Originally Posted by Gearhead_318
(Post 805859)
I think your being a bit paranoid. This law was probably written by a do-gooder and enacted b/c it sounded like a good idea.
Originally Posted by Joe Perez
(Post 805882)
And that summarizes quite well the most significant reason that I take umbrage with discussions such as this.
It is quite easy to mistake ignorance for conspiracy. I genuinely believe that the vast majority of regulations such as this are written for one of two reasons. Either the individual proposing the regulation genuinely believes it to be of benefit (whether or not this belief is well-informed and supported by "good science"), or the individual believes that the regulation will gain them political support. Neither of these count as conspiracy in my book. Altrusim and greed are both perfectly normal and common human desires. But neither are evidence of a Secret Cabal tasked with enslaving humanity. When was it suggested that a Secret Cabal was behind the forced market removal of incandescent bulbs? I have no doubt that the method by which new regulations are written and introduced is entirely mundane. That's entirely the point -- simple things like government bureaucracy, corporatism, and do-gooder nanny-statistism combine to gradually erode our individual liberty. The issue of the incandescent bulb isn't raised because we expect people to be shocked or angered by the isolated loss of these bulbs. On the contrary, the issue is raised because it's symptomatic of the larger issue. It's an example of the mundane and every-day way our individual liberties are being constantly reduced. |
Originally Posted by Gearhead_318
(Post 805859)
Also, does the fact that the goberment makes a regulatory law automatically make that law a bad idea?
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Just came in to giggle at the nonexistence of Bush angst vs. the constant Obama angst I see in other threads.
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This is actually a time you can say blame bush and be correct.
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Joe so why you speculate LED lights cost so much more here. I would like some if they came in warmer kelvins
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Originally Posted by Faeflora
(Post 806100)
Joe so why you speculate LED lights cost so much more here. I would like some if they came in warmer kelvins
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Light bulbs are not the countries number one problem. How about the goverment focus on real problems and come up with good solutions. Educate the public on light bulb choices and let them decide what they want. If they want 100w or 1000w bulbs then let em have it and the electric bill to go along with it. Don't meddle in the basics.
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you fascist.
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Originally Posted by ChrisGriffin
(Post 806299)
Sex is not the countries number one problem. How about the goverment focus on real problems and come up with good solutions. Educate the public on sex choices and let them decide what they want. If they want protected or unprotected sex then let em have it and the child to go along with it. Don't meddle in the basics of sex ed.
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Its a slippery slope I tell you... First they're taking away our miniature heater bulbs... Next they're gonna outlaw Guns! Guns people! Its all an elaborate plot by the liberals to loosen us up for the ultimate denial of our constituionamal rites!
How's GE's stock price these days? |
since the market crashed, it's steadily, albeit slowly, going up.
and sarcasm aside, as trivial as you think it is, your post is 100% correct. guns are a metaphor. just as light bulbs are. |
Wait, Brainy. You are seriously trying to tell us that it's a liberal plot to strip us of all of our constitutional rights?
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more or less.
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....wut?
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Why is it that the only way Constitutional rights and individual liberties are ever stripped away or encroached upon is by a secret, sinister plot?
blean99, do you honestly believe that the individual liberties of private citizens have not been reduced by unnecessary government interference? |
Yeah, I think that our individual liberties have been reduced, but the thing is Mg, I believe it's been reduced by all parties in our political system trying to each get their own slice of the pie. The moment you try to paint one side or another as being the culprit of it....Well, my brain explodes in shock. It's like the birthers to me.
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At what did someone claim it was only the Democrats? I blame all of the big-government nanny-staters paternalistic screwjobs. I don't care which side of the aisle they sit on.
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Originally Posted by mgeoffriau
(Post 806482)
at what did someone claim it was only the democrats? I blame all of the big-government nanny-staters paternalistic screwjobs. I don't care which side of the aisle they sit on.
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Originally Posted by mgeoffriau
(Post 806482)
At what did someone claim it was only the Democrats? I blame all of the big-government nanny-staters paternalistic screwjobs. I don't care which side of the aisle they sit on.
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I support his statement. Statist Republicans self-identifying as "conservatives" no more makes them conservative than it would for Braineack to self-identify as a dog-lover. We know he's all about da cats.
So it's not wrong to blame liberals. |
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