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cjernigan 04-09-2007 01:41 PM

If it doesn't say "external" then it will be designed for an internal. External gates aren't as common, most people run internal. Those are the prices you were looking for.

Dow.tom 04-09-2007 01:43 PM

Thank you, again. Also what size intercooler do most people run? Length X Width X Depth?

ALSO: are internal wastegates adjustable? If so how?

cjernigan 04-09-2007 01:57 PM

Some internal wastegates are adjustable via tightening the actuator rod. You can also increase boost via a manual boost controller inline with the WG signal line.
You have read Braineacks FAQ right? He states alot of information in there, read it front to back and try to retain as much of it as possible. Nearly everything has been done and he has documented most of it.

Dow.tom 04-09-2007 02:00 PM

Okay, yes i have read, just some leaves me a little puzzled. I thought you could, but was unsure if you could place an MBC inline with the WG signal. I believe it goes inline BEFORE it reaches the wastegate, correct?

Braineack 04-09-2007 02:01 PM

it's really up to you what you can fit in there vs. afford.

I'm running a $80 Ebay 18x12x3" intercooler and have no issues, Fit's perfectly with the A/C dryer intact.

You could easily fit a 24x12x3" IC but it would have to be offset:
http://flyinmiata.com/turbos/images/IMG_3064.jpg

You won't get any taller than 11-12" in there, and no wider than 30" end-to-end.

Dow.tom 04-09-2007 02:29 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Garre...14573548QQrdZ1

Would this turbo be good enough for my goals of 200BWHP? I plan on findng on that isnt from ebay, just making sure the AR and exhaust are a good size

Braineack 04-09-2007 02:35 PM

yeah i linked that one above....after looking at it again it looks odd.

the compressor looks too small and the CHRA doesn't look right. look at my second link.

what is your budget for a turbo?

Dow.tom 04-09-2007 02:39 PM

I'm trying to make everything under 2000 if at all possible. I am at ~700 after Manifold, downpipe, and MBC.

I am still in search for a
TURBO
Intercooler w/ piping
BOV
O2 Clamp (if needed)
Air filter


And anything else i may need, I've been told Emanage and 330 Injectors? Or should I use something else.

magnamx-5 04-09-2007 02:51 PM

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/T3-T4...QQcmdZViewItem itll work but it is to expensive

magnamx-5 04-09-2007 02:53 PM

no emanage required, just a fpr.

Dow.tom 04-09-2007 02:58 PM

Do I need new Injectors or fuel pump? or can i get away with simply a FPR? And where would I source one?

magnamx-5 04-09-2007 03:02 PM

injectors would make it easier afpr can be had through ebay or the classifieds here. Fuel pump from lightning motorsports or another source. check out the faq. it explains all this.
https://www.miataturbo.net/forums/showthread.php?t=4288

Dow.tom 04-09-2007 03:11 PM

I was able to source the FPR for 200 @ Begi, however, looking at lightnign motor sports they only carry Miata 1994-97 190lph, Miata 1994-97 255lph, or Miata 1994-97 255lph-HP.

They do not carry the 190 HP as mentioned in Braineack's post.

EDIT: sorry, they had a new page, and i found it.

magnamx-5 04-09-2007 03:18 PM

:rofl: tom this just isnt as hard as you make it out to be, it just takes some reading, and time.

Dow.tom 04-09-2007 03:20 PM

I make things alot harder than they are. I never had this much trouble with my toyota MR2 lol. But mazda... eh. maybe it's me lol

Dow.tom 04-09-2007 03:43 PM

Okay after all your help, and all the "research I have compiled a list. Please feel free to amend or point out anything I may have missed:

BEGi Manifold: $464 New
Ebay T3/04 60 Trim Turbo: $190 "New"
BEGi Downpipe: $285 New
Ebay MBC: $16
Ebay BOV: ~$33
MiataTurbo.net O2 Clamp: $65
Dual Feed Rail: Modified OEM
K & N Air Filter: $22
BEGi AFPR: $200 New
Walbro 190 HP FP: $80 New

Total: 1354
Optional:

1993 Supra Na Injectors: $90
Total: 1444


Still Need:

Intercooler
Intercooler pipes

magnamx-5 04-09-2007 03:49 PM

looks good to me tom :bigtu:

Dow.tom 04-09-2007 03:50 PM

Did I restore some of your lost confidence in me? heh. Now to source some Intercooler and pipes.

Braineack 04-09-2007 03:55 PM

the begi downpipe will not work for that turbo.... Call BEGi and ask them what t3 outlet their downpipe is for....the t3 has about 5 different turbine swingarms. I'd do a little more research on exactly what turbo you want to go with.

if you were willing to spend it then I'd go with brand new components:

http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/me...egory_Code=TBN

http://www.atpturbo.com/Merchant2/me...egory_Code=WGT

wideopentuning (kelly) on here can give discounts through ATP, so contact him for a final price....this way you know exactly what you are getting is 100% genuine products.

Paramour208 04-09-2007 03:58 PM


Originally Posted by Dow.tom (Post 100511)
Did I restore some of your lost confidence in me? heh. Now to source some Intercooler and pipes.

You really should give me a call.
That turbo WILL give you power you want, but I believe it will be upwards of 4000-4500 rpm before you see it. If your car is a daily driver, you are going to want a turbo that will spool much faster. A much smaller and faster spooling t25 will make the car much more spirited for daily driving with the modest hp you are looking for.


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