High intake temps?
It's been getting hotter here in so cal (not super hot though) and I think my setup is being affected by it quite heavily.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...f639928869.png This is a single pull and as you can see intake temps get pretty high. And with the MAT based timing retard I'm out like 3 degrees by 135F. Are these normal temps? Ambient temp is only like 83F and cruising temps stay around 90-95F. Maybe that eBay intercooler I got an inter-heater or something. This is on a 2554R btw. |
Originally Posted by Spei
(Post 1574762)
It's been getting hotter here in so cal (not super hot though) and I think my setup is being affected by it quite heavily.
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...f639928869.png This is a single pull and as you can see intake temps get pretty high. And with the MAT based timing retard I'm out like 3 degrees by 135F. Are these normal temps? Ambient temp is only like 83F and cruising temps stay around 90-95F. Maybe that eBay intercooler I got an inter-heater or something. This is on a 2554R btw. I went full baller and bought a Garrett 24x6.5x3 core with cast endtanks. Should be here by next week and I'm expecting it to make a pretty big difference |
Originally Posted by andyfloyd
(Post 1574773)
I have a thread on the same exact thing. You need a better intercooler. Probably that core does not have turbulators internally. My vibrant 12800 which is a decent intercooler also lacks internal turbulators and it heatsoaks pretty quick although not nearly as bad as yours is.
I went full baller and bought a Garrett 24x6.5x3 core with cast endtanks. Should be here by next week and I'm expecting it to make a pretty big difference |
Originally Posted by Spei
(Post 1574776)
I'll go post my data there. Are there any currently known "ebay intercoolers" that people are buying? I checked out the sticky post, all the links there don't work anymore. only link in that thread that works and I'm unsure if it's good or not. Or do I have to go baller?
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What intercooler are you using now? Has the car been on a dyno at current boost levels? When you reach the limit of what the turbo can flow you start making a ton of heat. If that's the case a better intercooler won't really help you. Can you turn the boost down a couple psi and get another log?
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Originally Posted by SpartanSV
(Post 1574778)
What intercooler are you using now? Has the car been on a dyno at current boost levels? When you reach the limit of what the turbo can flow you start making a ton of heat. If that's the case a better intercooler won't really help you. Can you turn the boost down a couple psi and get another log?
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Originally Posted by andyfloyd
(Post 1574777)
The new vibrant stuff is better than the older one that I have, treadstone is also good. They are much better than eBay cores.
Originally Posted by SpartanSV
(Post 1574778)
What intercooler are you using now? Has the car been on a dyno at current boost levels? When you reach the limit of what the turbo can flow you start making a ton of heat. If that's the case a better intercooler won't really help you. Can you turn the boost down a couple psi and get another log?
https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...c4f867541b.png |
Originally Posted by andyfloyd
(Post 1574779)
Looks like he's hitting 11.4psi, that's not out of the turbos efficiency, or shouldn't be. Maybe he's got a boost leak and it's spinning the compressor higher and heating it that way. Or maybe that intercooler just sucks ass.
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Originally Posted by andyfloyd
(Post 1574779)
Looks like he's hitting 11.4psi, that's not out of the turbos efficiency, or shouldn't be. Maybe he's got a boost leak and it's spinning the compressor higher and heating it that way. Or maybe that intercooler just sucks ass.
I'm not definitively saying he's out of turbo, but I think in his case he's close enough that it should be investigated before assuming the intercooler is insufficient. |
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Originally Posted by SpartanSV
(Post 1574783)
Yep that intercooler is garbage. A 65 degree swing on 10 psi is pretty damning evidence. Do some research on what to look for in an ebay intercooler. You selected pretty much the worst style.
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Originally Posted by Spei
(Post 1574784)
Bar and plate atleast right?
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Originally Posted by SpartanSV
(Post 1574785)
That's a good start.
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Get yourself a precision 350. Done.
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Originally Posted by andyfloyd
(Post 1574788)
Get yourself a precision 350. Done.
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ebay intercooler.
There's your problem. Something that actually works will be able to hold your IAT at about 10 to 20 degrees above whatever ambient is in most cases. |
If you are going to do an ebay intercooler, find one that has a picture looking in one of the ports and see if it has dense tuebulators. My ebay one was a whole $70 and I haven't seen anything above 30F above ambient running 10psi on a TD04L-13T.
Heck, I would have to check logs, but even with my air heater JRSC spinning at 17krpm (way over spinning) I was only seeing the kinds of temperature rises you are seeing with the turbo. (60-70F over ambient) |
Originally Posted by x_25
(Post 1574796)
If you are going to do an ebay intercooler, find one that has a picture looking in one of the ports and see if it has dense tuebulators. My ebay one was a whole $70 and I haven't seen anything above 30F above ambient running 10psi on a TD04L-13T.
Heck, I would have to check logs, but even with my air heater JRSC spinning at 17krpm (way over spinning) I was only seeing the kinds of temperature rises you are seeing with the turbo. (60-70F over ambient) How do these look? https://cimg9.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...dd8eb04d6c.jpg https://cimg2.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...7233fd2edb.jpg https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...852ec39e06.jpg Did you get that one that deezums found? |
That second picture is what you want to see, yeah. I don't remember what I got, I thiiink a 27.5x2.5x7 or something like that? It has three mount points on the top and the inlet and outlet are towards the bottom.
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Originally Posted by x_25
(Post 1574809)
That second picture is what you want to see, yeah. I don't remember what I got, I thiiink a 27.5x2.5x7 or something like that? It has three mount points on the top and the inlet and outlet are towards the bottom.
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