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john_heenan 01-25-2019 01:50 AM

Build costs
 
I am looking to forge and turbo my na6 Miata. Though I’m not sure what price I’m going to be looking at for everything and wanted to see if there was anyone out there that has fully built a 1.6 and what the final cost ended up being. I will be doing all the work myself so shop time wouldn’t be added in.

mj1176 01-25-2019 02:10 AM

oh boy get ready

borka 01-25-2019 02:24 AM

$10-20k

And you bought the wrong year car.

Just buy this 1.6 car, it's all done.
https://www.miataturbo.net/cars-sale...ale-obo-98251/

festersays 01-25-2019 03:22 AM

Lars has a sticky that you should read. It's got most of your answers.

The 6 simple steps to reliably turbo your NA/NB

sixshooter 01-25-2019 05:52 AM

It costs thousands more than starting with a 1.8 car. Mazda upgraded more than the engine.

Ian kustafik 01-25-2019 09:14 AM

I'm in around 11k right now. Another grand or so and I'll be back on the road.

sixshooter 01-25-2019 09:25 AM

That's a huge amount of money to be in a non-Forged non-Turbod 1.6 car in any condition. A Mazdaspeed in good condition with 11.75 brakes, forged engine, EFR turbo, VVT head, 6 speed, coilovers, 6ul wheels, Trackspeed triple pass radiator, rollbar, air conditioning, and Lotus seats just went for under 10k.

It sounds like you are committed to this particular chassis so I will say no more about it.

Generally speaking it costs about five grand in parts alone if going with a budget kit like MK Turbo. A simple search will reveal list of necessary parts and prices since this question has been asked about twice a month for the last 10 years. The more recent search results will be relevant since there are newer options available.

Neogixxer 01-25-2019 10:42 AM

Here is my cost break down to just turbo my 1.6 on a budget. Some of the items are used and some of the items where bought on Black Friday sales. I’m gonna install it this weekend.

$130.00 - Innovations Wideband AFR
$172.00 - FM Boost gauge/pillar
$719.00 - FM Turbo mAnifold/Downpipe/BOV
$368.00 - CXRacing Intercooler/Piping
$150.00 - Hybrid T25/T28 Turbo
$615.00- MegaSquirt 2 PNP
$319.00 - 640cc Flow Force injectors
$125.00 - Water/oil lines and fittings
$40.00 - Turbo Blanket / Spark plugs

Hope that helps.

concealer404 01-25-2019 11:02 AM

First, you must build a forge.

Then you forge your Miata.

sixshooter 01-25-2019 11:21 AM

^used parts and $150 turbo take the price down a lot but most people don't put a small $150 turbo on a forged engine.

$1,000 for rods and pistons and rings. $450 for clutch. $400 for boundary oil pump. $150 in engine gaskets. $400 for 3in exhaust and proper muffler.

18psi 01-25-2019 11:51 AM

Forging a car? ALLOFIT?

Neogixxer 01-25-2019 12:02 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1520385)
^used parts and $150 turbo take the price down a lot but most people don't put a small $150 turbo on a forged engine.

$1,000 for rods and pistons and rings. $450 for clutch. $400 for boundary oil pump. $150 in engine gaskets. $400 for 3in exhaust and proper muffler.

This is true, my option was more for if we wanted to ditch the whole forge build. I didn’t even factor in the clutch and diff on my build either.

huesmann 01-25-2019 03:14 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1520389)
Forging a car? ALLOFIT?

Maybe his nickname is Vulcan?

DroolMonkey 01-28-2019 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1520385)
^used parts and $150 turbo take the price down a lot but most people don't put a small $150 turbo on a forged engine.

$1,000 for rods and pistons and rings. $450 for clutch. $400 for boundary oil pump. $150 in engine gaskets. $400 for 3in exhaust and proper muffler.

Definitely going to have to run an aftermarket ecu as well. If he is lucky maybe he can find one for less than $800. But to get a MS3 for that prices is probably not going to happen. Also will need gauges, an intercooler 1.8 diff, driveshaft and axles (unless going with a better option).

borka 01-28-2019 05:27 PM

Why are you guys still posting? OP is a dreamer that is not coming back.

john_heenan 01-28-2019 11:25 PM

Thanks for all the help everyone. Was planning on doing a rebuild in the fall and wanted to see if I really needed to forge to have a reliable car. But from what everyone says a 200-250 whp stock motor seems to be reliable and a good power goal to stay between.

DNMakinson 01-28-2019 11:47 PM


Originally Posted by john_heenan (Post 1520803)
Thanks for all the help everyone. Was planning on doing a rebuild in the fall and wanted to see if I really needed to forge to have a reliable car. But from what everyone says a 200-250 whp stock motor seems to be reliable and a good power goal to stay between.


Originally Posted by sixshooter (Post 1520339)
It costs thousands more than starting with a 1.8 car. Mazda upgraded more than the engine.

200-250 on a stock engine, but Six is pointing out that the CAR will still not be reliable due to weak differential. Brakes will be weak for those power levels as well.

sixshooter 01-29-2019 05:57 AM

And no vtps, smaller fuel tank, smaller clutch and flywheel, can't use a skunk throttle body, worse breathing head, worse breathing intake manifold, less chassis bracing, and more I'm too sleepy to recall.

matrussell122 01-29-2019 09:36 AM

and brakes, and bump steer that is horrible,and small motor.

To build a 1.6 proper you need a NB motor,drivetrain, brakes, fuel tank, front subframe at the minimum

john_heenan 01-29-2019 10:56 AM

Obviously the na8 is better in all those ways but I was handed this car and didn’t buy it myself so I’m gonna work with what I have. Of course will be switching over diff axles driveshaft and all those goodies to be able to hold more power but making big power from such little displacement sounds pretty sick lol.


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