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Old 06-12-2009, 01:35 AM
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Default Diy CXracing intercooler *56k warning*

I wanted to get rid of my old intercooler setup because

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1. It was ugly
2. It rubbed on the belts sometimes
3. hot side recieved higher temperatures due to passing in front of the fan.

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Tools required...

1. Safety glasses
2. Ear plugs/muffs
3. Protective clothing for welding
4. A chop saw or some way to cut the pipe
5. Welder and filler rod (also stainless steel brush to clean aluminum)
6. Dremel with sand paper ends/cut off wheel
7. Brain


Tools helpful...

1. Table vice to hold pipes in position
2. Sharpie pen to mark pipes where to cut
3. Music to rock out to while your fabbin.

Material list...

1. CXracing intercooler kit off ebay CXRacing Intercooler + Piping Kit ACURA RSX TSX MIATA:eBay Motors (item 190310932189 end time Jun-06-09 18:49:07 PDT) 150$
2. Flat bar to mount intercooler = scrap
3. Pipe pieces = scrap
4. Extra flapper wheel/ sanding/ cut off disks = 15$ (for the whole kit)

You assume all risks and i will not be held liable for you screwing up your car if you do

This writeup was done on a car without A/C or PS. Im pretty sure it could be done with PS but the intercooler mounts to the AC brackets.

Anyway...

First i cut off some of the condensor bracket so that my intercooler would sit up as high as possible.
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Then i marked where my holes were and welded 2 brackets on the end with a slight angle (to match the angle of the radiator)

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I marked out where the holes were and drilled them out

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Heres what it looks like from the front

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And where the bracket ties in

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Next i clocked my turbo down using a rubber mallet. It ended up being over a 90 so that the pipe would clear. (Be careful! Get some pliers to compress the snap ring while you beat on it)

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Grab one of your 90's and mark out your first cut from the turbo. This one had to be cut shorter or else it would hit the coolant return hose.

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Next move further along and mark your next cut. You will want to angle this cut slightly as this is where it starts to go south

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Grab another 90 and mark out where you want it to land on as this will turn down. Be sure to get the right angle you want so that its verticle or a little over for an easier transition ( i had to cut it twice before i got it right )

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See?

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Got it tacked on now for the intercooler side

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Grab one of your 45's and chop it off right at the end of the bend

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Grab your 75 and chop it so that its heading straight up ( you will have to shorten this piece )

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Mark it cut it



There it is in position

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Take one of your drops and cut a very small section so that it will be beaded. Make sure you angle this cut as close as possible to the upper pipe so that there in line. ( i actually grabbed a longer pipe so that it was safer/easier to cut)

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All tacked togethor

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This is the last test fit before welding

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Ready for the heat!

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Welds

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close up

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Other pipe

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All done

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Hot side is all done. Tomorrow at work im gonna make the BOV flange as well as the small pipe for the IAC.
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Old 06-12-2009, 02:42 AM
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Nice! Using wire or tig for this?
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Very nice build, NW turbo's FTW!

Question:
Originally Posted by elesjuan
Using wire or tig for this?
Answer:
Welder and filler rod
(so TIG)

And the question should technically be MIG or TIG, as there are wire feed TIG's as well, in some ways they're a little easier (point and shoot) but can't be nearly as pretty if you're good with a filler rod.
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Looks good. Surely beats paying out the *** for a prebuilt kit, when you can do this for under $200 (or whatever you paid). I wish a had a MIG or TIG machine for myself, I would be welding all kind of stuff. Actually, I may buy myself one for my birthday.
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Originally Posted by curly
Very nice build, NW turbo's FTW!

Question:


Answer:
(so TIG)

And the question should technically be MIG or TIG, as there are wire feed TIG's as well, in some ways they're a little easier (point and shoot) but can't be nearly as pretty if you're good with a filler rod.
I have a stick welder that uses filler rods..

I did somehow miss his "welder and filler rod" part of the post..
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Wish i knew how to weld.
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Originally Posted by jobambo
Wish i knew how to weld.
Take a welding class at the closest campus with one. It wont make you a pro, but you can learn the basics pretty quickly.
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Sorry i guess i should of clarafied. Im using a Miller TIG Welder - Dynasty 200 DX AC/DC TIG/Stick with 4043 filler rod.
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That looks pretty good! Welded charge pipes sure beat all the cobbled together couplers and bends that make up my piping.
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**** me running sideways in a handstand! 2800$!!??


I can has, Yes?
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i actually bought it 2 years ago when it was 2399 shipped no tax. Since then miller has upped the pricing.
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So i finished the piping today at 7 but had to get ready to see The Hangover. BTW that movie is hilarious and i highly reccomend seeing it.

Anyway back to the intercooler. I went to Central Welding to pick up up some more supplies and saw some drill attachments that would be great. Added 10$ to the tab.

Got my boss to cut out the flange on the CNC router

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I marked where i wanted the BOV

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Started drillin holes around the perimeter

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I used one of the drill bit sanding attachements to sand it nice and smooth

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I used a hole saw at work to make a nice fit

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Sanded the flange nice and smooth

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Cut the pipe shorter so it wouldnt sit too high

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That drill sander works wonders

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Test fit

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Welded

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What the BOV looks like mounted

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Heres me welding. Im not a hillbilly; those are my work clothes and they keep me nice and cool in the hot shop.

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Okay now on to the cold side piping. Grab one of your 90's and mount it on with the shorter side to the intercooler. No cutting required for this piece. Grab another 90 and cut it short and leave the bend all there.

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Heres the only uncut piece of this piping kit

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Under side

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figureing out where to cut .

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Marked it out and cut it

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I decided to make the cold side 1 piece so theres the fit up and marked the line

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All tacked togethor

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Marked the hole for the IAC valve

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Took some 3/4" OD tube and test fitted it

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Got it tacked on

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Last fitup before final welding.

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All welded up, Notice the beading on the IAC valve. It wouldnt be a tight fit without it.

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Heres what the BOV looks like mounted on the hot side

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All done with the intercooler. Just need to get an IAT bung welded on and fab a bracket so that the wastegate has something to clamp too

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Overall it took about 5 hours to do for my first time. I have 3 pipes i didnt use. Also i didnt use lots of the couplers and T-bolts. When i take the turbo off again im going to weld a piece of 2 1/2" aluminum over it so i can actually get the right coupler and a T-bolt around it. I must say that my engine bay looks much better/cleaner. I got a K&N air filter coming in the mail to compliment my new piping. The old one i smashed down so it would fit.

Notes...

I used a abrasive chop saw (used for cutting steel) and would of made much better cuts using a band saw or a chop saw with a carbide blade.

Tack everything togethor first and test fit prior to final weldout.
"Takes just as long to do it right as it does to do it wrong" -My father

I used a water hose to spray inside of all the pipes before final connection to get all the aluminum shavings out.

Overall i spent approx 170$ for a full intercooler kit and was very easy (although welding for some might be a problem)

Enjoy!
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Someday i'm going to drive down to renton and sbk is going to weld my intercooler piping with his fancy schmancy tig =P

The difference between his CXracing IC setup and mine is that i've got 200% more couplers holding everything together.
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even though the intercooler piping is done i figured id remake my intake piping with the leftovers.

I took the last 75 i had and cut it off right after the bend. Then i took one of the leftover drops from a previous cut that had some bend on it and cut them

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Took the original greddy tube and chopped it off at the very end so the air filter can clamp on it

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It was ****** hot so i dropped it

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All welded up



At this point everything was good to go and i turned the key and started IMMIDIATELY whcih was sweet. But my old fuel map was tuned on 7psi of fuel now im at 65. I turned off the car turned the key to the ON position to change the table back to stock.. I heard some hissing and smelled fuel. I turned off the car and holy **** my fuel feed line busted off.

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Probably dumped 2 cups of fuel on the ground atleast. Went to shucks and got some hose clamps and double clamped that hose so no more bursting.

I made quick wastegate bracket from some scrap aluminum i had laying in the back.

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Your recent diy threads are awesome. thanks for taking the time.
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Your recent diy threads are awesome. thanks for taking the time.
Your welcome

I know i like lots of pictures looking at threads. And if that helps one fellow MT.netter with his install then it was worth it.
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Me needs to learn welding. Aluminum. But welding steel is first.
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