How many of you changed motor mounts?
I'm about to do the clutch job and I'm thinking its about time to change motor mounts too...its a 1990...120k on the clock. I'll prolly go with the MS motor mounts, and I was just wondering how many of you guys would recommend these and how much of a PITA these are to put in?
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I've always wondered the same. I'm stupid and didn't do it when I had my motor out!!! I did do the clutch then though.
Drive side looks easy as it's right there, may require removing the DP. |
I've heard from people that have done it, that it's not as big a job as it sounds. Looking at how much my motor rocks during starts/stops and on the dyno, it's near the top of my list now as I am sure that mine are done for.
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pulled my motor out and one was not attached at all and the other has a hairline crack in it.the car has 200k.
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ooo...wow, thats not good ^ at all lol.
Can it be done w/ ramps and a jack...w/ everything attached? how involved is this...I just keep finding motor pulls...not sites on just changing motor mounts. |
Originally Posted by miatamania
(Post 48100)
ooo...wow, thats not good ^ at all lol.
Can it be done w/ ramps and a jack...w/ everything attached? how involved is this...I just keep finding motor pulls...not sites on just changing motor mounts. |
ah...03...didn't go back that far...theres a TON of info on motor mounts on there :D.
I figured you could just do that, but I heard somewhere otherwise. |
i just dropped my motor, the car only has 97k on it but both mounts were almost completely torn
before i put it back in im going to drop in some mazda comp mounts |
The MS mounts are nice. You will notice a lot less shifter waggle when get on and off throttle.
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I changed my motor mounts to MS mounts and it made a hell of a difference in terms of the drivetrain feeling more solid,I highly recomend doing this mod to any miata and especially a miata that is turbo or supercharged.
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I did mine when the engine was out of the car, feels more solid.
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i replaced my motor mounts meyself with the MS replacements. it took me longer than most people said it would, but all you really need is a floor jack, jackstands and some wood blocks.
remove the front wheels too. i used a 24" prybar to make adjustments to get the holes to line up. at 100k on my '92, one mount was compressed, the other had tears in the material (not the metal). the new mounts also brought back improved shifter feel. |
::adds another project to the list::
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Originally Posted by kung fu jesus
(Post 48121)
i replaced my motor mounts meyself with the MS replacements. it took me longer than most people said it would, but all you really need is a floor jack, jackstands and some wood blocks.
remove the front wheels too. i used a 24" prybar to make adjustments to get the holes to line up. at 100k on my '92, one mount was compressed, the other had tears in the material (not the metal). the new mounts also brought back improved shifter feel. improved shifter feel...really? hmmm this is def something I'm going to do then, I'll try to do it before I do the clutch/flywheel so I can beat the hell out of it later on ;D |
Yes, I noticed improved shifter feel, as well. Don't really know how much NVH was added, as I installed them while the car was down for building the turbo kit. Driver's side wasn't bad at all w/o an exhaust manifold in the way, but the passenger's side was a small bitch.
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any solid mounts out there? or are the ms the stiffest you can get?
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ouch...I really wouldn't want to run solid...at least not in a street car.
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i did the MS mounts, also the MS dif mounts, all in all it makes it much more stable feeling.
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The MS diff mounts are worth it for sure. They make a great combo.
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I replaced mine when I did the motor swap. They were both pretty much shot.... with 210K kms.... <G>
Definately worth it. Helped a lot with the power 2 -> 3 shift. It doesn't hit the gate like it did before. Although, that doesn't remove the "user error" factor though. <G> Dave, |
I have the ms diff mounts, and Im pretty certain my motor mounts are finished.
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Replaced my stock ones with MS mounts in August of '05 - The old ones were pretty worn out and broken.
It didn't take too long to replace them. Did it with the motor in the bay. No problems......:bigtu: |
Good to hear...thanks fellas, I'll see if I can get pics while I'm doing it and post up if anybody is interested.
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my MS mounts are going in tomorrow.....
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I would
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I would like to remove the cups (for weight reduction) when I change mine out. Anyone do that with theirs?
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ms mounts made a HUGE difference..... car feels really solid! I'd defenitely reccomend this mod!
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Credit card payement paid...ordering them tommorrow :D
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Originally Posted by rmcelwee
(Post 48813)
I would like to remove the cups (for weight reduction) when I change mine out. Anyone do that with theirs?
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spike rmcelwee is the lightweightmiata guy. He's removed far morethan just the washer bottle... anything and everything removable is off that car.
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yeah I thin kthe metal cups are important but the ac/ps is a good target for weight loss. also carpet and trunk guts all easy and fairly heavy.
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Originally Posted by spike
(Post 48975)
Why would you want to do that just to shave two pounds?those metal cups are there for a reason,if you need to get rid of some weight,a better and smarter alternative would be to just remove the windsheild washer bottle.
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Originally Posted by VRTSid
(Post 48993)
yeah I thin kthe metal cups are important but the ac/ps is a good target for weight loss. also carpet and trunk guts all easy and fairly heavy.
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Originally Posted by rmcelwee
(Post 49002)
All that stuff is long gone (around 400 pounds removed so far)
It's been awhile since I've been to your site, I'd forgot how much weight you've removed, that's insane. What are you at now? |
Under 1900 pounds. I don't weigh it very often so I am not sure of the exact amount.
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Thanks!, I'll bookmark it the IP
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wow...thats a lot of shit taken off...interesting.
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I've changed my stock motor mounts with the FM Motor mounts.
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Yeah, FM sells the same Mazdaspeed motor mounts that're 40% stiffer than stock.
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35% ;).
Just ordered mine from trackdog...74/pair |
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how about a compromise at 37.5%?
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Nope. 40% Take it or leave it.
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heh, you win, 40%
I just installed them last night, what a pain in the ass to do with ramps and a jack, took me about 4 hours, had to remove the exhaust manifold. The passenger side is not fun to get to, but WOW! these things make a world of difference. My drivers side mount was cracked down the bottom and the passanger side was pretty bad to. I test drove it last night and it feels SO much better than it did. The slugish feeling is gone from the driveline now and shuddering I thought might be comming from a dying clutch is gone too :). the shift from 1-2 at 7k rpms is a lot smoother now too, it just grabs, the transition from one gear to another is a bit different as well...but I like it It was worth the time and I think this might be one of the most noticable mods for our older miatas....+1 :) |
I was finally approved for my Mazdaspeed account. I should order them one of these days.
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I bought mine from trackdog racing, cheaper/faster than MS...even though I have an account.
google track dog racing |
Originally Posted by miatamania
(Post 51119)
heh, you win, 40%
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Originally Posted by airbrush1
(Post 48565)
my MS mounts are going in tomorrow.....
Miatamania (aka Moss) looks like the cheapest. $60pair plus shipping. I've ordered from them before and shipping costs are real. I'll be ordering these right meow! |
anyone make solid? that would be 100% stiffer :)
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but completely unstreetable...
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Originally Posted by samnavy
(Post 51165)
Do a writeup. Take pictures and notes.
Miatamania (aka Moss) looks like the cheapest. $60pair plus shipping. I've ordered from them before and shipping costs are real. I'll be ordering these right meow! I didn't take pictures, but I could write it up and get some digital pics later....it'll take a couple of days. |
Originally Posted by miatamania
(Post 51181)
but completely unstreetable...
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Well, mine were $72.85 w/shipping from miatamania. That's $12 for shipping from Cali. Those things weigh 2lbs according to our resident weight expert?
$13 for 2lbs Cali to VA. That sounds about right. Anybody pay less? |
Originally Posted by samnavy
(Post 51241)
Well, mine were $72.85 w/shipping from miatamania. That's $12 for shipping from Cali. Those things weigh 2lbs according to our resident weight expert?
$13 for 2lbs Cali to VA. That sounds about right. Anybody pay less? |
Originally Posted by samnavy
(Post 51241)
Well, mine were $72.85 w/shipping from miatamania. That's $12 for shipping from Cali. Those things weigh 2lbs according to our resident weight expert?
$13 for 2lbs Cali to VA. That sounds about right. Anybody pay less? $58.08 frm Mazda Speed for mine a year ago - Shipping and price combined :gay: |
Originally Posted by LOLA - 92
(Post 51247)
WOW!
$58.08 frm Mazda Speed for mine a year ago - Shipping and price combined :gay: Are you talking about mazdamotorsports.com? I backed out of there when they wanted to know my SS# just so I could buy something... not cool w/me. |
I forgot about the SS deal...even now those are like 60 bucks plus shipping...
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