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Even at 250whp, with proper suspension and some sticky 15x10/245's and brakes, that car is going to put a hurting on most street cars in the twisties.
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Might want to add a radiator and coolant reroute to the list of parts.
OP, have you been in or driven a turbo miata? The power feels very different in a miata because it's literally a thousand pounds lighter than an STI... The TSE kit has some pretty remarkable power delivery/response so it'll likely feel much faster than a build with similar power but slower spooling turbo. 300rwhp feels fun and fast in a wrx/sti. 300rwhp feels kinda terrifying in a street miata... |
Originally Posted by ridethecliche
(Post 1404358)
OP, have you been in or driven a turbo miata? ...300rwhp feels kinda terrifying in a street miata...
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Originally Posted by slowcarfast
(Post 1404359)
When I first drove my car after turbo, at around 190-200whp, one of my initial thoughts was that 300 whp must be absolutely freaking insane.
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1404353)
Even at 250whp, with proper suspension and some sticky 15x10/245's and brakes, that car is going to put a hurting on most street cars in the twisties.
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Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1404353)
Even at 250whp, with proper suspension and some sticky 15x10/245's and brakes, that car is too capable to max out on public roads.
driving something like that anywhere near its limits on public twisty roads is too fast. I honestly prefer my S2000 for backroads drives. With so much less power and grip I can take it to its limits at relatively sane speeds. |
For additional insight on how good miatas are in twisties... My miata kept up with ^that guys^ s2000 in the corners, and I have 195 snow tires on.
When I had 205 RE71R tires, I drove absolutely as fast as I could dare (sometimes uh many times the speedlimit) around tight corners extremely dangerously, and I NEVER could get the tire temps past 115 degrees. Those tires hit maximum friction at 180 degrees. Also, 18psi... we discovered that there is no where in the rpm range where a miata is faster than an S2000. We did multiple tests, starting at 2000rpm, and ending at 6000 rpm, to keep the s2k out of vtec, and the it was faster even without vtec. I didn't have a passenger, and the s2k had a passenger and a sub in the trunk... even 2000rpm to 7000 rpm and me flat foot shifting, the s2k pulled ahead a half car between 6k and 7k. |
so shifting both cars at 6k the stook still pulled away?
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lol! Yep, I also don't like to push it real hard on the higher speed sweepers. But those Xidas really make your car very very capable despite the tires, finding grip where my car wouldn't.
There was one race where we were dead even though right? I think it was with both of us shifting at 6000 RPM. But if I'd been without a passenger (200 lbs) and subwoofer (25 lbs) I'm quite sure it wouldn't have been equal any longer. The race where we shifted at 7k was the real eye opener. The s2k pulled considerably, and I wasn't flat foot shifting, and I still had another 1000 rpm at my disposal.... |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1404368)
stook
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Obviously.
And that was my whole thing before: it didn't feel faster until you went into MAD VTAK BRO!! territory Also you have the much better midrange and gearing ap2. But either way, no biggie. |
Indeed, I do have the AP2, which is something we talked about in that other thread. But Marcello's Miata isn't stock either, what with a flat top and MS3. And I had another 225 ish pounds of extra weight above an s2k with driver.
I do think his Miata would have fared better without the 3.6 diff, haha. So it wasn't totally scientific, but it was fun anyway :) |
Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1404368)
so shifting both cars at 6k the stook still pulled away?
Originally Posted by turbofan
(Post 1404369)
There was one race where we were dead even though right? I think it was with both of us shifting at 6000 RPM. But if I'd been without a passenger (200 lbs) and subwoofer (25 lbs) I'm quite sure it wouldn't have been equal any longer.
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Originally Posted by thumpetto007
(Post 1404406)
Basically now I want an s2k... that shifter is sex. That's what I want my miata to shift like...
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it is a whole lot better. there aren't many cars that shift as nice as those
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Originally Posted by bahurd
(Post 1404408)
I thought you had the MR shifter? Never drove an S2000 but I can't imagine anything better than the MR setup.
Ask any automotive reviewer/editor/columnist/author what the best manual shifter they ever felt is, and they ALL say S2k. Unless they've driven the Ferrari F430 gated shifter manual. The s2k shifter and linkages are so good, its hard to really comprehend without driving it. The oem shifts are short, very solid, positive, you can shift BLINDINGLY fast, never grinds, doesnt have the double clunk feel like the miata 6 speed does as the collars are going over the synchro, it holds 700wtq without modifications.... I mean, I've only driven it for 30 minutes, and i think about it every time I shift my miata. |
I love my miataroadster shifter on my Miata. But it's very different from the s2000 shifter. I would definitely say the s2000 shifter is still better.
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