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Lol, it's hot out, wtf do we do?!
I saw this on googlefastflips
http://www.salon.com/technology/how_...oil/index.html I just don't understand some people. |
So you're in favor of pouring money down a hole, when they (the hole dwellers) haven't come up with a single damn constructive thing to do about AGW?
Shut the bastards down, and save me some taxes! |
Shut down the EPA and NEA for a good start
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Here's an example of how he EPA has jumped the shark.
My front steps (concrete) were crumbling after 50 years. So, I looked at replacement and repair. Wife decided she wanted a porch. Naturally, I set about designing a porch based on pics from the web. Got all set to act as general contractor, and went to the town hall for the building permits. All well and good. Now I'm no construction guy, and I was a little overwhelmed by the whole thing. How much rebar in the footer, do I use doublers on the end rafters, etc. Too much I didn't know. So, I hired a company to do it. But, I read through the paperwork, and it said I had to file an EPA impact report for building on to an existing structure, on my own property. What a crock of shit. Question 1 was "have any trees been removed for construction?" It went on from there. Since the builder was going to have to file the same paperwork, I proceeded to cut down every damn tree, bush, shrub and flower in my entire front yard. When, 2 weeks later he had me fill out the forms, I truthfully answered that there were no trees to be affected by the construction. |
Flier...
looks like you are one of them. 1.8 Billion is only 00.2% of the federal deficit each year. It's not enough. they need to cut more wasteful spending. Let PRIVATE INDUSTRY handle innovation and efficiency. Govt should run the country, not rule it. A good example of where throwing money at a problem doesn't work is k-12 education. It's laughable. However, our higher education is great. Why is that? Private Industry. |
I made it all the way to the line "Republicans have even introduced legislation that would overturn the scientific finding that greenhouse gas emissions pose a threat to human health." That would be the greenhouse gas carbon dioxide. I seem to remember fourth grade science class covering the bit about humans breathing out carbon dioxide and plants "breathing" it in. Dangerous stuff, that. :facepalm:
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Government Is Science, they can tell you whatever they want, and you have to obey. you also must pay for it.
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Government jobs are supposed to be soooo easy. You just sit there and make sure things don't change. Instead, we've got a bunch of overeager bureaucrats trying to justify the existence of their jobs by creating new agencies/laws/proceudures/restrictions/etc. Don't get me wrong, it's a completely human thing to do, but they need to be fired because they are supposed to be "public servants", not "self servants". What they are doing is being self-servants while using the facade of "publicly advantageous policy" to justify their means.
I wish - I wish - I wish - that every person in this country could sit through my college "intro to economics" class, with my same instructor, with the same material, and with the same teaching method. It wasn't a lecture, it was a "get up and move around, and we're going to buy and sell stuff" class. We had buyers and sellers, and instead of telling us how an action changes the market, he would simply give us the scenario and let us "trade", and then he would inject a stimulus of some sort (government policy, natural disaster, etc.) and let us run the scenario again - and then we would have an open discussion of what happened and why. I soon decided that I was going to minor in Economics. So when I say that "the EPA actions are a negligible environmental improvement, but economically disasterous", I might be off by a little on the environmental impact (in fact, I believe that "global warming" is short term, and that any impact that we've noticed can be 100% reversed in 2 weeks time by completely stopping energy use. The "higher temperature" that some people say we've had is lost forever to space in the form of infrared light radiation quite easily in that time. If you consider how much energy the earth gets from the sun every day, and if you consider the fact that the earth must return all of that energy to space at the same rate as it recieves energy, then you quickly realize how any amount of 'man-made' heat is never going to raise global temperature.) But I have a pretty good idea about the economic impact of the EPA. To help with understanding the vast quantity of energy we recieve from the sun: Consider this: Using current technology, if we were to build a 100 mile x 100 mile (10,000 square miles) solar power plant in arizona, it would provide enough electricity that we could turn off every other power plant in the United States of America (including wind turbines, hydroelectric, nuclear, coal, oil, etc.) and power the country 24 hours per day (with battery power stored during the day and used at night, of course) If you consider that current solar technology is, at best, about 13% efficient, then we can reduce that 10,000 square miles to 1,300 square miles. That is to say that 1,300 square miles of the earth's surface sees enough light energy from the sun to replace every source of electricity in the United States of America. That is an area of approximately 36 miles wide by 36 miles deep. I'm willing to say that there are probably many individuals in the United States, who do not consider themselves wealthy, that own that much land. So if our planet has 197,000,000 square miles of surface area, then the amount of energy the planet sees from the sun is roughly equivalent to 151,538 times the amount of electricity that the United States of America generates from its power plants. If the planet as a whole was using 100 times the amount of energy that the United Stated generates just from its power plants (which is actually a bit ridiculous in itself), we would still be generating 1/1,515th (or about 6 hundredths of one percent) of the sun's energy. Now, consider my theory: "The thought that we, mere humans, are causing permanent climate change in the form of global warming is a little bit ridiculous" |
Theories aside. It's not the goverment's job.
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Originally Posted by olderguy
(Post 688631)
Shut down the EPA and NEA for a good start
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 688639)
Flier...
looks like you are one of them. I was laughing at that article, please don't misunderstand me. I'm definitely conservative with my political views, the few that I have :). Not to mention I live in the heartland of extreme conservatives. What I gathered from that dude's fucked up article was: "Don't let the market control gas prices, it will never fix itself!" "We need stronger emission control!" "Let the govt. control the price of gas, so that way these greedy people won't take it to an obscene price!" "Oh the govt. just raised the price to $15/gal. to stop people from driving so much to lower emissions?...................... but but but I need to drive and I can't afford that! I changed my mind -_-" "The world is changing, it's never changed like this before..... that we know of..... which is about 0.000000000001% of its lifetime, BUT ITS STILL CHANGING OMG" |
Originally Posted by flier129
(Post 688807)
"The world is changing, it's never changed like this before..... that we know of..... which is about 0.000000000001% of its lifetime, BUT ITS STILL CHANGING OMG"
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What is the optimum temperature for life on Earth to flourish?
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 688941)
What is the optimum temperature for life on Earth to flourish?
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"It's more energy efficient to drive a 1967 Camaro from the day it was made until 30 years from now instead of having one Prius manufactured."
I heard that from Top Gear before and confirmed with my uncle who is in the manufacturing business (He designs the machines that make the machines that make the cars, micro-engineering something or other. Makes me feel like a dumb failure all the time) Another funny story: I had just got done putting the 01 block in my 97 and was letting a friend drive it while I was double checking the tune. We pass a Prius, loud pops because it was running pig rich. I told him to give it WOT, he does and I hear it throw all kinds of shit out the exhaust(flames? O_o) then it suddenly it stops. We pull over, I grab the extinguisher check under the hood and a fuel line had popped off. We move the car forward because it was in an inconvenient place and the prius actually pulls over to see if we need help. I laughed, pointed at the big puddle of gas and said "Look my car just puked out your emissions for a year" Ah good times. |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 688639)
Flier...
looks like you are one of them. 1.8 Billion is only 00.2% of the federal deficit each year. It's not enough. they need to cut more wasteful spending. Let PRIVATE INDUSTRY handle innovation and efficiency. Govt should run the country, not rule it. A good example of where throwing money at a problem doesn't work is k-12 education. It's laughable. However, our higher education is great. Why is that? Private Industry. And fuck public universities while we're at it. Long live Devry, ITT, and University of Phoenix! If you're going to pay out the ass for your education, why not line someone's pockets while you're at it! /sarcasm |
Originally Posted by wayne_curr
(Post 689137)
I thought this whole statement was laughable. Our government is TOTALLY throwing money at schools right now. Fuck all those public school teachers with their high salaries and job security.
And fuck public universities while we're at it. Long live Devry, ITT, and University of Phoenix! If you're going to pay out the ass for your education, why not line someone's pockets while you're at it! /sarcasm |
Originally Posted by sixshooter
(Post 688941)
What is the optimum temperature for life on Earth to flourish?
Most government run agencies are failures in my opinion. Some manage to do OK, but most are laughable. Our environmental agencies especially. On the topic of "global warming" or "climate change", I do think we need to reduce the amount of "greenhouse gases" we produce. Global climate change is a natural cycle that was happening long before we came along, but we are without a doubt adding to the natural amount of gases produced on the planet. Who is to say a change in the cycle wouldn't be catastrophic, but then again, who is to say it would be. Either way, we need to try and leave the planet as we found it and stop fucking it up needlessly. Not saying halt human advancement because of it, but we tend to do things that aren't always necessary in regards to environmental impact, just to save some coin (strip mining, deforestation, ect...) |
Originally Posted by soflarick
(Post 689207)
High salaries, I think not. Many states pay their public school teachers rather poorly. The money, as usual, goes in the wrong directions when bureaucrats and politicians are involved. However, they do get summers off, which some teachers fail to remember. The states that likely "overpay" their public teachers are overburdened with unions forcing an unsustainable economy on the taxpayers.
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Teachers in NY make far too much. Oh, whaa, we work long hours. Yeah, and you get every damn holiday off, the whole summer and spring break as well. There's a fucking GYM teacher in the next town over who makes over 100K a year. For elementary school. "Go play with those balls, kids, while I suck down the taxpayers money."
Rochester, NY has the highest per capita patent rate in the world. Xerox, Kodak, Baush&Lomb, etc. But the average teacher's salary is higher than the average engineer's salary. How is that fair or reasonable? |
This is the shit that's really pissing me off and why is my tax money funding it?
http://www.fda.gov/Food/ResourcesFor.../ucm079516.htm Yes, whatever will we do if people eat artisan cheese?!?!?! According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, more than 800 people in the United States have gotten sick from drinking raw milk or eating cheese made from raw milk since 1998. http://www.nhtsa.gov/PR/DOT-16-11 * Propose rules, by the end of 2011, to require brake override systems, to standardize operation of keyless ignition systems, and to require the installation of event data recorders in all passenger vehicles; * Begin broad research on the reliability and security of electronic control systems; * Research the placement and design of accelerator and brake pedals, as well as driver usage of pedals, to determine whether design and placement can be improved to reduce pedal misapplication. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...021005765.html In this remote snow-swept college town rejuvenated in part by Internet commerce, President Obama outlined a plan Thursday to create similar economic stories through the expansion of super-fast wireless Internet connections. |
Originally Posted by wayne_curr
(Post 689137)
I thought this whole statement was laughable. Our government is TOTALLY throwing money at schools right now. Fuck all those public school teachers with their high salaries and job security.
And fuck public universities while we're at it. Long live Devry, ITT, and University of Phoenix! If you're going to pay out the ass for your education, why not line someone's pockets while you're at it! /sarcasm are you saying the govt isnt throwing money at the problem? are you fucking crazy?! http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/wp-co...w-Coulson1.jpg spending versus scores... no improvement 190% more spending per pupil since 1970 alone. Keep laughing. I know it's funny to be ranked where we are for K-12. The salary that the teachers make is between the teacher and the school. The education that the child gets is what's important. The only way Gov't knows how to produce results is dumping money in the system. They've never heard of term like performance based, efficiency, effectiveness, etc etc. Teacher's unions only make it worse. I honestly can't understand how you can sit there and act a fucking fool like that. It's ridiculous; you are ridiculous. The pyramid of ability recognizes the social contributions of the people that make great productive efforts possible. These investors and inventors provide the companies, technologies, and physical plants that raise the productivity of a person of even very modest knowledge or skill to towering heights. Think of how much an auto-factory worker makes in today's society; then compare that to what he would make if he tried to set up shop on his own. That's an example of how we benefit from participating in the division of labor, and from the ability of others to organize efficient means of production. |
Part of the solution is to make education a requirement for public assistance. No diploma? No welfare, unemployment, etc.
And how about we make them clean up the damn streets? Sheesh, we pay these people to sit on their asses, is it any wonder the place looks like hell and they won't do anything about it? |
Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 689258)
are you saying the govt isnt throwing money at the problem?
are you fucking crazy?! http://www.cato-at-liberty.org/wp-co...w-Coulson1.jpg spending versus scores... no improvement 190% more spending per pupil since 1970 alone. Keep laughing. I know it's funny to be ranked where we are for K-12. The salary that the teachers make is between the teacher and the school. The education that the child gets is what's important. The only way Gov't knows how to produce results is dumping money in the system. They've never heard of term like performance based, efficiency, effectiveness, etc etc. Teacher's unions only make it worse. I honestly can't understand how you can sit there and act a fucking fool like that. It's ridiculous; you are ridiculous. The pyramid of ability recognizes the social contributions of the people that make great productive efforts possible. These investors and inventors provide the companies, technologies, and physical plants that raise the productivity of a person of even very modest knowledge or skill to towering heights. Think of how much an auto-factory worker makes in today's society; then compare that to what he would make if he tried to set up shop on his own. That's an example of how we benefit from participating in the division of labor, and from the ability of others to organize efficient means of production. Also, your graph is misleading. Of course it costs 190% more to teach students these days than it did in 1970. Books, desks, chairs, TVs, etc, all cost waaaay more today than they did in 1970. Also, inflation aside, look at all the computers and other such expensive electronics that are now necessary in schools. That shit is expensive. There is no doubt in my mind that you're partially correct though in that throwing money at the situation isn't going to help. A friend of mine pays out the ass to send his daughter to a private school and she still can hardly read. So no, money is definitely not the answer. Our k-12 education in this country is based all around teaching students how to pass standardized tests and not based on developing critical thinking and problem solving skills. Students aren't really required to engage themselves in their learning anymore. No child left behind really fucked everything up in that regard. Anyway, its not funny to me at all where our country is ranked in education. I didn't get a chance to watch your videos but I will tonight after work. |
Someone better not tell Wayne that graph is inflation adjusted!
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Wanker, those graphs are adjusted...
this is the base of the issue: The showdown in Wisconsin over fringe benefits for public employees boils down to one number: 74.2. That's how many cents the public pays Milwaukee public-school teachers and other employees for retirement and health benefits for every dollar they receive in salary. The corresponding rate for employees of private firms is 24.3 cents. Unions use force to fuck over the employer. It's not about the kids. Gov't employees should not be able to organize. Local state taxes are what fund your schooling, and their hands are tied because mobs of angry greedy assholes use collective bargaining to get THEIR way. Politicians buy the votes of government workers with generous pay packages and benefits, paid for by someone else, and then expect a kickback from the unions in the form of hefty campaign donations, rent-a-mobs and questionable union political activity when they run for re-election. Schools are run by people who do not ask "Do I want my employees to work harder?" they are run by people who are co-conspirators with them in milking the taxpayers. Consider this: On his first day in office, the Republican governor of Indiana, Mitch Daniels, signed an executive order denying public sector employees the right to bargain collectively -- something that had been granted, naturally, by a Democratic governor. As a result, Indiana government employees instantly got to take home an extra thousand dollars that no longer went to union dues -- and good employees started getting raises, while bad employees got cashiered. I do agree, standardized testing is stupid. This again is what happens when the Gov't gets involved. My solution would be expel the kids who deserve to be left behind and focus on the kids who want an education. This would be better for everyone. |
Unions - Bringing you higher costs and lower productivity every year.
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hell even FDR said that government employees shall never have bargaining rights.
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Originally Posted by Braineack
(Post 694298)
My solution would be expel the kids who deserve to be left behind and focus on the kids who want an education. This would be better for everyone.
We have too much need for unskilled labor in this country to try and educate people who are unmotivated to achieve that education. |
yep.
Good read on it: A MINORITY VIEW BY WALTER WILLIAMS RELEASE: WEDNESDAY, FEBRUARY 2, 2011 Black Education In my "Black Education Disaster" column (12/22/10), I presented National Assessment of Educational Progress test data that demonstrated that an average black high school graduate had a level of reading, writing and math proficiency of a white seventh- or eighth-grader. The public education establishment bears part of the responsibility for this disaster, but a greater portion is borne by black students and their parents, many of whom who are alien and hostile to the education process. Let's look at the education environment in many schools and ask how conducive it is to the education process. According to the National Center for Education Statistics, nationally during 2007-2008, more than 145,000 teachers were physically attacked. Six percent of big-city schools report verbal abuse of teachers and 18 percent report non-verbal disrespect for teachers. An earlier NCES study found that 18 percent of the nation's schools accounted for 75 percent of the reported incidents of violence, and 6.6 percent accounted for 50 percent. So far as serious violence, murder and rapes, 1.9 percent of schools reported 50 percent of the incidents. The preponderance of school violence occurs in big-city schools attended by black students. What's the solution? Violence, weapons-carrying, gang activity and student or teacher intimidation should not be tolerated. Students engaging in such activity should be summarily expelled. Some might worry about the plight of expelled students. I think we should have greater concern for those students whose education is made impossible by thugs and the impossible learning environment they create. Another part of the black education disaster has to do with the home environment. More than 70 percent of black children are born to unwedded mothers, who are often themselves born to unwedded mothers. Today's level of female-headed households is new in black history. Until the 1950s, almost 80 percent of black children lived in two-parent households, as opposed to today's 35 percent. Often, these unwedded mothers have poor parenting skills and are indifferent, and sometimes hostile, to their children's education. The resulting poorly behaving students should not be permitted to sabotage the education of students whose parents are supportive of the education process. At the minimum, a mechanism such as tuition tax credit or educational voucher ought to be available to allow parents and children who care to opt out of failing schools. Some people take the position that we should repair not abandon failing schools. That's a vision that differs little from one that says that no black child's education should be improved unless we can improve the education of all black children. What needs to be done is not rocket science. Our black ancestors, just two, three, four generations out of slavery, would not have tolerated school behavior that's all but routine today. The fact that the behavior of many black students has become acceptable and made excuses for is no less than a gross betrayal of sacrifices our ancestors made to create today's opportunities. Some of today's black political leadership is around my age, 75, such as Reps. Maxine Waters, Charles Rangel, John Conyers, former Virginia governor Douglas Wilder, Jesse Jackson and many others. Forget that they are liberal Democrats but ask them whether their parents, kin or neighbors would have tolerated children cursing to, or in the presence of, teachers and other adults. Ask them what their parents would have done had they assaulted an adult or teacher. Ask whether their parents would have accepted the grossly disrespectful behavior seen among many black youngsters on the streets and other public places using foul language and racial epithets. Then ask why should today's blacks tolerate something our ancestors would not. The sorry and tragic state of black education is not going to be turned around until there's a change in what's acceptable and unacceptable behavior by young people. The bulk of that change has to come from within the black community. Walter E. Williams is a professor of economics at George Mason University. To find out more about Walter E. Williams and read features by other Creators Syndicate writers and cartoonists, visit the Creators Syndicate Web page at www.creators.com. |
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