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JasonC SBB 09-12-2011 08:19 PM

Another spool thread - boost rise time at 4000 RPM
 
Choose a gear so that car is between 65 and 70 mph at 4000 RPM.
Cruise at just above 4000 RPM, coast down to 4000, then floor it.

The data should look like this:

Setting 0 time to be whatever time it hits 100 kPa, here is sample data format (not actual)

5 psi - 0.2 sec
10 psi - 0.5 sec
12 psi - 0.6 sec
15 psi - 0.8 sec

hornetball 09-12-2011 08:22 PM

Jason, are you asking us to submit measurements?

blaen99 09-12-2011 08:42 PM

InB4Throttle Response thread!

chicksdigmiatas 09-12-2011 09:00 PM

Please cross post at m.net. I am in for some actual good data though.

JasonC SBB 09-13-2011 02:16 AM

Well maybe the data presented this way is more useful.
Boost appears to be a linear rise; it overshoots 15 psi slightly so it's pretty linear to 15 psi.

0-15 psi time:

4000 RPM - 0.58 sec ~68 mph
4400 RPM - 0.48 sec (same gear)
5000 RPM - 0.42 sec

Techsalvager 09-13-2011 08:55 PM

You should its a linear rise? seems to me it would start rising quicker and quicker, anyways I got some data I will post up

Techsalvager 09-13-2011 09:01 PM

Pull #1

Map rpm time
102 3788 3.278
110 3906 3.532
130 4150 3.96
160 4361 4.337
187 4577 4.614
205 4712 4.865

Pull #2

JasonC SBB 01-06-2012 03:21 AM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 770721)
Well maybe the data presented this way is more useful.
Boost appears to be a linear rise; it overshoots 15 psi slightly so it's pretty linear to 15 psi.

0-15 psi time:

4000 RPM - 0.58 sec ~68 mph
4400 RPM - 0.48 sec (same gear)
5000 RPM - 0.42 sec

I fixed my loose wastegate and it made a big difference in my 4000 RPM data:

4000 RPM - 0.46 sec

Faeflora 01-06-2012 09:42 AM

VVT, your boost control system, wastegate spring, and timing will affect the results

18psi 01-06-2012 09:54 AM

0-21psi in just over .5 seconds.
....not a miata though:giggle:

Boost Joose 01-06-2012 11:24 AM

Wont this thread be a little biased depending on turbo and displacement?

18psi 01-06-2012 11:28 AM

So run a gt2554 on a 3 Liter I6 and win this thread then:D

Boost Joose 01-06-2012 11:35 AM

Wow, that would really throw this thread for a loop. I was thinking displacement ranging from 1.6-2.1L not 1.6-7.0......and just to make sure this thread is basically a dick measuring contest, correct? lol Not really relevant except for initial spool for highway racing?

Faeflora 01-06-2012 11:39 AM


Originally Posted by JasonC SBB (Post 770721)
Well maybe the data presented this way is more useful.
Boost appears to be a linear rise; it overshoots 15 psi slightly so it's pretty linear to 15 psi.

0-15 psi time:

4000 RPM - 0.58 sec ~68 mph
4400 RPM - 0.48 sec (same gear)
5000 RPM - 0.42 sec

Boost definitely DOES NOT always rise linearly. It depends on the turbo, mani, flow of the motor it's attached to, wastegate, timing....

18psi 01-06-2012 11:42 AM


Originally Posted by Boost Joose (Post 815917)
Wow, that would really throw this thread for a loop. I was thinking displacement ranging from 1.6-2.1L not 1.6-7.0......and just to make sure this thread is basically a dick measuring contest, correct? lol Not really relevant except for initial spool for highway racing?


To a noob like you, yes.
To others, like Jason, no.

If you read through our previous spool thread and glance over the plotted charts with everyones contributed info, you'll find it very helpful since you will see what combo's produce what curves.

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viperormiata 01-06-2012 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Boost Joose (Post 815917)
Wow, that would really throw this thread for a loop. I was thinking displacement ranging from 1.6-2.1L not 1.6-7.0......and just to make sure this thread is basically a dick measuring contest, correct? lol Not really relevant except for initial spool for highway racing?

My dick is bigger than yours.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1325868179

gospeed81 01-06-2012 11:45 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 815922)
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I tried to help him with this issue earlier...but some shithead keeps unbanning him.

JasonC SBB 01-06-2012 01:04 PM


Originally Posted by Faeflora (Post 815920)
Boost definitely DOES NOT always rise linearly. It depends on the turbo, mani, flow of the motor it's attached to, wastegate, timing....

In the case of the data I took above, it's pretty damn linear.

18psi 01-06-2012 01:08 PM

Yes, but in many other cases, he's right imo

JasonC SBB 01-06-2012 02:04 PM

Agreed, I was talking about my particular data set.


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