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Originally Posted by mitymazda
(Post 1448046)
Donald didn't win it , Hilary lost it. No one, no one came out to vote for that bag. I mean shit Trump won Wisconsin with less votes then Romney lost it with when he ran. Turns out identity politics and calling half of America racist bigot homophobs isn't a unifying message. Make America great again is Super lowest common denominator but it's hard to not look like a douche and say that making America is great again is bad. And for those who say America is great... your right, but it could use some work too. I mean it's Fucking illegal and you can be charged with a crime for calling a man a man in this state of he says he feels like a woman for Christ sake.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 1447981)
I'm curious as to how many people here genuinely believe that either Hillary Clinton, or Donald Trump, represented the best choice for president of the names on their ballot last November.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 1448012)
Interesting answer.
Strong republicans always win elections, Trump was the only one who seemed like a strong republican on stage. He said the things the voters wanted to hear; voters don't care about the talking points. Cruze can debate your ass off, he's smart as shit, but he's also a creepy weirdo that doesn't win charisma points. I mean watch his recent debate with Bearnie -- he's not dumb at all, in fact he's incredibly smart. Early on when Trump went to the first debates -- I remember telling my wife: you know, trump is the only one actually talking to voters, saying the things they want to hear, and keeping on point. The rest are infighting and attacking Trump -- he handled it well. and that's another problem with the republican party, our views differ VASTLY. Unlike liberals who are dumb sheep. We had 20 freaking options to widdle down, and only one of them was actually working the crowd... Beyond all that, he promised to drain the swamp. Republican voters are tired of the RNC and politicians. Republicans in congress hardly represent the red voter; they might as well be democrats. Hell, they won't even repeal Obamacare -- the one thing they all would actually agree on it. -- when it comes down to it. plus, I've always believed that supporting trump is the ultimate troll on liberals. You cant imagine the huge smile I had in that morning after he was elected. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...7ec9a49fb7.png |
Originally Posted by mgeoffriau
(Post 1448065)
I voted 3rd party and was able to walk out of the voting booth still respecting myself.
I voted for Gary Johnson and I never thought I would ever vote 3rd party. Johnson was far from a prefect candidate, and I have/had serious policy differences than him in some areas, but he was still 100x better than the other two... |
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 1447981)
I'm curious as to how many people here genuinely believe that either Hillary Clinton, or Donald Trump, represented the best choice for president of the names on their ballot last November.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1448109)
Would I have love to have seen Rand win? Hellz yeah. But he, like the others on stage, had melt downs and cried like a girl. Strong republicans always win elections, Trump was the only one who seemed like a strong republican on stage. He said the things the voters wanted to hear; voters don't care about the talking points. Cruze can debate your ass off, he's smart as shit, but he's also a creepy weirdo that doesn't win charisma points. I mean watch his recent debate with Bearnie -- he's not dumb at all, in fact he's incredibly smart. Early on when Trump went to the first debates -- I remember telling my wife: you know, trump is the only one actually talking to voters, saying the things they want to hear, and keeping on point. The rest are infighting and attacking Trump -- he handled it well. and that's another problem with the republican party, our views differ VASTLY. Unlike liberals who are dumb sheep. We had 20 freaking options to widdle down, and only one of them was actually working the crowd... Beyond all that, he promised to drain the swamp. Republican voters are tired of the RNC and politicians. Republicans in congress hardly represent the red voter; they might as well be democrats. Hell, they won't even repeal Obamacare -- the one thing they all would actually agree on it. -- when it comes down to it. plus, I've always believed that supporting trump is the ultimate troll on liberals. You cant imagine the huge smile I had in that morning after he was elected. https://cimg7.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...7ec9a49fb7.png |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 1448109)
...You cant imagine the huge smile I had in that morning after he was elected. |
Originally Posted by good2go
(Post 1448059)
Isn't that only if they are being cared for in nursing homes or something though? I thought they were essentially saying it equates to elder abuse. I didn't think it applied to average Joe/Jane on the street. :dunno:
A lawsuit is slated to be filed to extend this to anyone who is at risk of being discriminated against due to their identity. That means in employment, school or someone who you choose not to conduct business with. Basically the bill was a foot in the door. |
Originally Posted by mitymazda
(Post 1448140)
A lawsuit is slated to be filed to extend this to anyone who is at risk of being discriminated against due to their identity. That means in employment, school or someone who you choose not to conduct business with. Basically the bill was a foot in the door.
alas: http://cobb.typepad.com/.a/6a00d8345...1cc258f970d-pi |
source: the UK.
where all terrorists have to do is say "cause I'm muslim" and continue to mow people over with trucks and toss acid. Meanhile, if you say something mean on the internet, a swat team will raid your home. |
Creates Hate Crime law.
"We do not need to prove hatred" |
liberals want a dictatorship, so long as they are in power. they come up with creative ways to keep conservatives at bay. they want hate crimes, but only to use it to outlaw their opponents. they want gun control not to save lives, but so they can control opponents by force--with guns. they want freedom of speech, but only if the speech has been thoroughly vetted by their ministry of peace. they want equality, but only if it means white people and/or rich people are unequal. they want the benefits of capitalism, but only if that means making slavery legal again. they passionately want free abortions, but not for birth control, but because they are disgusting heathens with no values/morals. they yell fuck the police, but not because police need oversight, but because police means they can't go full mob once they dearm, silence, and arrest all their opponents. they yell tax the rich, not because the rich don't pay their fair share, but because they again, they enjoy slavery and totalitarianism. they cry "global warming", not because they care about the environment, but it gives them control over industry. they are all sheep who ultimately want to see the destruction of the USA, because they have some warped idea that communism/socialism actually works. meanwhile, like I mentioned above -- you can't even get (2) conservative to agree on the same topics. these people run your children's school, then pull shit like this: A University of Illinois math professor believes that algebra and geometry perpetuate “white privilege” because Greek terms give Caucasians unearned credit for the subject. But that isn’t the professor’s only complaint. She also believes that evaluations for math proficiency perpetuates discrimination against minority students, if they do worse than their white counterparts. Rochelle Gutierrez argues in a newly published math education book for teachers that they must be aware of the identity politics surrounding the subject of mathematics. “On many levels, mathematics itself operates as Whiteness,” she argues with complete sincerity, according to Campus Reform. “Who gets credit for doing and developing mathematics, who is capable in mathematics, and who is seen as part of the mathematical community is generally viewed as White.” |
I'm a big t surprised that I haven't heard about this before tonight, but apparently "antifa" are planning as large a revolt as possible on the 4th.
At first I thought it might be just some info-wars nonsense, but sure enough: https://refusefascism.org/2017/08/06...egime-must-go/ |
Yeah I've been hearing rumblings for over a month now, thing is just how far will these groups take it? Well before last week I didn't think very far but now after the pipe bomb found at the civil war reenactment last weekend I'm not so sure.
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Originally Posted by Art
(Post 1448329)
Some of you continue to spew your conservative rhetoric or whatever you want to call it but there's no shortage of people who think you're just as wrong as you think you're right........
Your right and due to those folks and many other reasonable Americans that they would now consider "Right Wing" Obama was elected handily and direction of policy in this country changed course drastically. To be clear we don't hear Trump fans proudly stating men are better than women, whites are better than non-whites, and rich are better than poor, but isn't that what the actions suggest? Aren't actions louder than words? Simply hashing buzzwords and rhetoric like jobs and taxes is meaningless..... Can you give any examples of the systematic policies, laws or actions of a person or institution that promulgate the claim of ....."men are better than women, whites are better than non-whites, and rich are better than poor"...? I will stand with you all day to fight injustice, but it has to be something that is actionable not some watery concept of patriarchy or equality of outcomes for everyone or some other buzzword. To be fair, a lot of the quite large US is homogeneous and white, so the catchment area of the rust belt, heartland, south is quite large and talking about progressive diverse things or other cultures might fall on more deaf ears so you can get votes without mentioning race at all because it might not even register with certain populations. Have you personalty traveled to or experienced local culture of a large portion of the United States? And I mean interact with and maybe have a conversation with a local? Even if it's just to see where something is in town or chatting in line getting coffee? That shitty little local museum in town will blow you mind. I guaranty it's not the same as TV or some other vapid form of media. The statement that vast swaths of America are homogeneous white areas if woefully ignorant or purposely misleading... there is no middle ground there. And pro tip the smaller the locality the more interconnected you'll find the community and it tends to be pretty diverse. One step further...Have you ever traveled to another country with a a similar governmental or different belief system? More or less homogeneous in your view?....again if you've experienced the place. Was this spun as revenge for having a half African American president, is that reason enough for many people? Because honestly when someone looks angry and they're shouting about one thing or another that's what it looks like. Back to what I said earlier in this post, many people were not happy with what happened in the last 8 years. Many of those folks voted for Obama. This should be evident by the fact the grass roots movement the Tea Party and changes in politics. Huge amounts of protesters marched on government (little violence, no looting and not a single fire;) ) and there was a ground swell that ended up replacing many democratic representatives to the tune of over a thousand and 13 governorships in the country. Many republican reps who didn't represent their locals also got the boot. Few people are shouting, and funny enough when they are their calling others racist. Just the fact racism is the lense those people see the world through should tell you they are ironically....racist As far the amount of people who chose not to vote, well I guess it didn't really matter enough to make the effort now did it? I would love to continue the conversation. |
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