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guacamole 05-14-2017 08:32 PM

Coolant Reroute on AutoX Turbo 1.8 NA?
 
I know the reroute is highly recommended for turbo track cars, but what about a street/autocross car? If it makes any difference, the runs are typically ~80sec, with 10-15 min in between. Gonna be shooting for ~200 WHP on a SR20 or similar turbo + mspnp2. Thanks!

afm 05-15-2017 12:59 AM


Originally Posted by guacamole (Post 1414353)
I know the reroute is highly recommended for turbo track cars, but what about a street/autocross car? If it makes any difference, the runs are typically ~80sec, with 10-15 min in between. Gonna be shooting for ~200 WHP on a SR20 or similar turbo + mspnp2. Thanks!

Yes

LukeG 05-15-2017 09:28 AM

For a 1.8 turbo doing track duty which kit is typically recommended?

dleavitt 05-15-2017 10:52 AM

A reroute is always nice if you can do it. However, if you care about auto-x classing you need to be aware that for most classes the reroute is not a permitted modification.

rwyatt365 05-15-2017 11:32 AM


Originally Posted by dleavitt (Post 1414454)
A reroute is always nice if you can do it. However, if you care about auto-x classing you need to be aware that for most classes the reroute is not a permitted modification.

^ This

But if you're a non-stock turbo (i.e. not a MSM, you're already in a Modified class of some sort anyway).

IMHO - a reroute is a good thing to do even for a DD, not track-focused NA or NB.

guacamole 05-15-2017 07:50 PM

Thanks for responses so far, looks like I should invest some bloody knuckles in one. To clarify I'm not concerned with classing, in fact the clubs I run with usually only classify race/street tire & novice.

slowcarfast 05-16-2017 10:39 AM


Originally Posted by LukeG (Post 1414441)
For a 1.8 turbo doing track duty which kit is typically recommended?

Reroute spacer can be purchased from a mt.net member here: https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-par...r-mount-88962/ You will also need a kia waterneck, some hoses, and some bolts for the install. It's all well documented on the forum.

ridethecliche 05-16-2017 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by slowcarfast (Post 1414782)
Reroute spacer can be purchased from a mt.net member here: https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-par...r-mount-88962/ You will also need a kia waterneck, some hoses, and some bolts for the install. It's all well documented on the forum.

Bandit also sells a full kit with everything needed for the install!

MOABmiata 05-17-2017 11:16 AM

What classes allow the reroute? I'm assuming that street and street touring do not allow it, but what about SSM or CSP?

LukeG 05-17-2017 11:20 AM


Originally Posted by ridethecliche (Post 1414829)
Bandit also sells a full kit with everything needed for the install!

Thanks!

dleavitt 05-17-2017 11:23 AM


Originally Posted by MOABmiata (Post 1415104)
What classes allow the reroute? I'm assuming that street and street touring do not allow it, but what about SSM or CSP?

CSP is a no.

SSM I believe allows it. Probably the Prepared classes as well.

LukeG 05-17-2017 11:32 AM

Anyone have a link to the bandit kit? Couldn't find it online.

slowcarfast 05-17-2017 11:54 AM


Originally Posted by LukeG (Post 1415111)
Anyone have a link to the bandit kit? Couldn't find it online.

Hawley Performand on Ebay or just pm @TheBandit
Edit: Also Hawley Performance Online Store... I should be getting commission or something...

LukeG 05-17-2017 11:56 AM


Originally Posted by slowcarfast (Post 1415121)

You rock, thanks!

TheBandit 05-17-2017 01:37 PM

I'm always happy to help!

Can confirm, CSP is a no go. SSM is definitely legal.

:bigtu:

LukeG 05-17-2017 01:40 PM


Originally Posted by TheBandit (Post 1415182)
I'm always happy to help!

Can confirm, CSP is a no go. SSM is definitely legal.

:bigtu:

How is the kit on a 1.8 turbo car? Does the coolant line need to be shielded? Any modifications to make it work?

guacamole 05-17-2017 02:15 PM


Originally Posted by LukeG (Post 1415183)
How is the kit on a 1.8 turbo car? Does the coolant line need to be shielded? Any modifications to make it work?

Also what about doing this on a stock car, before I go turbo? It looks like bandit's full kit doesn't include thermostat housing or EGR block off plates?

slowcarfast 05-17-2017 02:52 PM


Originally Posted by LukeG (Post 1415183)
How is the kit on a 1.8 turbo car? Does the coolant line need to be shielded? Any modifications to make it work?

Most of these reroutes get installed on turbo cars, they work great. The reroute is on the intake side of the engine therefore its heat exposure is limited. Shielding of the heater hoses/brake master cylinder is a good idea, but that is true whether or not a reroute is installed. The heater hose location is the same with or without a reroute.


Originally Posted by guacamole (Post 1415200)
Also what about doing this on a stock car, before I go turbo? It looks like bandit's full kit doesn't include thermostat housing or EGR block off plates?

No reason not too, it will work as stock with the advantage of more even cooling across all 4 cylinders, most people just don't feel the need on an N/A car unless they are racing.

TheBandit 05-17-2017 05:19 PM


Originally Posted by guacamole (Post 1415200)
Also what about doing this on a stock car, before I go turbo? It looks like bandit's full kit doesn't include thermostat housing or EGR block off plates?

We offer a couple different options to our kits as our customer needs vary. We do offer the EGR plates as a standalone item and one of our kits includes the thermostat and thermostat housing.

EGR Block-Off
https://squareup.com/store/hawleyper...-egr-block-off

Coolant Spacer Kit (Select "Yes, All Items")
https://squareup.com/store/hawleyper...reroute-spacer

ridethecliche 05-17-2017 06:44 PM

Does the 'allofit' option include the plug for the front if one isn't deleting it? I think I'd messaged you about this way back because I figured 'everything' would include all parts necessary to do the install!


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