EPA wants you to blow up your car
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yeah, IIRC they use those in the rx8 so it can meet emmission standards and not only do you get even worse MPGs when you use oil that actually lubercates and cools properly, you void your warrenty.
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A couple of things immediately jump out at me, beyond the obvious fact that a lot of us have been running E85 in otherwise stock Miatas for quite some time now.
The first, of course, is that the sole source of data which the author of that article cites is a report published by the American Petroleum Institute. Given that the API represents producers of petroleum, and one effect of increasing the percentage of ethanol in gasoline would be to decrease the amount of petroleum which they can sell, I would question the objectivity of any paper published by the API concerning the matter of whether or not the government should mandate an increase in the percentage of ethanol in gasoline.
The second is essentially the same as the first, but read aloud in the voice of Mr. Spock from the later Star Trek films, when it started to get really deep and gravelly.
The first, of course, is that the sole source of data which the author of that article cites is a report published by the American Petroleum Institute. Given that the API represents producers of petroleum, and one effect of increasing the percentage of ethanol in gasoline would be to decrease the amount of petroleum which they can sell, I would question the objectivity of any paper published by the API concerning the matter of whether or not the government should mandate an increase in the percentage of ethanol in gasoline.
The second is essentially the same as the first, but read aloud in the voice of Mr. Spock from the later Star Trek films, when it started to get really deep and gravelly.
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No, I meant E85. As in the stuff that comes out of the yellow pump, is rated for somewhere between 95-110 octane (depending on which data you believe), and has been gaining popularity among the owners of MS2 and MS3 ECUs for the past several years.
There is a fairly large body of evidence to support the conclusion that E85 fuel has a detrimental effect on certain materials commonly found in the fuel systems of carbeureted engines. Thus, it is possible that more frequent maintenance will be required of older lawnmowers and chainsaws.
Considerable research, however, exists to demonstrate that ethanol-gasoline fuel blends are not typically harmful to automobiles produced during or after the early to mid 1980s, as the natural rubber components typical of carbeureted engines are not present in high-pressure EFI systems.
There is a fairly large body of evidence to support the conclusion that E85 fuel has a detrimental effect on certain materials commonly found in the fuel systems of carbeureted engines. Thus, it is possible that more frequent maintenance will be required of older lawnmowers and chainsaws.
Considerable research, however, exists to demonstrate that ethanol-gasoline fuel blends are not typically harmful to automobiles produced during or after the early to mid 1980s, as the natural rubber components typical of carbeureted engines are not present in high-pressure EFI systems.
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I've heard of these elusive yellow pumps. Ive even seen the only one available in a ~50 mile radius, however, I don't have the badge to be able to utilize it.
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