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Braineack 03-28-2017 12:07 PM


Originally Posted by ridethecliche (Post 1401845)
And re: real content.
The words of an anesthesiologist that has never examined her? Would you go see an anesthesiologist if you had neurological symptoms? I wouldn't!
A stroke can temporarily mimic parkinsonism, so can drug reactions, and there are a crap ton of side effects of thyroid hormones getting too low or even too high (she has hypothyroidism, right?).

you're still not looking that content.

it was very simple:

claim: events are suggesting the P is true.
media: well, X campaign said Y so Y is true and P is not.
interviewee: I don't believe Y because Y has not be verified. When Z campaign said W, you immediately say W false because Z said so and you don't like Z.

bahurd 03-28-2017 12:10 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1401847)
coincidentally, they all happen to be people/entities opposed to trump.

No shit...

Braineack 03-28-2017 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by bahurd (Post 1401849)
No shit...

the media used to be so much more flexible about russia.

bahurd 03-28-2017 12:37 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1401852)
the media used to be so much more flexible about russia.

I thought it was funny that Breitbart, over the 3 day period the rest of the world news organizations had coverage, chose to show nothing of the Russian protests. Today, nonetheless, they have an article on Trumps call to investigate Hillary.

Real news...

Braineack 03-28-2017 12:46 PM

possibly because there's more evidence in that claim then been produced in the last 8 months of the trump/russia fabricated story?

they wrote a single story about the russia protest yesterday, and there's a single story covering trumps tweet today. what's so funny?


there;s also a few stories about NK. is trump and NK trying to nuke the world now by direction of secret orders given through news stories of breitbart?

triple88a 03-28-2017 01:35 PM

Whos keeping score?

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...07453d03ee.jpg

Braineack 03-28-2017 03:03 PM

looking good!

remember obama's #1 promise:

http://weldbham.com/wp-content/uploa...h-at-gitmo.jpg

Braineack 03-28-2017 03:08 PM


bahurd 03-28-2017 03:28 PM


White House calls for domestic cuts to finance border wall

WASHINGTON — President Donald Trump is proposing immediate budget cuts of $18 billion from programs like medical research, infrastructure and community grants so U.S. taxpayers, not Mexico, can cover the down payment on the border wall.

The White House documents were submitted to Congress amid negotiations over a catchall spending bill that would avert a partial government shutdown at the end of next month. The package would wrap up $1.1 trillion in unfinished spending bills and address the Trump administration's request for an immediate $30 billion in additional Pentagon spending.

The latest Trump proposal, disclosed Tuesday, would eliminate $1.2 billion in National Institutes of Health research grants, a favorite of both parties. The community development block grant program, also popular, would be halved, amounting to a cut of $1.5 billion, and Trump would strip $500 million from a transportation project known as TIGER grants.

Like Trump's 2018 proposed budget, which was panned by both Democrats and Republicans earlier this month, the proposals have little chance of being enacted.
White House calls for domestic cuts to finance border wall

ridethecliche 03-28-2017 03:52 PM

You can't convert that medical into a coherent argument because the principles are off.

​​​​​​A group of symptoms can be any number of things. As a physician not privy to the patient or all the necessary charts can't make a diagnosis. Conjecture? Sure, but that hardly counts as logical.

This is also why folks like me thought that the article on Trump having side effects from the drug he takes to prevent hair loss was bogus. The author may have been a physician, but what he was doing didn't pass for medicine or medical reasoning.


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1401883)
looking good!

remember obama's #1 promise:

http://weldbham.com/wp-content/uploa...h-at-gitmo.jpg

Most liberals I know, including those that supported him, thought that he dropped the ball on that big time. Same with American foreign policy re increase in drone strikes.

Oh wait, never mind. We all think exactly the same and fall behind whatever it is that our party leaders think.

bahurd 03-28-2017 04:48 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1401883)

remember obama's Trump's #1 promise:

Re-appropriated your post...

Sourced from Politico so probably fake news but it looks like the sensible republicans in Congress are going to split off his border wall funds so they can vote on something that might pass.

Maybe... might.


Congress may stiff Trump on wall funding
Republicans are afraid of losing a government shutdown showdown.

Congressional Republicans might deliver some more bad news for President Donald Trump, fresh off their embarrassing failure to scrap Obamacare: No new money is coming to build his wall.

Trump hoped to jump-start construction of a massive wall on the U.S.-Mexico border with money in a must-pass government funding bill. But Democratic leaders are vowing to block any legislation that includes a single penny for the wall.

With the GOP consumed by its own divisions, the White House and Hill Republicans will have to rely on Democratic votes to avoid a government shutdown next month in what would be another disaster for Trump’s fledgling presidency.

Republican leaders, wary of this, are considering a plan that would not directly tie the border wall money to the April 28 government funding deadline. Some Republican insiders worry that the president cannot afford another major legislative setback — and they believe a shutdown showdown would result in just that.

While no decision has been made by GOP leadership, Republican lawmakers may decide to decouple the two to avoid a confrontation with Democrats. If they do, the chances of getting Trump’s wall funding passed this spring become slim.

“It remains to be seen,” said Senate Majority Whip John Cornyn (R-Texas) in an interview. “What I would like to see is a plan for how the money would be spent and a good faith discussion about what border security is really composed of. We haven’t had that.”

Asked about the prospects for a lapse in government funding, Cornyn was definitive: “There’s not going to be a shutdown.”

Braineack 03-28-2017 04:50 PM

weird, so he's NOT dictator? just to be clear?

bahurd 03-28-2017 05:07 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1401906)
weird, so he's NOT dictator? just to be clear?

Just a wannabee...

cordycord 03-28-2017 07:23 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1401906)
weird, so he's NOT dictator? just to be clear?

Trump didn't win on "Hope & Change". He won on a very clear and concise list of promises, and a BIG one was BUILD THE WALL. The smart cookies in Congress realize that their jobs depend on whether they come through with their promises to the people, whether it be "repeal & replace" or "build the wall". It's amazing--people are starting to remember again that the President--and all the little wonks in the House--answer to the PEOPLE.

ridethecliche 03-28-2017 07:43 PM


Originally Posted by cordycord (Post 1401944)
Trump didn't win on "Hope & Change". He won on a very clear and concise list of promises, and a BIG one was BUILD THE WALL. The smart cookies in Congress realize that their jobs depend on whether they come through with their promises to the people, whether it be "repeal & replace" or "build the wall". It's amazing--people are starting to remember again that the President--and all the little wonks in the House--answer to the PEOPLE.

If this was actually true, both factions would actually try to work together instead of trying to constantly one-up each other like this was some sort of game.

cordycord 03-28-2017 07:48 PM


Originally Posted by ridethecliche (Post 1401949)
If this was actually true, both factions would actually try to work together instead of trying to constantly one-up each other like this was some sort of game.

The political class is very clever--D & R's. Doublespeak is their normal language, and fake news is their best friend. With PAC money they can fool their constituents for decades.

triple88a 03-29-2017 01:56 PM

Crowdfunding campaign seeks to purchase search history of lawmakers who killed internet privacy

Republicans in Congress just voted to allow Americans’ browser history to be bought and sold. A genius crowdfunding campaign wants to use that against them.

The website searchinternethistory.com is attempting to raise $1 million in order to put in bids to purchase the internet history of leading Republicans and Federal Communications Commission (FCC) members. The first histories the site aims to buy are those of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky), House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wisconsin), Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn (R-Tennessee), and FCC Chairman Ajit Pai.

“If it takes a million dollars to get real change, I am sure a million people are willing to donate $1 to help ensure their private data stays private,” wrote Adam McElhaney, who launched a GoFundMe campaign for the endeavor.

McElhaney clarified on the GoFundMe campaign’s site that while he understands the privacy risks of using social media, the privacy rules Congress just eliminated goes far beyond what he feels is acceptable.

“I understand that what I put on the Internet is out there and not private. Those are the risks you assume. I’m not ashamed of what I put out on the Internet,” he wrote. “However, I don’t think that what I lookup on the Internet, what sites I visit, my browsing habits, should be bought and sold to whoever. Without my consent.”

shuiend 03-29-2017 02:09 PM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 1402136)
Crowdfunding campaign seeks to purchase search history of lawmakers who killed internet privacy

Republicans in Congress just voted to allow Americans’ browser history to be bought and sold. A genius crowdfunding campaign wants to use that against them.

The website searchinternethistory.com is attempting to raise $1 million in order to put in bids to purchase the internet history of leading Republicans and Federal Communications Commission (FCC) members. The first histories the site aims to buy are those of Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky), House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wisconsin), Congresswoman Marsha Blackburn (R-Tennessee), and FCC Chairman Ajit Pai.

“If it takes a million dollars to get real change, I am sure a million people are willing to donate $1 to help ensure their private data stays private,” wrote Adam McElhaney, who launched a GoFundMe campaign for the endeavor.

McElhaney clarified on the GoFundMe campaign’s site that while he understands the privacy risks of using social media, the privacy rules Congress just eliminated goes far beyond what he feels is acceptable.

“I understand that what I put on the Internet is out there and not private. Those are the risks you assume. I’m not ashamed of what I put out on the Internet,” he wrote. “However, I don’t think that what I lookup on the Internet, what sites I visit, my browsing habits, should be bought and sold to whoever. Without my consent.”

From what I understand, you can't buy specific people's info. It all gets anonymized before sale. So you buy info on users who are most likely in certain categories so that you can better advertise to them.

rleete 03-29-2017 02:15 PM

And who do you think put that bill up for adoption in the first place? Google, Amazon, etc. have far deeper pockets than a measly million bucks, and there is far more at stake for them as well.

They can (and I'm betting did) put up a hell of a lot more money than $1 mil to get that bill introduced in the first place.

bahurd 03-29-2017 02:46 PM


Originally Posted by rleete (Post 1402140)
And who do you think put that bill up for adoption in the first place? Google, Amazon, etc. have far deeper pockets than a measly million bucks, and there is far more at stake for them as well.

They can (and I'm betting did) put up a hell of a lot more money than $1 mil to get that bill introduced in the first place.

Should you care to look;

Google

Amazon

Spoiler alert, they both contributed more $$$ to Rep than Dem by party. Also, just a quick tour through the individual contributions for Google shows predominately Mountain View CA (google home) which tends to be majority Democratic would lead you to believe the PAC actually gave money outside of the leanings of the contributors. Maybe not... Ironic if so.


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