Governmental control in disguise
 

What a bunch of shiesters.
To start this off, I'll explain what's going on.
I'm in the process of building a garage and I leveled out my site where I am going to build. I saw my neighbor a few weeks ago, and I asked him, "When you had your pole building built, what did you have to take care of with the township to build it?" He tells me, "I had to go to the office and pay like $35 for a permit, that was it." The next day, I go to my township office to buy a permit. They tell me that things changed since 2008 and I need a storm water management application, and that I need to give them $850. That money goes into an escrow account, and $50 of it is for the permit fee. It costs about $300 to send someone out after I build my garage to make sure that the rain coming off my roof isn't flowing in a direction that will wash out a township road. Then the remainder ($500) should be refunded to me, it's mainly for their insurance in case my water runoff needs further evaluation to pass, blah blah blah.
I'm like, ok, I gotta give them $850 so they can screw around and then I wait to get about $500 back....whatever. Then they tell me that I need to get a zoning permit from the county to build. I'm thinking, "this is that $35 permit my neighbor talked about". WRONG. Try $200. So it's gonna cost me about $550 when it's all said and done just to have the government say, "it's your property and we know you're gonna follow codes and not gonna disturb any other property or wells or roads, but give us your money anyway."
This kind of shit makes people not even want to build accessory buildings. It's uncle sam's way of saying, "I know you own your property, but actually, you don't own your property, cause it belongs to is. If you fart on said property and the wind blows said fart across the street, you need a methane gas displacement permit."
Shits Frustratiing.

think about all the pensions you are supporting :)

or they just dont want shit to flood...

This is true. They made me figure out how much rain water would be displaced if 1/2 an inch of rain landed on my roof. I told them that I live on a hill and when it rains, the water flows right across my driveway and goes down next to where the garage will be built, and it's been doing it for hundreds of years. Their response was, "hundreds of years ago, we didn't have ordinances in place to monitor things like this. We do now."

Local governments typically charge the H&H studies to FEMA for big spenders or large developments, they should not charge this much for permitting a small structure. The Federal requirement for this type of analysis is only pertinent if the garage lies in the "floodway" of a mapped, NFIP participating community.

Townships are crazy, I'd never live in one...hell, I'll probably never leave Texas.

it's not so much that the ordinance didn't exist 100 years ago... it's that millions of square miles of concrete and roof didn't exist 100 years ago.

why is there flooding all the time in the midwest? because 100% of it has been worked by humans.

Human's are the plague of the earth.
Like Hustler kind of said, I could see if I lived in a town or a development, but I live in the middle of nowhere. Put it this way, if a deer walked through my yard, I could shoot it from my bathroom window while sitting on my toilet, and nobody would notice. If I built my garage, nobody would really care either. I went about it the legal way so I don't face future fines if my neighbors decide to not like me and rat me out.

I prefer "because people live where it floods and they know FEMA and flood insurance will continue givign them money until the end of time so it makes no sense to move."

Can u write these fees off on your taxes? R u going to be doin any kind of work for money in this garage? Im sure they will tax you on this new structure anyway.

You can afford to pay a little more. Look at Hussein, he makes millions per year and doesn't need it all...but you still have to pay his $400k/year salary to be preisdent, that he doesn't need.

And this kind of shit is the reason why the next house I buy will be out in the country.

Wait, I thought he said he was out in the middle of nowhere...

"Middle of Nowhere" in PA is apparently a whole different animal than "Middle of Nowhere" in a reasonable place like TX...

lol @ socialist northerners.

What's the "in disguise" part of it? It's gov't sucking more money out of the taxpayers, to justify their own existance.

That's how I'm lookin at it.

I have a question. Are you building new on a site thats never had a building, or are you rebuilding a garage that you tore down?

I had a like 8x10 storage shed there and I moved it, dumped 7 tri-axle loads of shale there, and am building a 24x32' pole building. I guess to answer your question, "yes, I am building on a site that's never had a building."

GLENDALE (CBS) — The city of Glendale is imposing a ban on artificial grass. Notices are going out to homeowners whose front yards are covered in turf.

Geneva Dotson says she was forced to pay crews $3,000 to rip up her brand new front yard after receiving a notice from city hall.

“There’s enough drama in life without having the city breathing down my back,” says Dotson. “I’m very angry about it, to tell you the truth.”

So, what’s the gripe?

City officials say the concern is related to the plastic and chemicals used in the artificial turf.

When asked why the fake grass would continue to be allowed in backyards, officials had no answer.

A turf company contacted by KCAL9 said some artificial lawns contain lead, but there is no harm posed to children or adults.

City officials say they plan to press criminal charges against those who do not comply with the ban.

New Bedford fisherman forced to give up 800-pound tunaText

Carlos Rafael conducts business on the bridge of the F/V Athena. New Bedford fishing boat owner Carlos Rafael is on of the most influential person on the waterfront. Mr. Rafael who owns over 40 fishing boats is an icon on the waterfront.

November 21, 2011 - This fish story may lack the epic qualities of Ernest Hemingway's 1952 classic“The Old Man and the Sea,” but for New Bedford's Carlos Rafael, the outcome was about the same. In both cases, despite capturing and bringing home a huge fish, powerful circum*stances conspired to deprive the luckless fishermen of a potentially huge reward.

Boat owner Rafael, a big player in the local fishing industry, was elated when the crew of his 76-foot steel dragger Apollo told him they had unwittingly captured a giant bluefin tuna in their trawl gear while fishing offshore.

“They didn't catch that fish on the bottom,” he said. “They probably got it in the mid*water when they were setting out and it just got corralled in the net. That only happens once in a blue moon.”

Rafael, who in the last four years purchased 15 tuna permits for his groundfish boats to cover just such an eventuality, imme*diately called a bluefin tuna hot line maintained by fishery regu*lators to report the catch.

When the weather offshore deteriorated, the Apollo decided to seek shelter in Provincetown Harbor on Nov. 12. Rafael imme*diately set off in a truck to meet the boat.

“I wanted to sell the fish while it was fresh instead of letting it age on the boat,” he said. “It was a beautiful fish.”

It was also a lucrative one. Highly prized in Japan, a 754*pound specimen fetched a record price at a Tokyo auction in January this year, selling for nearly $396,000. These fish can grow to enormous size. The world record for a bluefin, which has stood since 1979, was set when a 1,496-pound specimen was caught off Nova Scotia.

However, when Rafael rolled down the dock in Provincetown there was an unexpected and unwelcome development. The authorities were waiting. Agents from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration's Office of Law Enforcement informed him they were confis*cating his fish — all 881 pounds of it.

Even though the catch had been declared and the boat had a tuna permit, the rules do not allow fishermen to catch bluefin tuna in a net.

“They said it had to be caught with rod and reel,” a frustrated Rafael said.“We didn't try to hide anything. We did everything by the book. Nobody ever told me we couldn't catch it with a net.”

In any case, after being towed for more than two hours in the net, the fish was already dead when the Apollo hauled back its gear, he said.

“What are we supposed to do?” he asked. “They said they were going to give me a warn*ing,” Rafael said. “I think I'm going to surrender all my tuna permits now. What good are they if I can't catch them?”

No charges have yet been filed in connection with the catch, but a written warning is anticipated, according to Chris*tine Patrick, a public affairs specialist with NOAA who said the fish has been forfeited and will be sold on consignment overseas. Proceeds from the sale of the fish will be held in an account pending final reso*lution of the case, NOAA said. No information on the value of the fish was available Friday.

“The matter is still under investigation,”said Monica Allen, deputy director with NOAA Fisheries public affairs. “If it's determined that there has been a violation, the money will go into the asset forfeiture fund.”

“I think I'm going to sur*render all my tuna permits now. What good are they if I can't catch them?”


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My Dad was sent a letter by the City stating that he needed to pay his yearly $40 alarm with 911 fund. He called and said to the lady, "Let me get this straight, I install an alarm to prevent crime and you are charging me?" operator lady with city, "Yes, we have to cover the cost of the 911 operators and gas of the police driving out there to alarms that are triggered with no crime involved." Dad, "Isn't that why I pay you taxes in the first place to cover your cost for 911 operators, gas, etc...

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