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DNMakinson 08-07-2019 11:53 AM

Thoughts on Feds sending $$$ to states to pass and implement "Red Flag" laws.

Braineack 08-07-2019 12:29 PM

Thought on Feds stop collecting taxes and stop dangling unearned $$$ as incentives to get states to do things.

DNMakinson 08-07-2019 12:55 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1544863)
Thought on Feds stop collecting taxes and stop dangling unearned $$$ as incentives to get states to do things.

Oh.... Without a doubt.

Joe Perez 08-07-2019 01:41 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1544834)
(Mr. Horsey saying mean things about Mr. Shapiro)

I have no idea who Mr. Horsey is, but he sure seems to dislike Mr. Shapiro.

Could you provide some context for me to understand what this has to do with anything? (Not everyone obsesses over the same things that you do.)

Braineack 08-07-2019 01:50 PM

He's every liberal who cheers for antifa, and destruction, and violence, and hate, then claims Trump's rhetoric is inciting violence, all from the comfort of their moral high horse.

Braineack 08-07-2019 02:09 PM

I'm confused, is it Trump's rhetoric that incites violence, or is it the rhetoric against Trump [and supporters]? Asking for a friend.


Braineack 08-07-2019 02:25 PM

Rhetoric of Peace:



Rhetoric of Hate:



samnavy 08-07-2019 02:25 PM

Depsite the blue supermajorities across the state, I'm kinda glad I don't have to deal with any of this shit in Hawaii... people just don't care. There's a horrible meth epidemic and the number of tourists who die here every year would SHOCK YOU, CLICK HERE OMG, but basically nobody gives a shit about anything that happens on the mainland. I'll assume Alaska is the same way.

Joe Perez 08-07-2019 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by Skamba (Post 1544736)
Funnily enough, Denmark's prime minister denied that they are a socialist country.

His exact words were:


"I would like to make one thing clear. Denmark is far from a socialist planned economy. Denmark is a market economy."


Central economic planning is not a defining characteristic of socialism. John Stuart Mill, one of the early thinkers on the topic, described what he called "Market Socialism," in which traditional market forces (supply / demand) drive production and pricing at the local level, with these decisions being made by the individual entities involved, rather than by the state.





Anyway, here's a Hitler meme:

https://scontent-ort2-1.xx.fbcdn.net...a9&oe=5DCF9EBA

samnavy 08-08-2019 12:10 AM


Originally Posted by Joe Perez (Post 1544898)
... in which traditional market forces (supply / demand) drive production and pricing at the local level, with these decisions being made by the individual entities involved, rather than by the state.

So when the state centralizes all industry and the value of their currency falls through the floor, people in rural areas revert to a trade/barter system and people in the cities stand in gov't bread lines.

Braineack 08-08-2019 08:16 AM

Yeah but think about how good that bread must be if people stand in line all day for it...

Braineack 08-08-2019 08:37 AM

Dat Rhetoric Doh.

https://m.theepochtimes.com/movie-sh...0PBIE1umhj82Sw


Movie Showing Elites Hunting Down Trump Supporters Slated to Hit Theaters in September


BY ZACHARY STIEBER
August 7, 2019 Updated: August 7, 2019



A movie showing liberals stalking supporters of President Donald Trump is slated to be released in September but has lost an advertisement on ESPN in the wake of two mass shootings on Aug. 3 and Aug. 4.

The movie, “The Hunt,” from Universal Pictures, shows people hunting down “deplorables,” a term failed presidential contender Hillary Clinton used to describe supporters of Trump during the 2016 campaign.



Joe Perez 08-08-2019 09:02 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1544946)
Yeah but think about how good that bread must be if people stand in line all day for it...

Back then, people got to know their neighbors. Standing in line all day for a loaf of bread really brought everyone together, and gave them a shared purpose. People talked to one another, shared in their lives, learned who needed to be reported to the party for wrongthink, and generally had a sense of connection and togetherness.

Nowadays, you can simply order any kind of bread you want ahead of time from your phone, cruise up to the store after work, and have it brought out to you. No waiting, don't even have to leave your car.

And I think that, from a standpoint of community involvement, we're all poorer as a result.

#BreadLinesMatter

Joe Perez 08-08-2019 09:26 AM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1544951)


Having watched the full trailer, this seems to be a film about rich people paying to hunt poor people for sport.

I see no obvious political motive, and attempting the politicize it seems a tad desperate / reach-y.



Braineack 08-08-2019 10:53 AM

depends.

the synopsis is:


Twelve strangers wake up in a clearing. They don't know where they are, or how they got there. They don't know they've been chosen... for a very specific purpose... The Hunt. In the shadow of a dark internet conspiracy theory, a group of globalist elites gathers for the very first time at a remote Manor House to hunt humans for sport. But the elites' master plan is about to be derailed because one of the hunted, Crystal (Betty Gilpin, GLOW), knows The Hunters' game better than they do. She turns the tables on the killers, picking them off, one by one, as she makes her way toward the mysterious woman

but it keeps being described as:


A violent thriller in which blue-state elites hunt red-state “deplorables” for sport has been forced to pull some of its ads in the wake of US mass shootings as studio execs fear the tragedies will eclipse the ultra-dark satire.
also:


We pay for everything, so this country belongs to us,” one of the “hunters” says in a trailer still available online; they reportedly pick their “prey” based on social-justice sins like using racist language on social media.

“The violent, R-rated film from producer Jason Blum's Blumhouse follows a dozen MAGA types who wake up in a clearing and realize they are being stalked for sport by elite liberals,” THR’s Kim Masters wrote. “It features guns blazing along with other ultra-violent killings as the elites pick off their prey.”

According to the Hollywood trade publication, characters in the film refer to the victims as “deplorables,” which is what Hillary Clinton famously dubbed Trump supporters during the 2016 election. The report noted that a character asks, "Did anyone see what our ratf--ker-in-chief just did?"

“The Hunt” stars Betty Gilpin and Hillary Swank, who play characters who represent “opposite sides of the political divide,” according to Masters, who added that it was originally titled, “Red State vs. Blue State.”

Braineack 08-08-2019 10:57 AM

meanwhile:

https://www.louderwithcrowder.com/tw...e-mitchs-home/


A Twitter spokesperson said the @Team_Mitch account was “temporarily locked out of their account for a Tweet that violated our violent threats policy, specifically threats involving physical safety.”

McConnell’s campaign manager, Kevin Golden, confirmed the account was locked this morning “for posting the video of real-world, violent threats made against Mitch McConnell.” The video featured a clip from a recent protest outside McConnell’s home in Louisville, where participants reportedly donned clothing and held signs that read “Massacre Mitch.”

“This is a problem with the speech police in America today,” Golden said. “Twitter will allow the words ‘Massacre Mitch’ to trend nationally on their platform. But locks our account for posting actual threats against us.”


BUt TrUYmp IsI a voOLeLECNt SeXIsIT MONsTeNR THat We MUSt ERradCIate!

Joe Perez 08-08-2019 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1544975)
(A violent thriller in which blue-state elites hunt red-state “deplorables” for sport has been forced to pull some of its ads in the wake of US mass shootings as studio execs fear the tragedies will eclipse the ultra-dark satire.)

(etc)

Those are all opinions. They're how one person interpreted the film, through the lens of their own biases.

People ascribe political meaning to apolitical media all the time. Take "Bird Box" for instance. Some people saw it is a condemnation of how society tends to turn a blind eye to mental health issues. Others perceived the monster in the movie to be racism, which all of the white people put on blindfolds to ignore. Still others saw the blindfold as a metaphor for social media, which we use to shield ourselves from having to see the true evils of our society.

One of my personal favorites is that it's about the phenomenon of helicopter parenting. Natalie Reilly wrote:

Are our blindfolds the reason nobody cares about Syria? Or why Americans are no longer paying attention to the longest war in their history? Or that, despite the hammering of alarming statistics for over two decades, we still can’t quite grasp the idea that climate change is so dire we may only have two decades left? When Bullock’s character becomes pregnant, an obstetrician tells her: “Just because you can’t see something doesn’t mean it’s not there.”

In this sense, Bird Box reflects a deeply insular, conservative and ultimately paranoid parenting philosophy. There is an invisible evil lurking in the world. One that knows our worst fears, only to exploit them like some all-knowing algorithm – such as global tech corporations harvesting all our personal information, or the government, or both. It knows us. Knows what we like and will turn that against us. In some ways, it already has – the Cambridge Analytica scandal is proof of that.



Are any of these interpretations things that the creators of Bird Box intended to convey? Who knows. Art is like that; people see in it what their beliefs tell them should be there.

sixshooter 08-08-2019 12:28 PM

Hunting humans isn't very nice.

Maybe it would be easier for the left to see the problem if all of the people being hunted were black?

Or Hasidic Jews?

Or Mexicans?

Or women?

Or gays?

Braineack 08-08-2019 12:35 PM

What if told you Orange Man was the most hated/discriminated minority group?

Joe Perez 08-08-2019 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1544995)
What if told you Orange Man was the most hated/discriminated minority group?

Using the old adage that an individual is the smallest minority, I'd posit that Orange Man is pretty close to being the most hated minority group in the US. There might be some people who have a poorer ratio of like/hate than Cheeto, but I doubt that any single American is specifically hated by a larger number of individuals.

I think we should make a movie about people from rural counties in the southern US kidnapping gay black Muslim women from liberal-arts colleges in the New England area as well as the northwest, and then hunting them in game preserves with AR-15 rifles equipped with bumpstocks.


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