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Rafa 12-24-2007 10:13 PM


Originally Posted by cjernigan (Post 189375)
Are the 02239 coils a little shorter than the 19015?

No Chad, they're dead spot on the same size. I put them upside down on the floor next to one another and put a book on top of both. Just in case my eyes deceived me. Anyhow, give me a couple of days and I'll be able to confirm there are no issues mixing both.

Braineack 12-24-2007 10:23 PM

depending on the car they came off of, they have different part numbers. but they should all be the same thing. When you start buying Camry coils, you'll notice they don't look the same.

jrmotorsports55 12-29-2007 08:21 AM

Finally got a pic of the finished product.

http://i168.photobucket.com/albums/u...5/DSC00502.jpg

Jason

paul 12-29-2007 09:00 AM

me too!

http://www.miatamx5.com/cops/cop-21.jpg

http://www.miatamx5.com/cops/cop-22.jpg

olderguy 12-29-2007 09:13 AM

Lookin Good:bigtu:

Running smoother? Any other benefits? Looks like a weight saving:inout:

Braineack 12-29-2007 11:47 AM


Originally Posted by olderguy (Post 190932)
Lookin Good:bigtu:

Running smoother? Any other benefits? Looks like a weight saving:inout:

coilpack is pretty heavy :)

elesjuan 12-29-2007 09:45 PM

Nice valve cover there Paul. :)

elesjuan 12-30-2007 04:03 AM

I'm excited so I had to post this up.

You 1994-1997 guys are looking for the coil pack male side plug to make true PNP and I can help a little! I'm happy that I'm able to contribute to this thread finally!

The 1.8 has a small harness that stays with the engine connecting to the coils, water temp sensor, dash temp sensor, and fuel injectors. I removed one of those and ripped it apart finding that its actually TWO separate harnesses taped together!!!!!

Injectors, Temp sensors are all part of ONE harness, the COILS are part of the second with nothing but tape connecting them!

So what we need to do is find a part number somewhere for THIS connector shell and get some pins!

http://www.jugrnot.com/IMG_0165.jpg

1: Blue +12V Switched
2: Black Ground
3: Brown 2/3 Ignitor
4: Black/White Tach
5: Brown/Yellow 1/4 Ignitor
6: Blank

http://www.jugrnot.com/IMG_0163.jpg
http://www.jugrnot.com/IMG_0166.jpg

I've tried to read this entire thread to make sure nobody has gone over this, so I can't guarantee this is new news... but far as I can see, nobody else has posted about this yet. Now, think we can find this connector for plug and play??

cjernigan 12-30-2007 04:22 AM

Yeah some guy from Russia or Turkey has already done something similar. I don't think he sourced a connector though. He did splice all his connections into that connector though i believe.
I might also be thinking of the guy with the 1.6 in his '99, which was a euro only option.

Rafa 12-30-2007 07:46 AM

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I don't know if this will help others with 96/97 cars but in my case we removed the resin from the male connector attached to the coil packs and connected the new coil on plugs to the female connectors. Crude but effective. This way I was able to at least keep the female connectors in the cars.

elesjuan, I'll check your solution but, the 3 connectors in my car are not equidistant. Don't forget that my connector has 1 missing pin out of the 4.

BTW Chad, I'm using the 2 different parts numbers cops without issues. I just used the 19015 in 1&4 and the 02239 in cylinders 2&3.

Zaphod 12-30-2007 08:26 AM

Well I suppose I am that 1,6 NB Euro guy :cool:
Yes I used the Tyco Pins on that original connector. No problem there and it's nearly pnp.

Greets

Zabac 12-30-2007 02:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Spaniard (Post 191240)
I don't know if this will help others with 96/97 cars but in my case we removed the resin from the male connector attached to the coil packs and connected the new coil on plugs to the female connectors. Crude but effective. This way I was able to at least keep the female connectors in the cars.

elesjuan, I'll check your solution but, the 3 connectors in my car are not equidistant. Don't forget that my connector has 1 missing pin out of the 4.

BTW Chad, I'm using the 2 different parts numbers cops without issues. I just used the 19015 in 1&4 and the 02239 in cylinders 2&3.

congrats, you beat me to it...
this is how far along i got...trying to remove the epoxy and try to retain the plastic in place...ill post more pics once im further along
Attachment 214994
Attachment 214995
but im getting there...

elesjuan 12-30-2007 02:28 PM

I guess that could be an option for me since I smoked my coils and all. lol.

Rafa 12-30-2007 02:57 PM


Originally Posted by whaaamx5 (Post 191329)
congrats, you beat me to it...
this is how far along i got...trying to remove the epoxy and try to retain the plastic in place...
but im getting there...

No I didn't Dan. I made a mess of the resin. Yours are the way I would've liked to do mines. My job was pretty ugly but I did want to retain a way to unplug the coils as fast as I could at any given moment (you know just in case I messed up something in my MS again:gay:).

I really would like to get additional info on how are you planning to remove the rest of the resin. If you pull that part of you're going to have the best of both worlds.

Rafa 12-30-2007 03:01 PM

Dan, here's a thought: what would happen to the metal pins if you tried to use some kind of liquid solvent to dissolve the epoxy resin? Let me know if you want to pursue that route so I can contact a friend who's the technical director at a local paint manufacturing company and deals with resins and solvents everyday.

elesjuan 12-30-2007 03:43 PM


Originally Posted by Spaniard (Post 191345)
Dan, here's a thought: what would happen to the metal pins if you tried to use some kind of liquid solvent to dissolve the epoxy resin? Let me know if you want to pursue that route so I can contact a friend who's the technical director at a local paint manufacturing company and deals with resins and solvents everyday.

I've just spent 90 minutes looking through Tycos online catalog for a connector that looks somewhat remotely close to the connector I photographed with no luck at all.

Problem with liquid solvent is if it'll dissolve the epoxy it'll likely just melt the plastic away too.. But I could be wrong.

There might be a plastic safe epoxy remover?

Rafa 12-30-2007 07:02 PM


Originally Posted by elesjuan (Post 191356)
I've just spent 90 minutes looking through Tycos online catalog for a connector that looks somewhat remotely close to the connector I photographed with no luck at all.

Problem with liquid solvent is if it'll dissolve the epoxy it'll likely just melt the plastic away too.. But I could be wrong.

There might be a plastic safe epoxy remover?

That's a good point. I'll ask my friend but I don't see how to use a solvent without it touching the plastic on the outside.

elesjuan 12-30-2007 11:30 PM

Really hoped someone had a line on that connector I posted.

Think when it warms up I'm gonna hit up the junk yard and start grabbing those connectors if I can find them on anything else Mazda. They like to use the same plugs on other cars so I've got some fair luck getting a few.

If I can just find the little crimp pins then I'd really be golden. Don't really need the solution myself, I've got this pigtail I'm planning on using.. Just on the lookout for everyone else.

lazzer408 12-31-2007 05:41 AM

Why are you guys trying to save the original plugs/connectors?

Rafa 12-31-2007 07:23 AM


Originally Posted by lazzer408 (Post 191630)
Why are you guys trying to save the original plugs/connectors?

Hi lazzer :bowdown::bowdown::bowdown: in my particular case to have a way to disconnect the plugs if I face any emergency or what if I want to change anything in the MS such as now when I have to make a mod to control my car's fans?


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