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Old 08-05-2011, 09:03 PM   #21
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I think we are all missing the part where I called my buddies. Either way I've been in a situation where I have had to engage multiple people... with a rifle, sure it's a little different, but evading bullets is a lot harder than people. I would at least ruin a few of them. But **** it I know I'd probably go down.
As you said, it's better to go down fighting. You might end up getting back up.
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^This, some shotguns loaded with rock salt and nightsticks could solve this problem.
Word. I keep a few 12 gauge rock salts near my back door for "in case". Enough to hurt like **** and scare the **** out of someone, but not enough to kill.
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Word. I keep a few 12 gauge rock salts near my back door for "in case". Enough to hurt like **** and scare the **** out of someone, but not enough to kill.
What about one of those 6 D-Cell maglites? Sorta like a heavy club.

"It's is not a club officer…it's my flashlight"

Would that fly?
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What about one of those 6 D-Cell maglites? Sorta like a heavy club.

"It's is not a club officer…it's my flashlight"

Would that fly?
That would fly, I'd make sure the flashlight worked but I don't see a problem. You'd be better off with a CCW and a pistol though.
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**** rock salt. I keep a 12gauge with 00buck tucked inside my ******* 24/7.

I also stash a pistol with jhp .40 in myy vagine. If you have a reason to shoot, you should be shooting to...
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That would fly, I'd make sure the flashlight worked but I don't see a problem. You'd be better off with a CCW and a pistol though.
This is way out of my areas of expertise. But don't you have to fight fire with fire to an extent to avoid being charged yourself?

I mean…if a guy starts pulling you out of the car…can you shoot him? I think you could defend bashing him in the head with a flashlight with no questions. Or perhaps the idea is that if someone starts to yank you out of your car you pull out the gun and then they let go and run away towards easier prey.

I read about this pharmacist that is getting sent to jail for life after killing a robber or robbers who had shot at him in his store. A big issue was that he kept shooting after one went down? Excessive force so therefore HE is a murderer. Only he was being robbed by them and was in fear for his life.
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What about one of those 6 D-Cell maglites? Sorta like a heavy club.

"It's is not a club officer…it's my flashlight"

Would that fly?
I don't carry one, but I do have one, and yes, heavy bastard would make for an effective skull cracker for cracker killers.
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**** rock salt. I keep a 12gauge with 00buck tucked inside my ******* 24/7.

I also stash a pistol with jhp .40 in myy vagine. If you have a reason to shoot, you should be shooting to...
I meant it more as riot control, **** rubber bullets.
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**** rock salt. I keep a 12gauge with 00buck tucked inside my ******* 24/7.

I also stash a pistol with jhp .40 in myy vagine. If you have a reason to shoot, you should be shooting to...
I meant it more as riot control, **** rubber bullets. Teach them a lesson in violence they won't soon forget (Exodus).
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Great. Now there's racial flash mob violence. That's just what we need nowadays.
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Great. Now there's racial flash mob violence. That's just what we need nowadays.
Umm. This has been going on for some time.

Remember that the ultra-PC media votes democratic 93%.

Stories get filtered or not reported on or rephrased. A group of "teens" usually means a bit more than that.

There have been tons of flash mob situations recently. Mostly robberies but there has also been a lot of actual violence against other races.

Years ago there was a "wilding" event in Central Park in NYC. One of my cousins was the Doctor for that girl. And her sister (the doc not the victim) was Christopher Reeve's MD…who was afraid of her lol. Superman was afraid of a 100 pound girl!
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Umm. This has been going on for some time.

Remember that the ultra-PC media votes democratic 93%.

Stories get filtered or not reported on or rephrased. A group of "teens" usually means a bit more than that.

There have been tons of flash mob situations recently. Mostly robberies but there has also been a lot of actual violence against other races.

Years ago there was a "wilding" event in Central Park in NYC. One of my cousins was the Doctor for that girl. And her sister (the doc not the victim) was Christopher Reeve's MD…who was afraid of her lol. Superman was afraid of a 100 pound girl!

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I got stuck in one recently, a restaurant owner grabbed me and my girlfriend and locked the doors because a week before that, a middle aged lady got her jaw broken by one of these upstanding citizens. I nearly **** my pants. It was like The Birds, except instead of birds, they were teenagers larger than most college athletes; packing pure retard strength.
Can you expound on this? As in, describe the event in more detail?

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Word. I keep a few 12 gauge rock salts near my back door for "in case". Enough to hurt like **** and scare the **** out of someone, but not enough to kill.
So, if someone is lurking near your home, possibly with the intent to rob and/or kill you, you want to injure them enough so they run off... and can come back better prepared and more angry?

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This is way out of my areas of expertise. But don't you have to fight fire with fire to an extent to avoid being charged yourself?
A lot of this can be heavily dependent on where you live. If you are in a fist fight with one guy your same size and you decide to shoot him, even in states that respect a right to self defense, that might not fly. If you are being mobbed by a bunch of street thugs in Florida and you fire on your assailants, you might be okay from a legal perspective.

I'm not lawyer, though.

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I read about this pharmacist that is getting sent to jail for life after killing a robber or robbers who had shot at him in his store. A big issue was that he kept shooting after one went down? Excessive force so therefore HE is a murderer. Only he was being robbed by them and was in fear for his life.
Where was this at? Can you find the specific story? I ask because you may be remembering details wrong or the story may have been reported in what can be a misleading manner. That is, being charged and being prosecuted and being found guilty are all different things.

Also, what amount of time elapsed between when the guy went down and when the victim continued to shoot? Was the downed assailant still in the pharmacy or did the victim pursue? Etc.
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What about one of those 6 D-Cell maglites? Sorta like a heavy club.

"It's is not a club officer…it's my flashlight"

Would that fly?
That'd work until they rush you and use your maglite (or your short sword) on your head.
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Where was this at? Can you find the specific story? I ask because you may be remembering details wrong or the story may have been reported in what can be a misleading manner. That is, being charged and being prosecuted and being found guilty are all different things.

Also, what amount of time elapsed between when the guy went down and when the victim continued to shoot? Was the downed assailant still in the pharmacy or did the victim pursue? Etc.
Pharmacist Story:

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory?id=14048830

See what I mean about the apparent need to temper your reactions?
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That'd work until they rush you and use your maglite (or your short sword) on your head.
But such mobs are entities of opportunity. So they will select easier targets instead of you.
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This is way out of my areas of expertise. But don't you have to fight fire with fire to an extent to avoid being charged yourself?
In texas at least, you have the right to defend your car/house/etc with deadly force if you feel that your life is in danger. If someone is coming at you and trying to pull you out of your car, you don't know if they have a gun, so you can use deadly force. Obviously if you shoot them, and they start to stumble and walk away... shooting them in the back is excessive force, you need to get away and call police.
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So, if someone is lurking near your home, possibly with the intent to rob and/or kill you, you want to injure them enough so they run off... and can come back better prepared and more angry?
No, I have other guns for that. There are situations that I can think of where I would want to just injure someone, and scare the **** out of them. The 12 gauge with the salt shot load is for that.

Situation example. I have a large garden, and I have a lot of Mexicans who live up the street from me who pass my house walking daily to the soccer field at the park next to my house. If I were to come home and find them in my garden (which I have in the past), I may feel the need to blast at them from long range. Wouldn't hurt them, but would surely scare them away and make them think twice about doing it again. That or they would do a drive by on my house There is quite a lot of crime at the apartment complex that they live in.
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