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Originally Posted by cordycord
(Post 928239)
Impressive.
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 928257)
and while we are on combined stats:
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 928262)
and on presidents actions (or lack there of) on unemployment, by one of my favs.
Whoever authord that (no, I can't be bothered to google it) is either negligently ignorant or intentionally disingenuous. |
It's in the quote:
Where's President Harding when you need him? Thomas Sowell on how '20s leader saw economy rebound – by doing nothing |
Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack
(Post 928333)
That's not really a totally fair stat as I am 90% sure those are non-inflation adjusted dollars. Also, [insert my usual disclaimer on the Federal government debt being the single most misunderstood element of modern economics].
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taking advantage
http://freebeacon.com/chinese-genera...re-for-combat/
Ever notice how the Chinese, the Russians, various dictators and most recently Al Qaeda take advantage of world unrest in order to press their agenda? Should we be taking notes? |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 928340)
It's in the quote:
Where's President Harding when you need him? Thomas Sowell on how '20s leader saw economy rebound – by doing nothing |
redistribution
"...I actually do believe in redistribution..." Barak Obama I never would have guessed. |
Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack
(Post 928333)
Sheesh.
Also, [insert my usual disclaimer on the Federal government debt being the single most misunderstood element of modern economics]. |
Originally Posted by cordycord
(Post 928356)
Either it can't be understood by anyone but Jack (even experts), or....well, that's just it. :giggle:
Look at all the people (Buffet, Greenspan, etc) that came out after the debt downgrade and explained how ridiculous the idea of a US govt insolvency was. |
Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack
(Post 928403)
Because a person uses it to manipulate popular opinion or politicizes to rile up the masses does not mean they don't understand it. :idea:
Look at all the people (Buffet, Greenspan, etc) that came out after the debt downgrade and explained how ridiculous the idea of a US govt insolvency was. Once that's established, good old common sense seems to take over... |
You keep trying to use middle school math to understand the financial accounting of various national monetary systems and let me know how well that works out for you. You can keep all those fear-mongering newsletter writers* company while you wait around for the mythical bond vigilantes, money multiplier and American collapse into hyperinflation.
Meanwhile, I'll keep making money using a proper understanding of reality based on the research and writings of the guys that have gotten almost every major economic call of the past 25 years correct. :party: *Fun fact: many of those same newsletters that have been predicting imminent hyperinflation and global stock market collapse for the past 4 years have not raised their dollar-denominated prices. |
Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack
(Post 928537)
You keep trying to use middle school math to understand the financial accounting of various national monetary systems and let me know how well that works out for you. You can keep all those fear-mongering newsletter writers* company while you wait around for the mythical bond vigilantes, money multiplier and American collapse into hyperinflation.
Meanwhile, I'll keep making money using a proper understanding of reality based on the research and writings of the guys that have gotten almost every major economic call of the past 25 years correct. :party: *Fun fact: many of those same newsletters that have been predicting imminent hyperinflation and global stock market collapse for the past 4 years have not raised their dollar-denominated prices. My point about your fancy formulas and fiat currency is that at the core if there is no confidence in the people behind the currency, there will be no value to the currency. Hamilton knew this, and you do too Scrappy. |
Oh. Yes, if we are pivoting from "people misunderstand the Federal government sector debt" to "currency has an element of social contract" and also "there has been some inflation," then we are on the same page as I agree with both. :)
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And, because this is a picture thread:
Link for full size http://www.ritholtz.com/blog/wp-cont...9/income-1.png |
And just in case you are too lazy to even look at a picture (like those damn 47%ers) here is the above chart in video form.
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I dont see the problem with it...Im sure the ones with the lowest income take advantage of more state programs than the rest.
plus, the difference is only a couple %...which im sure is the difference of 20-30$ a year? |
Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack
(Post 928593)
Oh. Yes, if we are pivoting from "people misunderstand the Federal government sector debt" to "currency has an element of social contract" and also "there has been some inflation," then we are on the same page as I agree with both. :)
If Big Ben is firing up the printing presses in order to fund QE3, then our monetary policy has a direct correlation to debt. My concern is if the debt bubble unwinds--which is a very real possibility--then everything we've discussed will happen. |
Originally Posted by cordycord
(Post 928691)
[I]f the debt bubble unwinds--which is a very real possibility--then everything we've discussed will happen.
No really though...what would the bubble "unwinding" entail? |
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Originally Posted by mgeoffriau
(Post 928698)
Can bubbles unwind? Spools can unwind, but I'm not sure about bubbles.
No really though...what would the bubble "unwinding" entail? |
hey look, a tax on the middle class.
CBO raises estimate of those hit by Obama health care tax - Washington Times |
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