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thenuge26 03-20-2013 10:04 AM

I recommend you just weld your wastegate shut, that way you won't pussy out.

shuiend 03-20-2013 10:08 AM


Originally Posted by fhdez87 (Post 991696)
hello guys, i changed al metals in my block, polished the head and changed all the seals also the valves, so the engine is completely rebuilt. How many Psi do you think it may hold??

With the rebuilt motor you can run 23.4568psi. If you accidentally run 24psi, even for a moment the welds on your intake manifold will come apart.

18psi 03-20-2013 10:10 AM

what if he reinforces the welds though? I'm guessing 24.69psi is ENTIRELY possible, though it hasn't been tested by Paul Walker

shuiend 03-20-2013 10:19 AM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 991768)
what if he reinforces the welds though? I'm guessing 24.69psi is ENTIRELY possible, though it hasn't been tested by Paul Walker

Well it will come down to if he uses 2 of the big bottles of NOS or not.

Mobius 03-20-2013 03:53 PM

Dual NOS bottles should only be used when compound charging, one before each compressor wheel. Bonus - when you're compound charging, you get four times the boost instead of twice the boost!

Joe Perez 03-20-2013 04:44 PM


Originally Posted by 18psi (Post 991768)
what if he reinforces the welds though?

He'll be fine, so long as he double-clutches. Granny-shifting is what blows welds.

18psi 03-20-2013 05:00 PM

most def

and make sure to scream MONIKAAAAAA

myrando 03-20-2013 05:04 PM

30psi on a GT1241...

Or

4psi on a gt4708.

fhdez87 03-22-2013 01:54 PM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 991736)
"How much boost can it handle" without further details is one of the dumbest questions ever. In order to be able to make any sort of estimation we would need to know all the details. You changed all the metals? What kind of rods? What sort of turbo/manifold/exhaust/etc? Engine management? Who is tuning it?

It is known that, on average, stock rods tend to fail somewhere around 250 wtq assuming good tune and such. if the boost comes on hard and soon it is more likely to break than boost onset softer and later.

Stock rods and stock pistons. I replaced all bearings, and the turbo is T25/T28 Turbocharger, stock manifold and Stainless Steel Catback Exhaust System.

thenuge26 03-22-2013 02:04 PM

You put new bearings in but kept the stock rods?

Banned for trolling.

fhdez87 03-22-2013 02:39 PM

i didnt replaced rods because my main point wasnt based on Turbo. My engine was suffering of low compression in 3 and 4, so i replaced piston rings and bearings (I have pictures of the complete work).

thenuge26 03-22-2013 02:48 PM

That sucks for you. Now start reading and let this 7-year old cancer-infested thread die already.

Turbonator 03-25-2013 11:29 AM

I just threw in some h-beam rods, im sure it will be good for 350hp, which is my final goal.

turbofan 03-26-2013 07:10 AM

Should be fine for a street car. For track use you'll need stronger oil pump and other stuff.

stevenmiata 03-26-2013 12:43 PM

isnt the stock 1.6 can handle around 250hp with stock internals??

It not right to ask how many PSi a engine can handle but how much stress it can handle

thenuge26 03-26-2013 12:46 PM

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Braineack 03-26-2013 12:46 PM

torque [and clyinder pressure] bends rods.

pinkbunnyballz 01-26-2016 01:44 AM

boost
 

Originally Posted by ak47bravo (Post 63766)
From what I have seen and read 12 psi is completely fine on a stock engine and really if you want anymore power you have to get forged pistons and rods. Can a stock engine handle like 15 psi? If it can how well can it handle it. If you run 8 or 12 psi usually then boost up to 15 sometimes would it hurt?


what about no tune. what boost pressure can i run with no tune till i get ecu ?

gooflophaze 01-26-2016 02:09 AM

First post. In a thread that was bumped in 2012 from 2006. 4 years later in 2016.


Must be a helluva hibernation chamber.

Savington 01-26-2016 03:00 AM


Originally Posted by pinkbunnyballz (Post 1302451)
what about no tune. what boost pressure can i run with no tune till i get ecu ?

None.


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