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Old 07-01-2010, 10:47 AM   #1
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ok so i have read through all the faqs and still dont kinow exactly what to do...
i have a 92 with an 01 motor running on a stock 01 ecu
(thanks to fmowry) and an ebay td05 16g on a custom built manifold, pushing through an 18x8x3 i/c with an ebay bov (soon to be ssq knock off). i am in the process of gettin a wideband (just saving up funds). what is happening is that the motor just breaks up and wont run above 3500 on boost and i know this is due to lack of fuel and timing what i want to know is... what are my best options to get this thing to pull strong to red line at no more than 11.5 psi peak?
with bandaids or... i have read a little about emanage but not sure exactly what is involved. i plan on running a hydra in the end so for now i just want the cheapest solution to get it running better and drivable in rpms higher than 3500.
any serious help is appreciated. thanks

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Your best bet would be to remove the turbo setup for now and wait until you can afford a hydra. Why destroy your motor with an improper setup? The install/removal is simple. That's what I did with mine.
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ok so i have read through all the faqs and still dont kinow exactly what to do...
i have a 92 with an 01 motor running on a stock 01 ecu
(thanks to fmowry) and an ebay td05 16g on a custom built manifold, pushing through an 18x8x3 i/c with an ebay bov (soon to be ssq knock off). i am in the process of gettin a wideband (just saving up funds). what is happening is that the motor just breaks up and wont run above 3500 on boost and i know this is due to lack of fuel and timing what i want to know is... what are my best options to get this thing to pull strong to red line at no more than 11.5 psi peak?
with bandaids or... i have read a little about emanage but not sure exactly what is involved. i plan on running a hydra in the end so for now i just want the cheapest solution to get it running better and drivable in rpms higher than 3500.
any serious help is appreciated. thanks

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Buy an AEM, switch back to '92 wiring, get a wideband, profit.
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Wait, so you've added a turbo setup without any method of adding more fuel during boost? Uh...

Cheapest would be ~$100-200 in injectors and $300-400 for a MS. All this after of course you've purchased and installed a wideband. And do that AFTER you've completely removed your turbo system.
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yeah, if you've got a turbo setup and nothing adding any extra fuel, the first thing you should buy is a bus pass.
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Wait, so you've added a turbo setup without any method of adding more fuel during boost? Uh...

Cheapest would be ~$100-200 in injectors and $300-400 for a MS. All this after of course you've purchased and installed a wideband. And do that AFTER you've completely removed your turbo system.
Agreed. I'm pretty sure he's running zero modifiers to a stock ecu... and is wondering why the thing is sputtering after 3500 (about the time it will be making boost)...
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ok dip ***** i come here wanting some POSITVE advise on how to make it able to be drivin in boost for NOW untill i can get enough money together to get the hydra. not once did i say i drive aroung like an idoit with my foot to the floor at 3500 rpm with it sputtering. but i am driving it as it is my only vehicle right now as it runs fine out of boost as it should. so if there is nothing usefull you have to say to help me make it better without going stand alone then dont reply, and if they made a ms that would run my vvt i would have it allready!

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ok dip ***** i come here wanting some POSITVE advise on how to make it able to be drivin in boost for NOW untill i can get enough money together to get the hydra. not once did i say i drive aroung like an idoit with my foot to the floor at 3500 rpm with it sputtering. but i am driving it as it is my only vehicle right now as it runs fine out of boost as it should. so if there is nothing usefull you have to say to help me make it better without going stand alone then dont reply, and if they made a ms that would run my vvt i would have it allready!

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Take off the turbo until you have enough money to buy a hydra or some other engine management. There is no cheap way to supply fuel and retard spark for your engine that will allow you to go into boost now.
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ok so i have read through all the faqs and still dont kinow exactly what to do...
i have a 92 with an 01 motor running on a stock 01 ecu
(thanks to fmowry) and an ebay td05 16g on a custom built manifold, pushing through an 18x8x3 i/c with an ebay bov (soon to be ssq knock off). i am in the process of gettin a wideband (just saving up funds). what is happening is that the motor just breaks up and wont run above 3500 on boost and i know this is due to lack of fuel and timing what i want to know is... what are my best options to get this thing to pull strong to red line at no more than 11.5 psi peak?
with bandaids or... i have read a little about emanage but not sure exactly what is involved. i plan on running a hydra in the end so for now i just want the cheapest solution to get it running better and drivable in rpms higher than 3500.
any serious help is appreciated. thanks

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thanks for all the wonderfull help i will go out side right now and do exacly what you say because you know way more about everything than any of the rest of us im so sorry to have wasted everyones precious time.

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thanks for all the wonderfull help i will go out side right now and do exacly what you say because you know way more about everything than any of the rest of us im so sorry to have wasted everyones precious time.

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I told you to take your turbo off. That was serious. You can't use it now, why have it on? The car will drive perfectly without the ECU. I can't think of any bandaids that are going to help you. You are buying a standalone eventually (which you said). Put the turbo on later.

**** my life, how is that not serious advice?
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ok dip ***** i come here wanting some POSITVE advise on how to make it able to be drivin in boost for NOW untill i can get enough money together to get the hydra. not once did i say i drive aroung like an idoit with my foot to the floor at 3500 rpm with it sputtering. but i am driving it as it is my only vehicle right now as it runs fine out of boost as it should. so if there is nothing usefull you have to say to help me make it better without going stand alone then dont reply, and if they made a ms that would run my vvt i would have it allready!

Kris.
Buy a Megasquirt and unplug the VVT, or spend that same money on bandaids and have it run shitty anyway, or just undo your big mistake which was turbocharging the car with no engine management.

Or you can keep calling everyone here a dipshit and see how far that gets you - this option will certainly be the most entertaining for all of us, but I don't know how much advice or information it will get you.
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ok dip ***** i come here wanting some POSITVE advise on how to make it able to be drivin in boost for NOW untill i can get enough money together to get the hydra. not once did i say i drive aroung like an idoit with my foot to the floor at 3500 rpm with it sputtering. but i am driving it as it is my only vehicle right now as it runs fine out of boost as it should. so if there is nothing usefull you have to say to help me make it better without going stand alone then dont reply, and if they made a ms that would run my vvt i would have it allready!

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You're the dumbest ************ I've seen post here in a long time. How does it feel to be the biggest dumbfuck on the forum?
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thanks for all the wonderfull help i will go out side right now and do exacly what you say because you know way more about everything than any of the rest of us im so sorry to have wasted everyones precious time.

Kris.
Yes, we all know more than you because we're not the tards who attempted to double output on a motor with 3x the airflow and expected it to run in any capacity. We've done it all before and we get retards just like you monthly.

So, do you enjoy living with your mother? What about celibacy, is that working for you? If you're smart you'll appologize to the people who attempted to help you and I might just ban you, rather than send spyware in the next cookie...or did that already happen? Better do a system restore before it's too late.
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ok dip ***** i come here wanting some POSITVE advise on how to make it able to be drivin in boost for NOW untill i can get enough money together to get the hydra. not once did i say i drive aroung like an idoit with my foot to the floor at 3500 rpm with it sputtering. but i am driving it as it is my only vehicle right now as it runs fine out of boost as it should. so if there is nothing usefull you have to say to help me make it better without going stand alone then dont reply, and if they made a ms that would run my vvt i would have it allready!

Kris.
what reason do you have for driving around with a turbo on your car thats only hurting it, you f*cking ricer, all these dudes are giving you excellent advice, pick and choose what you want, and dont bitch when you motor blows
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HEY! dipshit OP!

read this ( https://www.miataturbo.net/diy-turbo-discussion-14/1996-1-8-pinging-when-hot-full-boost-46778/ )and you will understand why you should shut your pie hole and listen to the smart mo fo's here that know what the hell they are talking about!


if you dont take our advice i hope your engine throws a rod strait towards your ball.....

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ok dip ***** i come here wanting some POSITVE advise on how to make it able to be drivin in boost for NOW untill i can get enough money together to get the hydra. not once did i say i drive aroung like an idoit with my foot to the floor at 3500 rpm with it sputtering. but i am driving it as it is my only vehicle right now as it runs fine out of boost as it should. so if there is nothing usefull you have to say to help me make it better without going stand alone then dont reply, and if they made a ms that would run my vvt i would have it allready!

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