May 22, 2026 | 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Gee Emm
I'm running nil aero as class I am currently running prohibits additional aero, but I have the makings of a splitter and a 9LR big wing ready to rock when I have the urge to take the next step - was therefore very interested in those splitter tunnels. You handmade those in one piece?! I think I will give it a go, but use angle to mount as my build thread demonstrates, metalworking is not one of my strengths LOL!
Metal work is definitely not my strong suit either but can't get better without giving it a go and seeing what happens. In hindsight could have used a slightly thinner gauge if the mounting points are sturdy/the tunnel fits in the cut nice and tight. Couldn't bend it easily by hand so made a modified bending brake with old bedframe rails clamped to my workbench.

No matter what if you do try it go for an aluminum alloy that is actually bendable. My dumbass bought 6061 and just struggled through it.

Mark out like so (not my pic):


Old May 26, 2026 | 09:45 AM
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Originally Posted by VagusNerves
How is everyone running inlet brake ducts with a removable air dam? Ive seen the twist locks but getting to that isnt ideal and would rather not have another fixture to fiddle with during set up/tear down. Was planning to have my friend design and print something like this to add inside the radiator ducting near the front then run the tubing out the side and back. 949 has the pic of the tubing going into the ducting but no pics (that I could find) of the actual inlet piece.
I've wondered why more people don't use the area under the radiator to feed oil coolers or brake ducts. 9Lives has a massive block off plate here as a selling point, I don't think it would be too terribly hard to make a formed aluminum duct or 3d print something to take air from the sides of that block off plate to the area under/behind the sway bar mount. A few pieces of foam to serve as a seal between the inlets and the removable splitter and you could leave them hard mounted to the chassis.



Maybe I'm missing something obviously making that a bad idea when I stare at my basically stock car though.
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