TSA Body Scanners
 

Well it has been all over the news for the last few days, I was wondering everyones thought on it. I personally went threw one of these at Miami International Airport a few months ago, at the time I didn't think much of it...until now. I wish the feds would just be straight forward and stop using the excuse they're looking for bombs, when in fact all they're looking for is money smuggling, as well as drugs....:facepalm:

Nah, they're just trying to see a glimpse of my glorious cawk.

I'm not going to deprive them of that privilege :)

Pics?

Doesn't phase me, I gave up any expectation of privacy when I enlisted anyways, if it was every single person every single time they flew and added a ridiculous amount of time to my going through security, I may have a problem with it... but it doesn't, so I don't. Just something else people decided to bitch about because they hate theirs lives.

Yea I could careless, the military watches me pee (and I get observe pee) about 2 times a year already.

I don't mind showing my cock off, but apparently numerous digital images were leaked. People shouldn't have to show off their cocks and pussies if they don't want to.

If they don't want to share pics, they can always opt out and go for the groping option. At first I was like, next time I fly I'm gonna fuck with the TSA people, but it's not their decision, it's somebody else's designed to make the public feel safe. Whatever works, I guess. Maybe I'll strap a footlong sausage to my leg next time just to see how the scanner people react.

what are those things for anyway? ceramic knives? exploding butt plugs?

i've got a better idea. people who fly from countries which like to blow shit up can take the fuckin bus. i'm serious, they can fly in to mexico city and take the bus to any state they like. if they want to blow up the bus, then be my guest. don't care.

Were screwed either way.

If they scan us, their invading our privacy and wasting our time.

If they don't and someone blows up a plane, then why didn't they do something about it?

Honestly, I don't see the problem. Been through 'em at San Diego twice, doesn't take much longer than the regular magnetometer (and much faster than the puffer/sniffer thing they had for a while) and if some TSA lackey wants to bask in the radiance of a low-rez image of my glorious cock, who cares?

These fuckers trying to get everyone to request a pat-down ILO the backscatter machine come the Thanksgiving rush piss me off.

sidebar: it's now officially the future:

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http://www.geardiary.com/wp-content/...tal-recall.jpg

There is a fine line between "the public's best interest" and authoritarianism.

I love this:
http://blog.tsa.gov/2010/11/tsa-myth...ed-images.html
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The description of the screening is pretty ugly where they discuss "checking the folds of the body." Watch one of the TSA screening demos, it's pretty nasty. They're going to feel between your butt-cheeks, taint, around your nuts, between your nuts and donger, and yes...they feel in the vajayjay.

http://www.chicagotribune.com/travel...,4426956.story
http://gizmodo.com/5690749/

also, the TSA is pulling video they don't like from youtube due to "copyright infringement." So you can't watch them check the anus and vagina of a toddler anymore.

http://gizmodo.com/5694534/tsa-force...during-patdown
This is ridiculous

In 1991 when I was traveling through Amsterdam airport on my way to Italy. I was stopped by several military guys while walking trough the terminal. I was escorted to a private room where I received a very thorough pat down. I got to keep my close on (no rubber glove :).

When they were done I was sent on my way. I chalked it up to them either doing their job, or they were perverts. Either way, I was ok with it, they had big guns.

IF YOU dONT LIKE IT DON'T FLY.
No one is forcing you to fly. Don't like it, goodbye.
/thread

Some of us would feel a lot better about the whole thing if the pat down person was a cute female. Shit, I would probably opt for a strip search were that the case!

Can you pay all my taxes for me too?

I agree with this. Everyone bitching hates it until another plane is hijacked.
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That's bullshit. This doesn't make anyone even the slightest bit safer. Terrorists are already stuffing bombs up their anuses - will you submit to cavity searches when our government decides that's what's necessary for our safety?

You are 3000 times more likely to die in your car than you are in a hijacked or bombed airplane. Stop giving up your rights for the appearance of more safety.

...or until nude pictures of you go to your employer or the internet in general. What if your GF is hot, and someone leaks pictures of her on the internet, and suddenly she's a part of pop culture. Even better, do you think the TSA needs to check toddler vagina to fly?

From what I've heard they don't record anymore. Just a live feed and a person in a remote location "checking" and whatnot.
Also the faces are not "blurred" or something like that by the system.
No idea on how true all this is, but I heard them talking about it on a local radio station.
I think either way its bullshit. Someone will always be pissed whether this stays or they take it away.

TSA =

Terrorists - 1
We the People - 0

Most of the leaked photos are shot with camera phones, then uploaded to facebook, lol.

Toddler vag is one thing.

But all these women dressing up like sluts for Halloween and posting pics on FB... and all of the sudden they are getting all sand in their vages because there is a chance that some TSA machine is taking shitty pictures of them naked? HAVE PEOPLE BEEN ON THE NETZ?? THERE IS SO MUCH PORN I DON"T NEED THAT SHIT. I can get 1080p porn all day long.

Like others have said. Damned if you do, damned if you don't. How about know your neighbors. These terrorists are living in your fucking neighborhoods. You want to know why we are slowly losing control of our lives? Because we are letting them take it.

BTW I just fapped to this:
http://s3.thisnext.com/media/largest...n/EF178B0F.jpg

Oh and don't let people tell you they overexpose the pictures to show the public. At least the ones I went through on the way out of Afghanistan they show up just like the picture above.

You're right, pictures of women dressed like whores and nude pics from the body scanner are similar scenarios, you know...because one is unlawfully obtained and distributed.

I along with I'm sure many others are all ears to better methods.
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Show me real nude pics of someone that went through TSA security. Besides the ones TSA is distributing, which don't even pass for shitty amateur 70s porn.

Cry me a river. Seriously.

These scanners and pardon methods are new. Why do they need to be replaced with something better? Let's do away with them and get serious about stopping people on terrorist watchlists and flying out of terrorist-harboring nations.

You do understand there are terrorists in America. Right now. Right?

lets just kill all the terrorists and their children and everything around them.
:)

This^^
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The same way Israel does it, interviews and intelligence. Unfortunately the White House doesn't like to infringe on rights of potential criminals, they rather focus on oppressing everyone.

You do understand that none of the current methods prevent them from getting on a plane with explosives stuffed in their rectum, right?

I'm down for killing them, shit I even killed a few.

First you need to find them though.

Are these machines worth it if we find one terrorist capable of taking down one plane?

Why not do full on cavity searches? If we know the TSA won't check your asshole, why not shove a box cutter up your ass? The TSA came out and said they will not check your butthole, just shoved a ceramic box-cutter up your ass and you can take over the plane.

How is that a counter question? It has nothing to do with terrorists being in America...

The fact is nothing is stopping them from doing road side bombs in America. Nothing is stopping them from walking into a building a blowing it up. Nothing is stopping them from doing drive by shootings at schools. Nothing is stopping them from shooting an RPG at a plane as it takes off.... OH WAIT, there ARE people behind the scenes doing that.

We live in a shitty world. Things have changed. If we get complacent there will be another attack. Is it worth the trouble? I guess not.

This isn't an issue of "being complacent" - it's an issue of violating citizen rights in order to use methods that don't actually stop terrorists.

I wasn't in favor of wiretapping American citizens, but it least it had a benefit. This, however, does nothing - the terrorists were already adapting before these methods became widespread.

I would love to see a terrorist try to take over a plane I'm on with a box cutter. All that trouble of sticking a box cutter up his ass just for me to pwn his face.

One thing some people don't fully understand is how much these terrorists know about us, our methods of trying to catch them, and our technology.

Real terrorists devote their whole life to this shit.

Meaning they probably know more about our own scanning devices than we do.
We will never stop them, short of nuking the whole middle East and hoping everyone else changes their mind too.

Alright how about consent forms you sign before buying tickets. Or background checks.

Everytime we make the terrorist adapt to something we slow them down. That is like saying, oh terrorists adapted to <insert method here>, so we should stop doing that because they will never ever do it again.

Our nation does not have the resources to interview each passenger, but we have the resources to buy million dollar body scanners and search toddler vagina.

Please do this:
http://freakonomics.blogs.nytimes.co...be-terrorists/ (a bunch of economists can look at bank info and pick the terrorist)
Rather than check my taint. Investigate potential criminals, rather than attempt to farm them out of the general public.

Spoken like a true terrorist

So after continually hearing about all this shit, no one can come up with a better solution that will make the public feel safe. Note that I said FEEL SAFE, not actually safe. I'm not qualified to make that call so who am I to say if we're safe or not. Let's face it, we could (should) nuke the fuck out of the Middle East and we'd still have terrorist fucks from elsewhere or even better, good ol' fashioned homebred unabombers and the like. We can't do nothing so we gotta do something. If my gov't wants to see my dick, so be it. Not like every single member of our armed forces doesn't get watched taking a piss a few times a year. We're doing just fine. The public can, too.

It's the best choice for now, and I'm sure in a couple years everyone will forget the controversy and the TSA finger fuck and scan will be the norm. You can't really go any further than this without penetration, and that's just not going to happen. Ever. Because people can justify fucking up a TSA agent for that, but not really for a cop and feel.

In these times, the only people who can have privacy in our country are the backwoods weirdos and the Amish. Because they do not use our wonderful technology. Now who the fuck wants to live like that?

Sadly this new system in place has nothing to do with detecting bombs, or terrorists for that matter, remember, the United States doesn't 'profile' that's why you see the 79 year old lady getting extra attention being searched and the rag head walking on through. It is about money, that's all it is. It's an invasion of privacy for a lot of people. Me personally, I was in the Marines and am used to my cock being out for piss tests etc, but for others, included children having to go through these it's stupid! And a 11,000 dollar fine if you walk out of the 'secured' area because you don't want to be searched! What is the country coming too, if they want to catch fucking terrorists, profile, it's that simple, and maybe, just maybe use a puffer than detects if you have come into contact with explosives, rather than a pat down when you have C4 pushed up your asshole...just a thought.

No, everyone is bitching because it's a gross intrusion on our privacy, sanity, and freedom and they know it's doing jack shit to catch terrorist...which is why you never hear about any terrorists begin caught in any security line...Do you honestly remember any? No. And remember how effective the do-not-fly list is too...

It's a fucking show. Had all these measures been in place before 9-11, it would have still happened. They hid box cutter blades in their carry-on bags...not their person.

They are not using profiling. They are not using common sense. They are not putting the puzzle together when 4 guys from Yemen board a plane together.

These new methods are a show for the public in direct response to the last two security breakdowns, specifically the underwear bomber. Since he smuggled something in his underwear, the gov't tells the TSA they should start giving hand jobs in line.

Treating everyone like they are criminals is negation of freedom. You cannot live free and be treated like this.

Every gov't in history uses the public safety > freedom pitch to increase the power of the gov't (The Patriot Act for one), and you idiots are willing to give it up for: increased waiting time at the airport and the feeling of safety. That's all it is.

When you see grandma get her tits felt up you think: "at least I know she's not a terrorist!"

When I see that I think: "Holy Mother Of God. The Gov't is unable and unwilling to determine the difference between the good guys and the bad guys, and utilizes its power to meddle as much in our affairs as in those of the ones who might do us harm."

The terrorist will just find new methods to use it against us, like dress up like a pilot since they are allow to bypass security now, or enter the plane as a crew member. Then the gov't will just take away another freedom from us, to "protect us."

What if the gov't decided that on every major highway we should have to pass through security checkpoints? What if they made you pass through a scanner everytime you entered your home? What if you had to have a national ID card and scan it everywhere you go or every time you buy something?

Remember that once gov't has it's monopoly on the legitimate use of violence we have no way to defend our own lives, liberty, and property except at the pleasure of the government...


Now to deindoctrinate you:


-Ben Franklin


-Patrick Henry


-Sam Adams

-State motto of New Hampshire

Whisky is for drinking and water is for fighting.

When I was in Jerusalem I saw the Israelis at work. They questioned us, cross questioned us, tripled verified information. I though it was a lot better than these scanners. But then their airport security takes pride in their job and is not just some joe schome paid to look around and grope you.

NSFW
If you want to cover your boobs or johnson.
http://www.flyingpasties.com

I ahve the same ID as the TSA, because I work for an agency within DHS and it never fails...each time I go through security they don't like the DHS issued ID I present.

If you want to read some TSA stories that will get you righteously pissed off, start scanning here:

http://market-ticker.org/akcs-www?bl...=1&cat=Liberty

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety.

Benjamin Franklin

Repost... see my post above.

I just got hard.



I kinda want to dress in women's Muslim garb next time I travel and explain they cant scan me or touch me cause it violates Shaira Law. They will oblige because the US gov't caters to Muslims epseically since 99.9% of the time they are the terrorists that they are trying to catch in the first place.

That's the same logic that banned switchblades in the hope of stopping gang violence.

Exactly. Reactionary methods don't work. Neither does bureaucracy. Combining the two is just a joke.

If you think otherwise you are VERY naive, and then you get to apply to the Ben Franklin quote.

We are the only country in the world with the freedoms we have, we became a superpower because of it in 200 short years...and now all of a sudden we wanna give it all away because we are too Politically Correct to use profiling.


I'm surprised the gov't hasn't just banned air travel all together to stop terrorists. When they do, terrorists will just start blowing up buses, and then we'll start the process all over. Don't catch them before the act, wait till the terrorize us, then force regular people that aren't in danger to subcome to ridiculous methods of "Public Safety".

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The images are not low rez. They don't leave anything to the imagination. The backsatter xrays used don't penetrate the body, yielding only a surface rendering. That is why fluoroscopy needs to be used in conjunction with backscatter xray units. You've got to make sure the terrorists are packing their rectums full of C4.

Funniest thing about all of these arguments IMO is that the same people making them (not all the same people, but a lot of them) argue that machine guns and assault rifles cause crime. Anyone care to wager a guess at how many crimes have been committed with legally owned fully automatic weapons since the 1930's?

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Let's pop a couple Viagra and go through the scanner with raging, megahuge boners!

http://flywithdignity.org/
http://www.wnd.com/airportscreening
http://action.firedoglake.com/page/s/tsa
http://www.aclu.org/action-center

Of course, the most effective way to protest is to stop flying altogether. And instead of complaining to the TSA–which has no incentive to gain/retain customers–contact the airlines and travel agencies you normally use and tell them why you aren't flying. When it starts hitting their pocketbooks, maybe they'll finally start opposing the TSA abuse of their customers.v

What are your alternatives? Anyone looking forward to taking the train from Florida to Washington state?

Hrrmmm.. well, no, that is not quite right. Off topic, I know, but I just got to comment on this common misperception. The rights of the American people are in no way greater then the rights of the people living in for example the EU-countries.

In everything else, I totally agree with you!