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jhoexp 03-06-2007 07:01 PM

Downpipe for T25 and HKS manifold on a 1.8 NB.
 
Finally I have collected all the bits for my turbo kit....except for the downpipe.

I have a HKS cast manifold (like the greddy one) and a sr20det T25.

I tought I should be able to weld a downpipe myself, but the problem is that I haven't really the skill to do a good job and not much time to dedicate to learn to weld... but I want my turbo miata asap, cause my project started in october and now I really want to see this car done.

What do you think I can do?
There is someone that has already built one for this setup and sells a downpipe or can build one for me?
Begi doesn't......and selling the hks manifold to someone is very hard here because no one has a turbo miata in italy (mine will be the first) and shipping abroad from italy cost an eye and a leg.

Buying the manifold+downpipe combo from begi seems the only thing to do...
Any other options?

Thanks...:sadwavey:

greddymx5 03-06-2007 07:08 PM

http://www.ilmotorsport.de/shop/arti...a3d949fb9f803d

Its a hks downpipe (only bigger)but only for the 1.6, but will be close to what you want (and in europe)

jhoexp 03-06-2007 07:29 PM

Thanks, doesn't look so bad...
The exhaust flange is different (sr20det T25 has a 5 bolt style flange) but I should be able to modify just that... I don't know if the placement is ok, anyway...

greddymx5 03-06-2007 07:48 PM

I know it uses the 300zx tt housing (4 bold) but i think there will be no big issues there...
I hounestly don't know is it hooks up to the 1.8 downpipe...

UofACATS 03-06-2007 09:10 PM


Originally Posted by jhoexp (Post 89857)
What do you think I can do?
There is someone that has already built one for this setup and sells a downpipe or can build one for me?

Buying the manifold+downpipe combo from begi seems the only thing to do...
Any other options?

Check this in-house fab.
https://www.miataturbo.net/forums/showthread.php?t=7130

jhoexp 03-11-2007 05:13 PM

Thanks :)
Sent a ton of mail to everyone... bu no answer for now.
Asked begi for a manifold + downpipe combo but no reply....
:confused:

PaKMaN 03-11-2007 06:43 PM

You know what I can do for you. I'm also running the HKS manifold with a T25(share pics of your setup) and I'm going to be taking my car to a shop here to build me a custom exhaust.. I can have one made for you too.. the only problem I see is that my car is an NA not a NB.

jhoexp 03-11-2007 07:23 PM

Pm for you Pakman!
Na or Nb, as long as we have the same manifold/turbo, should not be a problem...

Tomorrow (my time is gmt +1 :) ) I'll take all the picture...

greddymx5 03-14-2007 03:31 PM

Would it be easy to adapt the begi greddy downpipe for it..

Maybe if you ask begi there is a possibility to have some mods on that downpipe.
I use the same combo (91 car,94block,99head)
The placement is very simular as the greddy... Ask them not to weld a flang on it and sent you a t25/28 flange.
Also ,as the placing of the turbo is a bit more to the front of the car, ask them to lenghten up the pipes on the flange side...

cjernigan 03-14-2007 04:01 PM

Or someone needs to send Begi a HKS mani so they can build one. If you're serious about having a quality DP made, then go that route.

Braineack 03-14-2007 04:22 PM

call corky, if they have time they'll build you a DP if you send them your manifold and turbo.

Mechazawa 03-14-2007 06:27 PM

Depending on your fabrication skills you could make the downpipe, but only tack it, then take it to a pro to finish the welding. That would be cheep and it would still be your downpipe.

greddymx5 03-14-2007 06:36 PM

I think the market is to smal to create 4 new downpipes (1.6 & 1.8)(na/nb)

jhoexp 03-14-2007 09:07 PM

Greddymx5, CJernigan I asked Begi about a downpipe for the hks manifold. Stephanie said that they don't build one for that manifold that suit my needs.

Ok, then I asked them if they could build one for me, I proposed to ship my hks manifold. No reply.
Then asked again if they can sell to me one of their downpipe so that I can modify it. No reply.
Then asked again if they can sell to me a manifold and downpipe combo and ship it to italy. No reply.

Now, tell me...what do I have to think about that??:confused:
Are they so busy that they even have time to say: "Sorry, we don't want to ship it to Italy" (why??) or "We won't do that for you" ??

I think it's the wrong way to make a new customer. Very disappointed. :td:

cjernigan 03-14-2007 09:14 PM

Weird about them not communicating. Stephanie who takes care of most of the office things has posted on the forums today even so I don't see why they would not reply.

tronik 03-18-2007 01:49 AM

I have the same issue. Greddy kit that I want to put on a '97. oh, and I'm a cheap bastard. The HKS manifold fits that build but doesn't solve the DP question. I'd love to hear what everyone finds out

magnamx-5 03-19-2007 12:50 PM


Originally Posted by jhoexp (Post 92567)
Greddymx5, CJernigan I asked Begi about a downpipe for the hks manifold. Stephanie said that they don't build one for that manifold that suit my needs.

Ok, then I asked them if they could build one for me, I proposed to ship my hks manifold. No reply.
Then asked again if they can sell to me one of their downpipe so that I can modify it. No reply.
Then asked again if they can sell to me a manifold and downpipe combo and ship it to italy. No reply.

Now, tell me...what do I have to think about that??:confused:
Are they so busy that they even have time to say: "Sorry, we don't want to ship it to Italy" (why??) or "We won't do that for you" ??

I think it's the wrong way to make a new customer. Very disappointed. :td:

Dude you are in Itally the customs and shipping hassles are enormous when dealing with overseas i would think it wouldnt be worth there trouble ot get you stuff. And in the long run it would be easier for you to get something done local.

greddymx5 03-19-2007 12:54 PM

ask begi to sent you the flange and go to a local shop?

jhoexp 03-19-2007 02:58 PM


Originally Posted by magnamx-5 (Post 94083)
Dude you are in Itally the customs and shipping hassles are enormous when dealing with overseas i would think it wouldnt be worth there trouble ot get you stuff. And in the long run it would be easier for you to get something done local.

Ok, I am in Italy. Anyway it's not an excuse for begi to not reply my e-mail.

Even if the customs and shipping are expensive, the result is that the downpipe + shipping + customs etc cost a LOT less then having it fabbed here.
In Italy (thanks to the euro and the hight cost of the labour) exhaust shops that can do a downpipe are so expensive that It will cost around 500 euro (more that 700$) not considering that I must live the car in the shop, and let them do the job.

Consider that mine will be the first turbo miata in Italy, and turbo-ing a Na car is almost unknown here.

greddymx5 03-19-2007 03:07 PM

I stil think the begi greddy dp will be your best bet... Same turbo location,combined with a 1.6 (high flow) cat.
Take it to a welder and let him add the extra space...


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