Muslim Soldier w/101st Airborne refuses to deploy b.c he is Muslim
 

http://www.theleafchronicle.com/arti...NEWS01/8240313

What a tool, he even has a website http://www.freenasserabdo.org/

Now, I have served with Muslims and they never made a big deal out of it; I think this fruit cake just wants to take the easy way out. Discuss...

Why the fuck did he join the Army then? He probably thought he was going to get a check and easy money for college for sitting in Garrison for four years. They should probably just kick his ass out before he starts shooting people like Maj Hasan.

He's an American until it's inconvenient, then he becomes a Muslim.

Hang the mother fucker; publicly.

This is one problem I have with the US. We are so concerned about hurting peoples feelings, that we refuse to profile individuals. Go through airports around the world and see if you see any profiling. F*** yeah you do. Cause muslims blow up fucking planes. Kidding. Seriously though; I don't think we should let people in the military if their religious convictions are so strong that they are willing to defy or harm the government with which they are working.

How are all of the Navy guys going to feel about Levnubin buttsexing around the ship like a lot lizzard.

while I agree with all of you, I'll keep my comments at bay as I haz my first warnings for "racism" upon bashing commiecunt or w/e the turkish ******'s forum name is.

*I'm sure Emperor Obama will pardon him with a pat on the back and full honors
:facepalm:

Conscientious objection is a legitimate claim against conscription. But volunteering for military service, at a time when the army in question is already engaged in combat operations which involve direct conflict with persons who are self-described as members of the religion which you cite as your own justification for refusal to participate in combat operations is desertion (and also just plain stupid.)

I can't even understand why this is being discussed. Court martial, Leavenworth, dishonorable discharge. He'll write a book, nobody will read it, and when he gets out, Oprah will give him a car which will subsequently be vandalized by redneck hicks. End of story.

"Anonymous said...
Again he is a coward.... Post this you coward of a website. He knew what was required and is most likely on 41A right now sucking down a cold beer with his BBQ pork sandwich.

August 24, 2010 3:50 PM "

FTW! Miata Turbo Spirit^

What I don't understand is why he joined as a grunt? Damn, if he had ANY thought of not wanting to go to war and/or killing bodies he should have been a support MOS. He just cannot hack being a grunt, and is using being Muslim as a excuse. There are plenty of Muslims serving and he needs to stop acting like he is the only one.

+1

shoot him for treason, what happened to the good old days

You guys crack me up. First 1/2 the forum supports the construction of a mosque near the WTC. Now you all say, "hang the m-er f-er". Make up your minds. As for me and my thoughts...if you're in the armed forces of the united states of America, and you fail to comply with orders, well...you're fucking hosed then. Jail time / severe punishment should be issued.

how are those conflicting viewpoints? A community center that happens to have 2 floors (of over a dozen) devoted to worship, 2 blocks from and not visible by those at ground zero, where there actually IS a mosque at ground zero that been operational since before the WTC was even built

VS.

A douche that entered the service knowing we were fighting muslims and is now playing the religion card like he's the only fucker being asked to do the damn job.

^yep we need to make up our minds because those are exactly the same...

Why the fuck did he join then if he didnt want to deploy? Not much of a loss anyways. His fucking arms look like they belong on a 11 year old girl.

I hope this doesn't cause a huge uproar me saying this and all, but I'll say it.

With the way things are now, and the direction our country is going down, I have a feeling all this muslim boo hoo poor us BS is going to be the new "you hate me cause I'm black" kind of cry for help.

Worthless. Just kick him out, dishonorable discharge. The end.

Some of you people are idiots. Either that, or you're deliberately taking our of your ass.

Hanging / shooting / etc of this fellow ain't the answer. For starters, it would make him a martyr, and I'm pretty sure that we don't need any more of those right now. But it's also unjustifiable. Desertion is not treason, and while I'm not sure whether this would be construed as AWOL or Missing Movement, either way, only one US serviceman has been put to death for it since the American Civil War. (And that was during WWII)


Do you even have any clue how common desertion is? Depending on whose report you believe, 10,000 to 40,000 over the past 10 years in the US Armed Forces. You wanna put every single one of them against a wall, or only the brown ones?



I think that's pretty much the long and short of it. Sounds like his battalion CO has got his head on straight, I think most of the noise right now is coming from the same uninformed civilian douchebags who think Obama is a Muslim and they're building a fucking Mosque complete with minaret directly on the ruins of 1 WTC right next to the PATH station.

Just another pussy, to me.

While I wouldn't feel bad if the guy got his ass whooped, he hasn't yet put anyone's life in danger and since he spoke out before the opportunity arose, he'll get the usual.

More than likely, some combination of (or all):

-Paying back his salary to the gov't
-Leavenworth
-Dishonorable discharge

There are plenty of ways to get filtered out in the military. It's astounding how many kids will get sent home even after completing basic training, when they decide they can't handle/don't want to do their jobs. Usually those not cut out for it don't get too far.

The sad part is that it takes so much BS and paperwork to get these pieces of shit out that they ussually end up just getting sent home with an "other than honorable" and then appeal to the VA for an honorable 6 months later and the shit gets changed over. Or they just sit around leeching off the Military until they ETS (when their contract ends and they're out anyway.)

Case in point: a guy in my section who's been caught stealing from the shopette (gas station on post essentially)twice in the past two weeks, can't make it to formation/work by himself at all, is now on 24 hour watch, all this after he got admitted to a German psych ward and went AWOL for a week and a half after being released.... You'd think after all that he'd pretty much be on his way home right? Nope, gotta be all PC and give him a chance to "turn himself around," he fucks up again it'll be about 6 months of paperwork before he goes home.

Oh as for the Muslim guy, he joined the Army AS AN INFANTRY man, while this country is actively fighting people of his faith in both Iraq and Afghanistan and now wants to ditch deployment and use being Muslim as an excuse.... he might as well be charged with desertion and gotten rid of, I'd say hung but like Joe said, would just make him yet ANOTHER PR martyr.

This is not desertion. This is attention whoring. Desertion is leaving the military. He is throwing a pissy fit. Same as the guy who won't fight until Obama proves he is a U.S. citizen. This is like threatening to kill yourself in a video on youtube. If you wanna die, swallow a bullet, or pills, or take the knife down the street. Don't post it online so everyone can see how horrible you think your life is. He doesn't want to desert, he is making a statement. He should have conscientiously objected to fighting a war against Muslims, that has been going on for how long now, and sat himself out, and not joined in the first place. He joined, and releasing him due to what isn't even what I would call "religious" beliefs, is a cop-out, and a weak one at that. He should take his licks, and I hope that if he goes Fort Hood, that someone with patriotism shoots him with a pig blood soaked bullet.

Wow, I feel better now.

Doctors profile... This is why women get breast exams and men typically don't, why black men get more regular heart checkups, etc, etc. Profiling is good.

This is all Bush's fault.

I'd rather him be a martyr at my bullet, than I one at his.

WTF??? He's a muslim, yep, must be a terrorist, that's the OBVIOUS conclusion. :jerkit:

I agree, it's a pretty obvious conclusion.

When I joined the Army, the kids that joined and couldn't take it just went AWOL and offed themselves. He should learn from the example.

But then he wouldn't get the social networking buddies and the book deal! Not to mention the reality show.

I can't help but wonder if he joined up with the intention of doing this from day one.

This.

I really didn't think we were at war with a religion until I looked up recently and noticed half the news stories were either about our involvement with Muslim countries, our lack of tolerance for Muslims, or something else bad we're doing to Muslims.

Don't get me wrong, I know most Muslims are probably great people that want nothing more than the rest of us...a good life and going home to family. But why do we have to make special accommodations based on faith that we don't make in other cases?

Or better yet, why is their religion even the case?

Have we not ever fought against Christian soldiers? How many WWII vets used that as a cop out? Have zoning restrictions or public pressure never been used to ask a business or committee to reconsider their location?

Race card...meet religion card.

Hopefully more Muslims protest American ideas, it will help their revolution/inquisition.

do your fucking job

Just kick him out, dishonorable discharge. He knew what he was getting into when he signed up.

If we try him for desertion it would only cause like-minded people to rally for his "cause".

Why do people think kicking him out to be the answer?

Deploy him. His status as a conscientious observer is crap, and that's what the current investagation is about. If found that is was all just something he made up to get out of going to war, they'll send him just like they send the pregnant girls after they pop out the babies and hand them off to daddy or to their parents.

Watch, they'll deny his claim of being a conscientious observer and will be in the 'stan in the next two months.

Granted, I've never served in the armed forces so I'm certainly not qualified to really comment here, but I don't think I'd want him to have my back in a tight spot.

Ding Ding ding! We have a winner. If you're not a team player, no one is going to want you there anyways. And you certainly wouldn't want to be put in a situation where you'd have to rely on him. I've yet to be deployed, but just from a perspective of being part of the unit, guys like that have only one path to take - discharge.

If he makes it over there, he WILL be a team player, people don't mess around once they're in a situation where their lives are in danger, friendly fire is a bitch. Sucks to say, but I know it happens more than people would like to think.

+1. I wouldn't want that guy around me, angry, and with a loaded carbine/access to hand grenades.

I'm going to have to disagree with you, KPLAFIN. There have been instances already of soldiers either losing it or just not liking someone and killing them downrange. Hell, I'm an MI weenie and I have access to all kinds of munition. I can only imagine what temptations a disgruntled grunt would have.

You're not disagreeing with me, that's exactly what I was saying, guess I didn't say it very clearly though after I re-read it. He's ither going to be a team player or he's going to be dead is basically what I was trying to get across.

Hmm.. the last time I remember hearing about a muslim serving with the 101st, the fuck lobbed a grenade into a tent of sleeping soldiers, killing at least one... that was in Kuwait right before desert storm part deux.
And then the other fuck who went on a shooting rampage in TX - Ft. Hood?

Simple answer - hang the bastard or let him be a bitch to the guys in Leavenworth.

Political correctness in the military, or whatever the hell you want to call it - gets our guys killed. Call it like it is.

easy solution: come out of closet.

Make sure the platoon has nothing but pork filled MREs, he'll either conform or go AWOL.

LOL, AD's are a bitch. Or you can just let him run around outside while mortars are going off. "I told him to get down" I forget the clusterfuck of papers that I signed when i came in, but i am pretty sure when I was being screened, I had to answer some question about how I wouldn't allow my religion to interfere. Fraudulent enlistment anyone? Or fail a drug test, that is the sure way out.