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mr steve 01-17-2018 09:01 AM

CFM X 0.069 =LBS/MIN

https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...9cac8bd89d.jpg

willeywilson 01-18-2018 10:05 AM

Thanks Mr Steve, although this is for a TD04H-19T, with mine being a TD04L-19T would that change that map (even though it is specifically called a compressor map).

Thanks

mr steve 01-18-2018 12:45 PM

I had originally thought that you may be able to get there by adding a cutout early in the exhaust. This map makes me think it wont get there. Should be very little diff between td04h vs L, AFAIK

18psi 01-18-2018 12:59 PM

the restriction is in the turbine, so adding an exhaust cutout doesn't help it flow more.

mr steve 01-18-2018 09:00 PM

is there an echo in here or something?

18psi 01-18-2018 09:04 PM

Yep. you :)

andyfloyd 01-23-2018 05:43 PM

You can get either a VF39/43/48. They will all get you around 300whp but probably not much more than that. The TD04L turbine is tiny and even though you have a 19T wheel the turbine is not sized correctly to be able to take advantage of the compressor wheel. The WRX guys that upgraded to a 19T never really made much more power.

Pepovr 02-18-2018 04:03 PM

A little off topic but do you think he needs a billet oil pump at 300whp?

Savington 02-18-2018 04:05 PM


Originally Posted by Pepovr (Post 1467634)
A little off topic but do you think he needs a billet oil pump at 300whp?

Not a requirement. An upgraded damper would be a good idea, though.

Pepovr 02-18-2018 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1467635)
Not a requirement. An upgraded damper would be a good idea, though.

That’s reassuring. I have another question. Can he use his 19t wheel and housing on a bigger hotside turbo like a ihi vf or td05 (will it be worth it)?

mx5-kiwi 02-18-2018 05:34 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1467635)
Not a requirement. An upgraded damper would be a good idea, though.

I too would like an upgraded damper on our engine, suggestions where to source (currently seeing as my go to sources, you and 949, are not carrying them at the moment)?

Pepovr 02-18-2018 05:38 PM


Originally Posted by mx5-kiwi (Post 1467645)
I too would like an upgraded damper on our engine, suggestions where to source (currently seeing as my go to sources, you and 949, are not carrying them at the moment)?

Fab9tuning

willeywilson 05-16-2018 05:06 PM

Bringing this up again as i have been rearead quite a bit around VF43/48 as suggested and just have a nagging feeling that I may may be pushing it to the edge of its capabilities giving me ~300whp, and I'd rather something reliable than constantly stressed (like my poor TD04L-19T is right now).

So, asking the same question above, could i Transplant my 19T wheel into a TD05H-16G with new cover plate? Would this get me where I want to be or would it be laggy as hell?

Also, i im now running a lovely Kraken cast manifold, downpipe and 3" exhaust, as i was sick of reparing my DIY effort.

Cheers

Wilson

18psi 05-16-2018 05:50 PM

there's thousands of Subaru's making 300whp for decades on the vf.

do you just like overthinking things? if yes, then by all means do some weird off the wall hybrid turbo setup and enjoy the small potential that it might not totally suck vs pushing the easy and cheap button.

turbo's are not "stressed" when they're within their appropriate comp/turbine maps.

willeywilson 05-16-2018 06:13 PM

Sorry, yeah i do overthink everything. What i mean is, if i fit a VF48 and run it at 20psi to achieve 300. How long is is it going to last before it shits itself. Given I've gone through two TD04 cores at 18psi it makes me nervous it wont be very reliable .

piripi 05-16-2018 06:48 PM

I don’t know about VF48 but I’ve ran my VF39 on my WRX wagon for almost 100000 miles of abuse. Still has cero play. 305whp/315lbs.

I know of quite a few similar mileage cases with Vf39s

18psi 05-16-2018 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by willeywilson (Post 1482633)
Sorry, yeah i do overthink everything. What i mean is, if i fit a VF48 and run it at 20psi to achieve 300. How long is is it going to last before it shits itself. Given I've gone through two TD04 cores at 18psi it makes me nervous it wont be very reliable .

tons of guys running td04s at 18 peak for 100,000+ too

you probably started with unhealthy ones or some other issue.

ive seen 200,000mi on a td04 before

andyfloyd 05-18-2018 04:06 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 1482639)
tons of guys running td04s at 18 peak for 100,000+ too

you probably started with unhealthy ones or some other issue.

ive seen 200,000mi on a td04 before

I run my TD04 @ 18psi on my WRX, has well over 200k on it.:wavey:

willeywilson 05-18-2018 06:01 PM

Well my first one killed itself due to a lack of oil (AN-3 pipe) and my latest core has developed more radial play than i would like, to the point where ive slightly enlarged the housing. And thats with AN-4 pipe and at least 600ml/min oil flow.

Looks like a rebuild kit is required before the nurburging trip next week. Although i was using the repair as an excuse to upgrade.

18psi 05-18-2018 06:14 PM

it's like 50 bux for a decent rebuild kit. can't really beat that price.
in fact if you want a spare td04 (started smoking, so needs rebuild) and a rebuild kit I can probably send you both for $50+ship lol


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