It's okay to be racist as long as you aren't white.
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Romney debates himself. The etch a sketch is going to be worn out.
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Blob, I'm not sure how you can function in real life.
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Originally Posted by pusha
(Post 937598)
Blob, I'm not sure how you can function in real life.
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your views are so fucking skewed
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Originally Posted by pusha
(Post 937606)
your views are so fucking skewed
I listen to Romney and he constantly contradicts his earlier positions. Some of it doesn’t even add up and a lot of what he says doesn’t even reflect the truth. I am saddened so much of America will fall for this crap. |
Originally Posted by Mitt Romney
“No, you go to the hospital, you get treated, you get care, and it’s paid for, either by charity, the government or by the hospital. We don’t have people that become ill, who die in their apartment because they don’t have insurance.”
Is he trolling? You don't have to pay when you go to the emergency room? This is news to me. Also I am positive that people do die because they don't have insurance. Which is why he signed Romneycare after all. 1/10 Mitt. Lurk moar. |
Originally Posted by thenuge26
(Post 938306)
Is he trolling? You don't have to pay when you go to the emergency room? This is news to me.
When the EMTs get there and find passed out hobo, do they check him for insurance card or self-insurance verification before attempting life-saving measures and/or transporting him to the hospital? Once at the hospital, do emergency room doctors check him for insurance card or self-insurance verification before performing necessary medical exams, tests and care? If the answer to all of the above is no and said hobo receives $50k worth of life-saving medicine... He certainly seems to have received care without paying. What happens if you don't carry health insurance and go to the emergency room while conscious? Does the emergency room admitting agent do some sort of financial analysis to determine your ability to pay any and all costs prior to admitting you? |
Originally Posted by thenuge26
(Post 938306)
Romney in Central Ohio | Health care called
Is he trolling? You don't have to pay when you go to the emergency room? This is news to me. Also I am positive that people do die because they don't have insurance. Which is why he signed Romneycare after all. 1/10 Mitt. Lurk moar. I have insurance. But also the way funding agreements were written for the hospital and the way Property tax pays for the hospital, my portion of the bill was written off as if I was prepaid by the amount of my property tax that goes to funding the hospital. They basically took X-rays of it and said yep you broke the tip of your finger here is a prescription for some pain meds. |
In Texas all of the emergency area there are signs that say (and i'm paraphrasing) if your not dying we don't have to treat you, if your dying you get a body scan, we will stabilize you, then your out. Gf needed stitches last week and they made her wait till they checked that she had proper coverage before even putting her in a room to then wait 3 hours for a Dr.
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Originally Posted by jeff_man
(Post 938348)
In Texas all of the emergency area there are signs that say (and i'm paraphrasing) if your not dying we don't have to treat you, if your dying you get a body scan, we will stabilize you, then your out. Gf needed stitches last week and they made her wait till they checked that she had proper coverage before even putting her in a room to then wait 3 hours for a Dr.
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Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack
(Post 938332)
If the answer to all of the above is no and said hobo receives $50k worth of life-saving medicine... He certainly seems to have received care without paying.
What happens if you don't carry health insurance and go to the emergency room while conscious? Does the emergency room admitting agent do some sort of financial analysis to determine your ability to pay any and all costs prior to admitting you? But more likely is that an uninsured visit to the emergency room causes someone to become homeless. |
Originally Posted by thenuge26
(Post 938361)
No, they treat you and send you the bill afterwards. Not pre-paid != free. There is quite a difference. For instance, now the hobo is $50k in debt AND he still doesn't have a home.
But more likely is that an uninsured visit to the emergency room causes someone to become homeless. When I was much younger, my significant other at the time had an ovarian cyst burst and she did not have health insurance. With no real income and no assets to go after, the hospital wrote off the entire bill. There may have been some negligible amount paid (i.e. a few hundred dollars on a tens-of-thousands of dollars bill). |
Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack
(Post 938366)
I would argue that it is more likely that the hospital writes off all of the hobo's debt or at least the vast majority of it. Besides, he's a hobo living a life of freedom and adventure, unburdened by things like debt. He'll hop the next boxcar and never give another thought to that hospital bill.
When I was much younger, my significant other at the time had an ovarian cyst burst and she did not have health insurance. With no real income and no assets to go after, the hospital wrote off the entire bill. There may have been some negligible amount paid (i.e. a few hundred dollars on a tens-of-thousands of dollars bill). Bob |
Originally Posted by bbundy
(Post 937655)
I think history is repeating itself.
So does this immigrant from Budapest: and he's buying airtime to tell his story. |
Originally Posted by bbundy
(Post 938385)
And everybody else who goes to the hospital pays more the next time they go to cover the free catastrophic healthcare of the uninsured
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Originally Posted by mgeoffriau
(Post 938562)
So then, we effectively have cost-shared catastrophic healthcare for everyone, right? Isn't that a good thing? What's your beef with it? Simply that the costs are not progressively-distributed?
Carlos Slim, world |
Originally Posted by bbundy
(Post 938385)
It is A system of exponentially increasing cost and growing number of un-insured that we have developed and conservatives seem to want to retain for some un-known reason. I think a lot of them have been brainwashed into not thinking.
You can reasonably argue for positive or negative aspects of the different approaches (more Federal government control vs more "market based" approaches). But, I don't think you can reasonably argue that conservatives necessarily want to retain the current system as-is. Granted, reasonable arguments are not always your forte. :) |
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Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack
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Granted, reasonable arguments are not always your forte. :)
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Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack
(Post 938366)
I would argue that it is more likely that the hospital writes off all of the hobo's debt or at least the vast majority of it. Besides, he's a hobo living a life of freedom and adventure, unburdened by things like debt. He'll hop the next boxcar and never give another thought to that hospital bill.
When I was much younger, my significant other at the time had an ovarian cyst burst and she did not have health insurance. With no real income and no assets to go after, the hospital wrote off the entire bill. There may have been some negligible amount paid (i.e. a few hundred dollars on a tens-of-thousands of dollars bill). |
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