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Old 08-25-2010, 10:43 PM   #1
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Default Muslim Soldier w/101st Airborne refuses to deploy b.c he is Muslim

http://www.theleafchronicle.com/arti...NEWS01/8240313

What a tool, he even has a website http://www.freenasserabdo.org/

Now, I have served with Muslims and they never made a big deal out of it; I think this fruit cake just wants to take the easy way out. Discuss...
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Why the **** did he join the Army then? He probably thought he was going to get a check and easy money for college for sitting in Garrison for four years. They should probably just kick his *** out before he starts shooting people like Maj Hasan.
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He's an American until it's inconvenient, then he becomes a Muslim.

Hang the mother ******; publicly.
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This is one problem I have with the US. We are so concerned about hurting peoples feelings, that we refuse to profile individuals. Go through airports around the world and see if you see any profiling. F*** yeah you do. Cause muslims blow up ******* planes. Kidding. Seriously though; I don't think we should let people in the military if their religious convictions are so strong that they are willing to defy or harm the government with which they are working.

How are all of the Navy guys going to feel about Levnubin buttsexing around the ship like a lot lizzard.
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while I agree with all of you, I'll keep my comments at bay as I haz my first warnings for "racism" upon bashing commiecunt or w/e the turkish ******'s forum name is.

*I'm sure Emperor Obama will pardon him with a pat on the back and full honors
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Conscientious objection is a legitimate claim against conscription. But volunteering for military service, at a time when the army in question is already engaged in combat operations which involve direct conflict with persons who are self-described as members of the religion which you cite as your own justification for refusal to participate in combat operations is desertion (and also just plain stupid.)

I can't even understand why this is being discussed. Court martial, Leavenworth, dishonorable discharge. He'll write a book, nobody will read it, and when he gets out, Oprah will give him a car which will subsequently be vandalized by redneck hicks. End of story.
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"Anonymous said...
Again he is a coward.... Post this you coward of a website. He knew what was required and is most likely on 41A right now sucking down a cold beer with his BBQ pork sandwich.

August 24, 2010 3:50 PM "

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Old 08-26-2010, 01:05 AM   #8
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What I don't understand is why he joined as a grunt? Damn, if he had ANY thought of not wanting to go to war and/or killing bodies he should have been a support MOS. He just cannot hack being a grunt, and is using being Muslim as a excuse. There are plenty of Muslims serving and he needs to stop acting like he is the only one.
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he's an american until it's inconvenient, then he becomes a muslim.

Hang the mother ******; publicly.
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shoot him for treason, what happened to the good old days
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You guys crack me up. First 1/2 the forum supports the construction of a mosque near the WTC. Now you all say, "hang the m-er f-er". Make up your minds. As for me and my thoughts...if you're in the armed forces of the united states of America, and you fail to comply with orders, well...you're ******* hosed then. Jail time / severe punishment should be issued.
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how are those conflicting viewpoints? A community center that happens to have 2 floors (of over a dozen) devoted to worship, 2 blocks from and not visible by those at ground zero, where there actually IS a mosque at ground zero that been operational since before the WTC was even built

VS.

A douche that entered the service knowing we were fighting muslims and is now playing the religion card like he's the only ****** being asked to do the damn job.

^yep we need to make up our minds because those are exactly the same...
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Why the **** did he join then if he didnt want to deploy? Not much of a loss anyways. His ******* arms look like they belong on a 11 year old girl.

I hope this doesn't cause a huge uproar me saying this and all, but I'll say it.

With the way things are now, and the direction our country is going down, I have a feeling all this muslim boo hoo poor us BS is going to be the new "you hate me cause I'm black" kind of cry for help.
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Worthless. Just kick him out, dishonorable discharge. The end.
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Some of you people are idiots. Either that, or you're deliberately taking our of your ***.

Hanging / shooting / etc of this fellow ain't the answer. For starters, it would make him a martyr, and I'm pretty sure that we don't need any more of those right now. But it's also unjustifiable. Desertion is not treason, and while I'm not sure whether this would be construed as AWOL or Missing Movement, either way, only one US serviceman has been put to death for it since the American Civil War. (And that was during WWII)


Do you even have any clue how common desertion is? Depending on whose report you believe, 10,000 to 40,000 over the past 10 years in the US Armed Forces. You wanna put every single one of them against a wall, or only the brown ones?



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He just cannot hack being a grunt, and is using being Muslim as a excuse.
I think that's pretty much the long and short of it. Sounds like his battalion CO has got his head on straight, I think most of the noise right now is coming from the same uninformed civilian douchebags who think Obama is a Muslim and they're building a ******* Mosque complete with minaret directly on the ruins of 1 WTC right next to the PATH station.
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Just another *****, to me.
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While I wouldn't feel bad if the guy got his *** whooped, he hasn't yet put anyone's life in danger and since he spoke out before the opportunity arose, he'll get the usual.

More than likely, some combination of (or all):

-Paying back his salary to the gov't
-Leavenworth
-Dishonorable discharge

There are plenty of ways to get filtered out in the military. It's astounding how many kids will get sent home even after completing basic training, when they decide they can't handle/don't want to do their jobs. Usually those not cut out for it don't get too far.
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There are plenty of ways to get filtered out in the military. It's astounding how many kids will get sent home even after completing basic training, when they decide they can't handle/don't want to do their jobs. Usually those not cut out for it don't get too far.
The sad part is that it takes so much BS and paperwork to get these pieces of **** out that they ussually end up just getting sent home with an "other than honorable" and then appeal to the VA for an honorable 6 months later and the **** gets changed over. Or they just sit around leeching off the Military until they ETS (when their contract ends and they're out anyway.)

Case in point: a guy in my section who's been caught stealing from the shopette (gas station on post essentially)twice in the past two weeks, can't make it to formation/work by himself at all, is now on 24 hour watch, all this after he got admitted to a German psych ward and went AWOL for a week and a half after being released.... You'd think after all that he'd pretty much be on his way home right? Nope, gotta be all PC and give him a chance to "turn himself around," he ***** up again it'll be about 6 months of paperwork before he goes home.

Oh as for the Muslim guy, he joined the Army AS AN INFANTRY man, while this country is actively fighting people of his faith in both Iraq and Afghanistan and now wants to ditch deployment and use being Muslim as an excuse.... he might as well be charged with desertion and gotten rid of, I'd say hung but like Joe said, would just make him yet ANOTHER PR martyr.
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Do you even have any clue how common desertion is? blah blah blah we're racist.
This is not desertion. This is attention whoring. Desertion is leaving the military. He is throwing a pissy fit. Same as the guy who won't fight until Obama proves he is a U.S. citizen. This is like threatening to kill yourself in a video on youtube. If you wanna die, swallow a bullet, or pills, or take the knife down the street. Don't post it online so everyone can see how horrible you think your life is. He doesn't want to desert, he is making a statement. He should have conscientiously objected to fighting a war against Muslims, that has been going on for how long now, and sat himself out, and not joined in the first place. He joined, and releasing him due to what isn't even what I would call "religious" beliefs, is a cop-out, and a weak one at that. He should take his licks, and I hope that if he goes Fort Hood, that someone with patriotism shoots him with a pig blood soaked bullet.

Wow, I feel better now.

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This is one problem I have with the US. We are so concerned about hurting peoples feelings, that we refuse to profile individuals.

Doctors profile... This is why women get breast exams and men typically don't, why black men get more regular heart checkups, etc, etc. Profiling is good.
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