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maxpro 01-23-2018 02:51 PM

Can you modify an Internal Wastegate to an External Wastgate?
 
I was wondering if anyone has converted a Garrett GT3071R from an internal wastegate to an external wastegate? If so what all was involved? Thanks in advance.

Neilv 01-23-2018 02:53 PM

Does your manifold have an external wastegate provision?

If not are there any aftermarket turbine housings for the GT30 line up for external wastegates?

If there are then you just bolt up the flapper and on your way

maxpro 01-23-2018 03:20 PM


Originally Posted by Neilv (Post 1463186)
Does your manifold have an external wastegate provision?

If not are there any aftermarket turbine housings for the GT30 line up for external wastegates?

If there are then you just bolt up the flapper and on your way

I don't believe there is on my unit. Can you point me in the direction to look for the aftermarket turbine housing. Thanks in advance.

Girz0r 01-23-2018 03:27 PM

atpturbo

maxpro 01-23-2018 03:29 PM


Originally Posted by Girz0r (Post 1463193)
atpturbo

Thanks

ryansmoneypit 01-23-2018 03:41 PM

why do you want to do that, internal to external?

maxpro 01-23-2018 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1463198)
why do you want to do that, internal to external?

To prevent boost creep.

ryansmoneypit 01-23-2018 03:48 PM

probably cheaper and easier in the long run, to get an EFR.

18psi 01-23-2018 03:51 PM

Want an NA? EFR
Want a v8? EFR
Engine blown? EFR
Building an exocet? EFR

EFR ALL THE THINGS :D

Braineack 01-23-2018 03:54 PM

surprised you're getting creep on a 3071. what is your boost control strategy, what wastegate "spring" do you have now? what boost are you running?

18psi 01-23-2018 03:55 PM

Scott you need an EFR

Braineack 01-23-2018 03:56 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1463209)
Scott you need an EFR

if I get a 550i as a new daily, ill get two.

maxpro 01-23-2018 04:22 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1463207)
surprised you're getting creep on a 3071. what is your boost control strategy, what wastegate "spring" do you have now? what boost are you running?


Have a manual adjustment and don't remember the the spring rate but the adjustment came with two different springs and it hase the heavier one in it now. It seems to have boost creep at 20 to 21 psi.

18psi 01-23-2018 04:23 PM

that's it? 1 psi?

maxpro 01-23-2018 04:27 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1463221)
that's it? 1 psi?

No that is when it starts happening... jumps from 20 or so to 26, 27.

Braineack 01-23-2018 04:52 PM

remove the wastegate rod form the turbo and then wire the flapper so it's as open as it can go. does it still creep or even make boost?

maxpro 01-23-2018 04:56 PM


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 1463230)
remove the wastegate rod form the turbo and then wire the flapper so it's as open as it can go. does it still creep or even make boost?

Thanks for the suggestion. Will do.

ryansmoneypit 01-23-2018 05:44 PM

a 3071 @26 psi must be fun!

maxpro 01-23-2018 06:16 PM


Originally Posted by ryansmoneypit (Post 1463240)
a 3071 @26 psi must be fun!


It would be if the ECU wasn't cutting the fuel to prevent run away.

shlammed 01-26-2018 09:44 AM

you can weld an IWG shut on the turbine housing and then weld an EWG flange to the manifold. but the preferred way would be a new turbine housing meant for EWG.


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