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TimR 02-06-2014 02:42 PM

Ceramic Fins on TT set up
 
I know TT set ups have been done before. Let me explain my situation and hopefully you can help me out. :2cents:

I just got offered a pair of turbos off of a JDM 2JZ.
Which has ceramic internals and makes me nervous if they will hold up.

What I'm shooting for right around 250rwhp of a 1.8 with forged rods, pistons, and APR studs. With a 3in exhaust all the way back.

Turbo(s) Specs:
Turbine 60/48
Compressor 62/39
.42ar

Thanks,

Tim

MustangMike 02-06-2014 04:34 PM

Take both, sell both, buy sr20 t25, be happy.

concealer404 02-06-2014 04:36 PM


Originally Posted by MustangMike (Post 1099767)
Take both, sell both, buy sr20 t25, be happy.

This. I wouldn't trust 2jz turbos to get you to that power goal. Unless you used both of them or something.

Meeners 02-06-2014 04:43 PM

Take everything I say below with a grain of salt.

Some nissans have ceramic turbines as well. The general consensus of the ceramic nissan turbos (some RB engine nissan turbo comes with this, as well as the Y33 Cima vq30det) is that they shine because their material is light. Unfortunately, when you are pushing them to where you are out of their efficiency they tend to fail and fatigue the blades until they crack. It's another general rule of thumb that they go at "15 psi" but I'm positive is more of a velocity bounding issue.

Check and see where your engine lies on the compressor chart based on the power goal you are looking for and I say if it's all good, get the turbo inspected. If it's still good, booyah... roll with it.

Honestly, you may have a tough time getting rid of them because all the nissan guys know the deal, and most people that sell them have already pushed them pretty hard.

Check the skyline boards, and the cima boards for first hand information if you have a chance.

Meeners 02-06-2014 05:13 PM

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I don't know anything about the 2jz turbo, but from what he posted, it sounds like it might be large enough to push that max hp IMO. A 40 trim 60mm turbine and 64 trim 62mm compressor? is that right? Tiny a/r but larger blade than say a gt28r. Like a small t3 compressor.

edit: I think this is the compressor map for a CT12b turbo if that's what you have
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1391724834

TimR 02-07-2014 09:47 AM


Originally Posted by MustangMike (Post 1099767)
Take both, sell both, buy sr20 t25, be happy.

What do these go for on average?


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1099769)
This. I wouldn't trust 2jz turbos to get you to that power goal. Unless you used both of them or something.

I would be using both.


Originally Posted by Meeners (Post 1099788)
I don't know anything about the 2jz turbo, but from what he posted, it sounds like it might be large enough to push that max hp IMO. A 40 trim 60mm turbine and 64 trim 62mm compressor? is that right? Tiny a/r but larger blade than say a gt28r. Like a small t3 compressor.

edit: I think this is the compressor map for a CT12b turbo if that's what you have
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1391724834

That is the correct compressor map, CT12b's are the standard twins on the JDM 2JZ.

nitrodann 02-07-2014 09:56 AM

Both?

Honestly?

On 2 separate cars?

TimR 02-07-2014 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by nitrodann (Post 1099968)
Both?

Honestly?

On 2 separate cars?

Seriously, one car. I'm looking for a supercharger curve only with twins. I'm open to hear objections of why I shouldn't.

Edit: I have a friend who will be doing all the fab work. Whether single or twin..

Ryan_G 02-07-2014 11:05 AM


Originally Posted by TimR (Post 1099972)

Seriously, one car. I'm looking for a supercharger curve only with twins. I'm open to hear objections of why I shouldn't.

Edit: I have a friend who will be doing all the fab work. Whether single or twin..

Objection: It has been done by a very talented fabricator on this board. The results were mediocre and he said it wasn't worth the additional cost and complexity.

Inline fours do not lend themselves to twin turbo setups very well. There are simply not enough cylinders to produce adequate exhaust gasses.

Savington 02-07-2014 12:02 PM

Twin turbos are great for packaging restraints. We don't have any. Sell them and buy a good single turbo.

concealer404 02-07-2014 12:12 PM


Originally Posted by TimR (Post 1099962)



I would be using both.





Fucking ABORT.

TimR 02-11-2014 10:32 AM

Sold on not using them. Thanks for the input fellas.

MustangMike 02-11-2014 01:45 PM

You can get an SR20 pull off for less than $150. I just grabbed one of ebay for a buddys car for $140 shipped....


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