Bestest boost controller?
 

I have a cheapo mbc and while it works i cant help wondering what i have laying on the table becouse of the finnicky control and geuss work required to get the desired boost. So here is my question what is the best boost controller for less than say 200 dollars(or more if it is worth it). electronic or manual doesnt matter but i would prefer it to be a standalone unit and not be tied into an eftermarket ecu.

i have no clue or expertise on this comeon guys help me out.

I really like the Greddy Profec B Spec II but isn't someone on here designing there own EBC? I'd love to support who ever it is by using one on my next project.

any specs on the profec or experiences?:rly: ouch just looked up the greddy site no way 600-400 dollars is way to much for a bc.

Yeah...with the profec I was able to see great spool gains on the cars that I have used them in. You can even make it so you have a big high boost midrange spike and then taper it back. Being able to quickly switch between whoop ass and really whoop ass at the push of a button is cool too. I absolutely hate tuning cars with MBC's. Seems like you spend too much time jumping in and out of the car instead of driving an tuning.

:td: I know what you mean but that is alotof cash i could just dissconect my WG alotogether and buy another stage of WI and some more fuel for that much and run 20 psi till my tranny blows.:crx: does anyone have experience with the perring boost controllers they seem to be in my price range if they work.

i bought my turbo xs mbc for like $50 used but I havent hooked it up yet...

Don't jump to a new manual yet.....wait and see if the creator pops in...I honestly forget who is making them.

Bripab007 and 2G Engineering have created one. There are a few test bunnies here one the board (me included) It's a nice, simple, easy unit and works just as demanded. A set it forget it device.


http://wiki.2g-eng.com

Specs....price...and most importantly...does it come with stickers?:)

http://wiki.2g-eng.com/show_image.php?id=25


basically 4 wires hook it up, power - gnd - 2 for the silenoid. Hook up the silenoid in place of the MBC, and tee the MAP sensor off your boost gauge. 20 minute install. Set your boost level, and then go out and test the duty cycle. Set that and forget it.

they are wokring on adding features for outputs, e-manage, WI spraying, etc.

Approximate price? We are all pretty cheap bastards around here as you are well aware! :)

And idea on release date?

Very low key....I dig it. How do I get one?

i like it how much, i would be willing to help test it. even if i dont run a pcv i could provide some good feedback.

Ya I am intrested in that boost controller too! :bowdown:

Actually, it won't work with a car that has improperly-routed PCV lines...


PSYCH!!!! :D


There's no price as of yet, but it'll be quite inexpensive for an EBC. In fact, I'll remind Hal and Taylor to go ahead and register on this forum so they can answer questions like these directly. I've been running different versions of the boost controller for several months now, and it's a really good piece.

Thanks for the interest!

i am will wait if it works and is in my price range then i will probably give you guys a call.

Do we have any idea on the wait? I will probably need 2 or 3 of them.

Well, I'd imagine knowing there's a least a small line of people forming, the wait could be shortened/production hastened. I'll find out soon!

That looks pretty cool, if for some reason I can't get the MS boost control working, I'll go with that.

Sounds good my friend, sounds good. Yippie deserving really..
















:yippee:

2-3 how much boost are you gonna run 100psi

One for my next car(I don't have shit right now) One for a buddies turbo Vr6 Jetta and one for my buddies SRt4 cause if we have to get off the freeway one more time to change the boost then he has to find a new tuner:sadwavey:

that is why i like living in the country i can hit 80 mph before i totally pas my front yard and no traffic or esp cops.

Luckyyyyyyyyyyyyy

Hi, my name is Hal and I'm one of the guys involved in the development of the AXON boost controller. I'm really happy that you guys are showing interest in it. We are currently testing the controller thanks to the generosity of a few forum members. We want to make a few revisions before we start selling them, and we're looking at a couple of month timetable to take care of that. But if we get enough people lined up (say 15-20), we could probably accelerate things a bit.

The expected price is going to be in the 200-250 range. We hope to have a very effective and dead simple unit at a reasonable price, while leaving a few extra i/o ports and a PC interface for future upgradability and advanced features.

We have been getting some good feedback from the people using it, they like the easy install, simple tuning, and no-nonsense approach to it. They have also been great at pointing out the things that need to change (thanks bripab007, braineack, and Jeff (don't know your forum handle)). We are going to move from the current plastic/epoxy casing that we have on the current units, to an aluminum extrusion. The current unit mounts well under the hood, but not as well in-cab. So we're going to address that.

So thanks for the interest... check in on our website every now and again (www.2g-eng.com). Feel free to post any questions or anything here, or contact me directly (hglenn at 2g-eng dot com).

i want one they fit my price range perfect.

You might want to check out the AEM trueboost. Under $300 for a boost controller, digital gauge, and selenoid.

Looks like $350 to me: http://www.aempower.com/ViewCategory.aspx?CategoryID=68

Well, that is indeed under $300.

Yeah, vendors on the evo forums are getting $255 shipped...

Wow thats tempting. Bripab007....start making some noise to your buddies.

Yeah, we were just talking about it earlier. Kinda hard to compete with big shops like AEM, but we'll see what happens :)

No need to compete on price..just have it made available and I am in. I like the stealthness of it. My next car is going to have 0 traditional round gauges. I don't need the flashing light show. Just a good product that works.

The appeal of the axon is its plain black wrapper. That will attract a lot of people.

Will the axon come with a selenoid?

the aem is to ricey for me i like the axon better if they both perform =

If it doesn't come with a solenoid http://airinc.thomasnet.com/viewitem...ies?&forward=1

ah but it does dome with one. I have the same solenoid to test it on as well though (from FM).

Yeah, I'm sure we could provide the Axon with or without the solenoid and harness. It should work fine with just about any three port solenoid. The Humphrey piece looks interesting. It's the same price as the GM part ($10 for solenoid and $13 for the harness), but I don't know how the specs compare.

But it looks to be a much nicer piece than the GM unit. I wonder how loud it is? You can easily hear the GM piece. Thanks WOT for posting that link!

No sweat. I am not sure if any of you have installed Profec B's before but they come with a rubber isolater for the solenoid. It seems to help with the noise quite a bit and could be easily replicated.

Also not to take away from the Axom, but I found another home brew type of boost controller.
http://www.tullostech.com/index.php?...ask=view&id=45

There is a deal on www.homemadeturbo.com with a coupon code for $175 plus shipping for the first 5 then $200 after that. Pretty nice looking unit that looks like it would be at home in an ashtray. This price is without solenoid.

That piece may look nicer than the GM piece, but that doesn't really mean anything. I'ver never once heard my GM solenoid operating (well, except once when the engine wasn't running while I was doing testing); mine's mounted to one of the old cruise-control mounting tabs with a little piece of rubber to isolate it.

If you're able to hear a little solenoid over your turbo Miata's engine/exhaust, you car's too quiet! :D

I plan on using MS for boost control...but I've used a profec b on another car, and it worked well. I liked the high and low boost option for texas heat...but thats about it.

Our estimated price for the Axon was including the solenoid.

That Tullos unit is interesting also, we certainly like to keep tabs on the other units out there. Also very cool that they are another two brothers trying to start a company doing this. My brother and I run our company, 2G Engineering... so pick the family you like best :)

I will say this about the business of making an inexpensive boost controller, it is not in and of itself a winning proposition. There is not enough profit to run a business selling less than 1000 of them a year. So, our plan is to use this product as our intro to the market, get the process of manufacturing, sales, etc, down. And then get some more products and software out there so that we can actually get some real sales volume and better margins.

So, um, guess I got a little off on a tangent there... Buy our stuff! :)
Thanks, Hal

Instead of using a plastic vacuum nipple for the pressure signal, what do you think about having an empty 1/8" npt female port so the end user can pick the connection?

Price?

[/QUOTE]The expected price is going to be in the 200-250 range.[/QUOTE]

Sounds like a Hell of a Deal!
:)

My bad, didn't see that information on the first page :)

It would be a bit more difficult to accommodate because of MAP sensor built into the circuit board; it's really tiny.

Hal or Taylor have handled them more than I, though, so perhaps they think differently.

I was just curious. I love pipe threads:bigtu:

Hello guys,

I found this thread from all the hits coming to my website, TullosTech.com. If you guys have any questions about my boost controller please ask. Our controller is simple enough to for a turbo newbie to understand and dial in the settings very quickly, but for those Hard Core Tuners, we have a USB port on our EBC for the advanced tuning using our windows tuning software which can be downloaded off our website. The controller connects directly to the USB port and the driver is automatically installed by windows so there isnt much complication for those advance tuners. We have had prototypes out since two summers ago and the feedback we received on those controllers we built our latest controller.

And to the other guys making an EBC PM or email me if you want to discuss details.

This weekend (Oct 13 - Oct 15) we are going to have a special, which will include free UPS shipping to the lower 48 states so that is $200 shipped. Check out that link above or I will come back here later and post the code in here if there is any interest. We have our solenoids back in stock on saturday.

Again if anyone wants to contact us, we are open M-F 9:00-4:00 pm CST 318-775-0059

Nick Tullos

wow cool

DAMNIT, I don't have enough money to keep jumping on these deals. This is totally unfair, deals like these need to be spread apart. I just bought WI for christ sake!

dammit why did i pay up front for that dyno time i'll hit you guys up later for more info and pprobably a sale.

Pretty tempting, benefits of this unit over another such as the Greddy Profec outside of the low cost(shipped)? They seem very similar in function so I don't see why it wouldn't be wise to safe a few bucks and get the Tullos. Anyone else going to take advantage of this deal?

Your product looks friggin awesome to tell you the truth! I am serously considering getting one.

I took a look at the extra firmware, it looks like the boost control is still "EXPERIMENTAL". does it work well?

The firmware is an option so we can add features to the older prototypes. We haven’t needed to update the firmware in a little over a year. We have added all the features to the boost controller that we desired.

Yes it works very well for internal wastegates and it works great with external wastegates. Because of the different designs I'm sure you understand why external wastegates have better control. I'm running an internal wastegate with a small turbo so I get the extreme condition and it works very well. There are a few people with a similar setup to mine and they are all extremely satisfied. The reason for our low price is to get our product on the market so customers will tell others about our great product.

Here is a discount coupon if anyone would like to try our product. This is for free shipping inside the US this weekend. Enter MTDISCOUNTOCT this code in the checkout box.

Our toll free line is 1-877-832-8256, we are open M-F 9:00pm - 4:00pm

Nick

Oh i was talking about the megasquirt extra firmware. I wanna order this so bad!